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triron

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Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:17 PM Nov 2018

Abramson on Corsi and Stone coming indictments:

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NOTE/ PROOF OF COLLUSION details in painstaking fashion every lie Stone has told about whether he had a backchannel to WikiLeaks and, if so, who it was; whether and how he stayed in touch with Trump after he was "fired" from the campaign; and other Russian contacts he lied about.
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(THREAD) The men below say Mueller is about to indict them. Both are suspected of a) collusive crimes, b) perjury. We have enough info to intelligently discuss their likely crimes; I do the necessary Trump-Russia deep dive here. It's wild stuff. I hope you'll read on and retweet.
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1/ Kremlin agent Joseph Mifsud told George Papadopoulos the Kremlin had stolen Clinton emails on April 25, 2016. According to testimony from Trump aide John Mashburn, Papadopoulos emailed this intelligence to Mashburn (and possibly others) sometime almost immediately thereafter.


2/ Within two weeks, a massive campaign to get Clinton's stolen emails from the Russians had kicked off—and it involved many high-ranking officials in the Trump campaign. From the NatSec team, Flynn, Papadopoulos, and Schmitz; from the campaign brass, Bannon, Conway, and Clovis.

3/ It's now known that the operation was considered so sensitive that second-level cut-outs—trusted individuals a layer removed from the campaign—were enlisted, including Peter W. Smith, Roger Stone, and, it's believed, Jerome Corsi. Stone stayed in touch with Trump *directly*.

4/ Of course, Don Jr. also attended a meeting with Manafort and Kushner believing he'd receive these materials directly from Kremlin agents—and Trump directly requested the release of such materials during a presser in July 2016. Trump's campaign was *obsessed* with "her emails."

5/ The Trump campaign was *so* obsessed with using its pro-Russia/anti-US sanctions policy to solicit stolen emails from Russia that—besides the 14 conspirators I already mentioned—even shadow NatSec adviser Erik Prince was working the Clinton email angle *96 hours pre-election*.

6/ Some of the same people involved in trying to get stolen materials from the Russians were involved in secret meetings with Russians in which foreign policy was negotiated; others were involved in literally *giving the Russians value*, for instance in changing the RNC platform.


7/ It appears Mashburn may have been involved in overseeing the pro-Russia RNC platform change; certainly, the National Security Advisory Committee—established/overseen by Clovis; advised by Flynn, Prince and Bannon; employing Papadopoulos and Schmitz—was directly involved in it.

8/ The simple logic: Trump had agreed to a sanctions agenda involving the unilateral dropping of sanctions on Russia in return for Russian bribes, so he knew Putin supported him; he believed the Kremlin had intel on Clinton—or could manufacture it—that would win him the election.

9/ As Trump's "Find her emails!" campaign—which sought out Russian hackers on the Dark Web and otherwise, as well as indirectly—secretly raged on in June/July, a concurrent Felix Sater/Michael Cohen campaign to seal a Trump Tower Moscow deal (the "Trump-Rozov" deal) was ongoing.

10/ In early June 2016, Sater told Cohen the Trump-Rozov deal—which had stalled in January 2016—could be negotiated and completed in July 2016 if Cohen would travel to Moscow for an event Sater had gotten him an invite to. Putin's right-hand man Peskov—*and Putin*—would be there.

11/ With a face-to-face meeting between Trump attorney Cohen and Putin himself in the offing—as that's what Sater was offering Trump—it's clear (a) Cohen told Trump of the offer and (b) Cohen had *every possible incentive* to travel to Moscow to meet directly with Vladimir Putin.

12/ But Cohen didn't go to Moscow—which until recently was INEXPLICABLE, given that he'd been angling to get close to Putin and Peskov (in order to close the secret Trump-Rozov business deal) for many, many months. But now we have a likely explanation—up to an almost certain one.

13/ The explanation comes in the form of Cohen's excuse for not going to Moscow—he told Sater he would be far too busy in the 10 days pre-RNC—and what *actually* happened in those 10 days, which is that Cohen...

...went on "vacation." In "Italy." Or so he told everyone he could.

14/ Cohen told people he was on the island of Capri with a friend—a member of Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band. The problem...

...is that that friend's wife says *they were never in Capri with Cohen*, despite being in Italy at the time. In fact, they *never saw Cohen there*.

15/ Moreover, Cohen—in traveling to Italy—entered an EU travel zone that allowed him to get to other European capitals, *including Prague*, without an additional stamp in his passport. Remember that he waved his passport about to Hannity saying it'd prove he never went to Prague.


16/ Remember, too, that Cohen allegedly having never gone to Prague was *the only alleged error Trump's allies ever identified in the Steele dossier*. And remember who else was in Italy: Joseph Mifsud, who worked at a university there and had met secretly with Papadopoulos there.
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17/ Mifsud, of course, was the Trump campaign's *contact* on the question of the Kremlin having stolen Clinton emails. So even if Cohen never left Italy (July 9 to 17) he *did* lie about where he was and had ready access to *the* Kremlin intermediary on the subject of the emails.

18/ We've every reason to think other members of Trump's NatSec team believed they had to go to Europe to get access to Russian agents: Page met a Russian agent in Hungary; Prince went to Hungary and refused to tell Congress about it; Schmitz went to Hungary without explanation.

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19/ And now we find that the very man who appears to have had advance knowledge of WikiLeaks' release of stolen Clinton documents, Jerome Corsi, not only shared that knowledge with Trump pal Roger Stone—who was in touch with Trump—but also may have been in Italy while Cohen was.

20/ Corsi said today that Mueller asked him *many* questions about an "anniversary" trip he took to Italy in 2016, which may well have coincided with Cohen's "vacation" there and Joseph Mifsud's continued "employment" at a university there. Italy is clearly a key collusion spot.

PS/ My book PROOF OF COLLUSION will be released tomorrow, and this level of detail on the Trump campaign's collusion—in fact much greater detail than this, and sourced—can be found on every one of the book's 450 pages. You can find the book on Amazon here:

NOTE/ PROOF OF COLLUSION details in painstaking fashion every lie Stone has told about whether he had a backchannel to WikiLeaks and, if so, who it was; whether and how he stayed in touch with Trump after he was "fired" from the campaign; and other Russian contacts he lied about.

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Abramson on Corsi and Stone coming indictments: (Original Post) triron Nov 2018 OP
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I read Abramson every day. His legal and logical analysis is razor sharp. I hope his optimism wiggs Nov 2018 #2
Great stuff. 2019 will be an exciting year empedocles Nov 2018 #3
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2. I read Abramson every day. His legal and logical analysis is razor sharp. I hope his optimism
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:45 PM
Nov 2018

that legal processes, justice, and outing of secret information will win the day is not misplaced.

So much of his writing makes sense and the puzzle pieces fit together. Biggest legal/political scandal in history. Deep and broad conspiracy. Historic infamy and treachery and stupidity. So, so much that should enter the legal system and public discourse for digestion and processing. But will it?

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