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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSatan ice skates to work, again. Soledad O'Brien comes back the next day to FACT CHECK Sununu's
case of verbal dysentery.
I'm impressed! A JOURNALIST actually doing her JOB and INVESTIGATING FACTS, rather than just letting "both sides" blather, shrug, and say "I guess the truth lies somewhere in between."
But you know what I find really sad? The fact that she's probably only doing this because Sununu insulted her PERSONALLY. If he'd just continued to bloviate about Obama 'gutting $700 billion from Medicare' without accusing her of being a Democratic stooge when she challenged him on it, I don't think we'd have gotten this little fact-check sequel!
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/scarce/soledad-obrien-fact-checks-john-sununu
cali
(114,904 posts)Yes, the MSM sucks, but there are individual reporters and commentators who generally do a a decent job. Acting shocked every time one does, has become a lame art form.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)But it sure does make it sweeter - she's such a cute lil' thing, and he looks like a complete bully and a raging asshole. And he's wrong, too boot.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)I don't remember reporters doing this kind of thing AT ALL between 1996 and 2006. And, despite efforts by groups like Media Matters, they only started doing their job when they began being mocked for not doing it.
byeya
(2,842 posts)keeps them aware that they are ignoring the ethics they were taught in journalism school.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)The reality is that Jon Stewart did more to bring vigilance back to political journalism than Media Matters ever did. Mockery is a powerful tool.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I don't..
We'll have to leave it there..
Joe Bacon
(5,165 posts)But we can still all rest assured that Wolf Blitzer, Candy Crowley and especially Little Luke Russert will continue to kiss Republican ass.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Now you've gone and done it! I'll be on a Luke Russert rant for the rest of the morning! Boy, I hope you're satisfied...
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)his rudeness and stubbornness amusing. Never really liked her - but starting to take a second look
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)...that are in the 5%...most of them are mentally lazy and let shit go by with frequency
Maineman
(854 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)on national tv. She can come back at him for any reason she wants, afaic.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Then or now. You gotta' love her for doing her job.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Sununu said "Soledad, stop this", that really annoyed her. Nothing paternalistic about trying to control and dictate her line of questioning.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I watched the video of the interview and the further it went the madder she got. I've always liked her but I quit watching cnn a few years ago so I don't get to see here often. I think she is a beautiful person not just because of being pleasant to look at but because of what is in her heart. She obviously loves our country as much as most of us here do. She's also intelligent enough that bullshitters don't get a pass from her.
Go Soledad, some of us out here love you for what you do not just because of your outer beauty
txwhitedove
(3,933 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)I remember a few weeks ago the controversy over whether Romney was responsible for employee lay-offs in companies acquired by Bain Capital. Sununu swore up and down on shows like Andrea Mitchell's in his typical arrogant, bullying style that Romney had nothing to do with Bain whatsoever from 1999 onward when most of the firings occurred because he was running the Olympics. Sununu openly laughed at and mocked Andrea Mitchell on her own show when she tried to challenge his statement. A few days later when mountains of evidence came out tying Romney to Bain up to 2003, Sununu stopped appearing on shows for awhile. Sununu can't help insulting interviewers on whose shows he appears and making an assclown and an underwear skidmark of himself, it seems.
tonybgood
(218 posts)Stop having John Sununu on your program!!! If the Romney camp can't come up with a spokesperson who can't answer questions with facts and must then insult the host, stop inviting them!!!
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)The facts are not on their side, and neither are the Electoral College numbers, so they have no choice but to bloviate, obfuscate, distort, and lie. Thus, there ARE no Romney spoxs that will answer questions with facts. Although, you're right, they can and probably will find one that won't insult the host if they expect the campaign to survive.
Sununu was working right on message with his lies and distortions about Obama and Medicare. The only thing he did wrong was to insult her integrity, personally, which (IMHO) sent her on the fact checking mission the next day.
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)If you know they are going to lie to you, patronize you, imply you are unAmerican, or call you some sort of name because you don't drink the teabagger Kool Aid, for christ's sake stop having them on and tell why!
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)He's not an "official spokesman" for the Romney Campaign. (They specifically label him a 'Romney surrogate.') Which means that he can sling this kind of mud, and if it damages Obama...fine. If he goes too far, on the other hand, Romney can claim he doesn't even know the guy.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)fact. The word 'surrogate' means he is a stand in for the actual candidate. The definition of 'surrogate' is 'one that serves as a substitute'. Surrogate is an extremely specific term, it is not the same as simply being there as another Republican he was there as a substitute for Romney and as you say, labeled exactly that way.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Besides, who in the Romney camp has any acquaintance with facts? Everybody knows facts and reality have an unfair liberal bias.
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Mponti
(163 posts)ananda
(28,885 posts)Standing up to Reeps with facts! Imagine.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)as he showed once again. No wonder people talk about him behind his back.
Thank you Soledad. Well done.
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)I don't watch CNN and won't watch CNN as long as they keep that blow-hard Blitzer on the air.
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)Speak fact and then laugh at their bluster. They always end up looking like the assholes they are.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . being "interviewed" by cigar/golf buddy/fellow right wing asshole Joe Kernen. Really, it's just an uninterrupted promo of Romney's economic "plan"; which is, of course, more viewer-friendly Trickle Down that's worked SOOOOO well these past 31 years. They're just yukking it up, DunNehNeh's all happy as a pig in shit now that he's got a friendly face who won't question him.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Who'd pimp for an obvious loser like R-Money?
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Either that or she's trying to ensure her show gets on CNN International... the more sane version of CNN. Add on edit: maybe get rid of one of those 3 showings of Piers Morgan Tonight.
Iggy
(1,418 posts)because reporters generally do not do what Ms O'Brien is doing-- taking on the one percenter
propagandists.
this is why I stopped watching the tallking Bobblehead shows, oh, 12 years ago. these guys are
useless. they trade "access" to certain politicians by kissing their phat arses, lobbiing them softball
questions, and _not_ challenging their responses.
NPR is guilty of this too,
I doubt Ms O'Brien will get access to the lying GOP pols after this.. and I can more or less guarantee you
CNN management phones have been jangling with calls from GOP powers that be.
F them.
if CNN want to get their cred back, they should continue to let Ms O'Brien do what she is doing.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)On another note, jeez, Sununu grates. Loud, mean and ugly. Dunno why the GOP lets him go on TV. He can't be winning many hearts or minds.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Thank you for calling TRUTH to power...holy cow, there certainly seem to be some who think they can dictate how you might respond to any given scenario.
They are a very SAD, PATHETIC lot indeed. In fact, it's become a lame art form.
Keep up the good work. I am rooting for you