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Sinema remains in the lead. (Original Post) lapucelle Nov 2018 OP
Awesome! MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #1
Hold on- this is NOT 100% SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #28
But the votes left are in Maricopa County True_Blue Nov 2018 #43
Right SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #51
Yes! I heard that on tv! Things are looking good...but if it's too close, you're talking recount.nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #54
Uncounted votes left in Maricopa, Pima and a red county. Blue_true Nov 2018 #52
Wait! Wait! UncleTomsEvilBrother Nov 2018 #2
Well Done brettdale Nov 2018 #3
Omg OMG!!!!!!! Leghorn21 Nov 2018 #4
Wow.. late inning rally!! honest.abe Nov 2018 #5
Is it official now? And chance of recount? Roland99 Nov 2018 #6
Vote counting isn't over. Blue_true Nov 2018 #53
Thank you Arizona. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #7
This is erroneous. SaschaHM Nov 2018 #8
Thank you, HM - the dadgum link says "100%", so - ?!? BUT, things are lookin good/better, Leghorn21 Nov 2018 #31
Maricopa is a Dem stronghold. If she is ahead now, she wins. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #41
Maricopa went for Flake & McCain for Senate and McCain, Romney, and Trump. SaschaHM Nov 2018 #47
Sinema won the county by 1% on Election Day. Blue_true Nov 2018 #57
I think things look good for Sinema, but Dems have a reason to be bullish. SaschaHM Nov 2018 #61
thanks for the on-the-ground info! nt spooky3 Nov 2018 #71
Np, I'm not on-the-ground, but I've been following on-the-ground sources on twitter since early SaschaHM Nov 2018 #72
thanks! nt spooky3 Nov 2018 #77
Investigations have shown that late votes, mailins or handins. Blue_true Nov 2018 #74
It is a different time...heard there are lots of votes for her there. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #76
She made up 16,000 votes in one day, then added like 18,000 advantage. Blue_true Nov 2018 #56
She's leading in Maricopa, has been leading in Maricopa, and there's no reason to believe she'll LincolnRossiter Nov 2018 #65
There are 350k votes left in Maricopa. SaschaHM Nov 2018 #66
I'm sure it'll be close, too, Sascha. I just wanted to point out that GOP party ID advantage... LincolnRossiter Nov 2018 #70
Hows District 10 politics going? marble falls Nov 2018 #79
Thanks lapucelle! This is like Christmas! She DID IT! Bfd Nov 2018 #9
GA enid602 Nov 2018 #46
Yes & Kemp resigned thinking he had it won. BUT more ballots are still being counted.. Bfd Nov 2018 #49
FL is giving a huge effort to this, amazingly. lark Nov 2018 #69
Wow. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #10
Aren't you glad you stayed up? nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #59
Fuck yes! Quixote1818 Nov 2018 #11
WOWZER!!! MoonRiver Nov 2018 #12
K&R... spanone Nov 2018 #13
Whoo Hoo! Downtown Hound Nov 2018 #14
Praise to Ceiling Cat shenmue Nov 2018 #15
lol Cha Nov 2018 #18
OMG, lapucelle!!!!!!! Cha Nov 2018 #16
Wow - talk about an unexpected surprise - a very pleasant surprise rurallib Nov 2018 #17
is this McCain's seat? demtenjeep Nov 2018 #19
Flake's GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #21
Flake. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2018 #22
No - Mccains seat was handed over to KYL by Ducey shitbag.... asiliveandbreathe Nov 2018 #25
Hold it...I am in Maricopa County AZ...the vote count has NOT been completed.... asiliveandbreathe Nov 2018 #20
Isn't Sinema leading in Maricopa County? Mr.Bill Nov 2018 #26
Mr. Bill...340,000 votes still to be counted....Maricopa..and that doesn't include Pima.. asiliveandbreathe Nov 2018 #34
So tonight's update does not include the 80k from Pima? Amishman Nov 2018 #42
I'll tell ya, hard to find anything on Pima county at this time..this from 2hrs ago - asiliveandbreathe Nov 2018 #50
Pima went massively for Sinema on Election Day. Blue_true Nov 2018 #58
Sinema is leading in Maricopa. John Fante Nov 2018 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Nov 2018 #23
Please change your thread title. It is not accurate. BlueintheSTL Nov 2018 #24
I changed it. lapucelle Nov 2018 #32
Thanks. BlueintheSTL Nov 2018 #48
MSNBC said Sinema is now in the lead with GWC58 Nov 2018 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Nov 2018 #27
yessssssssssssssss! samnsara Nov 2018 #29
Kornacki is reporting many votes are yet to be counted spooky3 Nov 2018 #30
There are...I changed my headline. lapucelle Nov 2018 #36
Thanks. We're all hoping that Sinema will spooky3 Nov 2018 #44
Yes, thanks for noting this. elleng Nov 2018 #37
Great news! If it holds that will make up for one of the seats we lost. Nelson is a possibility, too George II Nov 2018 #35
Winning two seats in states Gump carried would be sweeeeet. John Fante Nov 2018 #39
Az Senator, yea. Way to go. In red Az. The best. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #40
Living in Phoenix I can say this will be a great victory. kairos12 Nov 2018 #45
I think she has it, but I wouldn't start celebrating unless tomorrow's numbers improve further sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #55
Yes, but folks MUST GET... LovingA2andMI Nov 2018 #60
Her lead is now 9,200! George II Nov 2018 #62
I saw this coming!! Hopefully we have similar success in Florida! LincolnRossiter Nov 2018 #63
Hope you don't mind me chiming in repeatedly, but in the last few minutes.... George II Nov 2018 #64
OMG, if we could pick up Sinema, Nelson & Abrams, how sweet that will be! lark Nov 2018 #67
Sinema up 10,000!! Roland99 Nov 2018 #68
and go a long way to providing the checks-and-balances that Trump STILL doesn't understand spooky3 Nov 2018 #78
Wait wait, why can't we talk about the caravan suegeo Nov 2018 #73
Can't wait for her to be my Senator Az_lefty Nov 2018 #75

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
43. But the votes left are in Maricopa County
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:41 PM
Nov 2018

Which favors Sinema, so her lead should only increase from here on, which is why the Republicans were trying to stop the election.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
52. Uncounted votes left in Maricopa, Pima and a red county.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:11 PM
Nov 2018

Sinema was Maricopa by almost 1% and Pima by something like 4-6%. She lost the red county, I think Pina, but it has far fewer votes that the other two, even fewer uncounted than Pima alone.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
53. Vote counting isn't over.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:15 PM
Nov 2018

My guess is when it is, Sinema will be ahead beyond the recount limit. She has votes in two of Arizona's largest counties yet to be counted, one favored her by 1%, the other by around 5%.

Plus, all year, late mailins have heavily favored the democrat, regardless of the county.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
8. This is erroneous.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:01 PM
Nov 2018

I want her to win, but there are still 350k votes that need to counted in Maricopa. What we have today is the first batch of those Eday deliverys/hand-ins. Please update your post so folks won't get the wrong message. This will be going on until next week.

Maricopa's next release will be tomorrow at 8pm est.

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
31. Thank you, HM - the dadgum link says "100%", so - ?!? BUT, things are lookin good/better,
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:23 PM
Nov 2018

at any rate!!!

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
47. Maricopa went for Flake & McCain for Senate and McCain, Romney, and Trump.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:47 PM
Nov 2018

It may be changing demographically, but this is the first election in 10 years that a Democrat is leading in the county. Calling it a Dem stronghold is a bit premature and a stretch. Sinema's ahead now, which portends well for her since Dems haven't won this county in 10 years, but there is still a Republican registration advantage and they were also ahead a bit on EVs. Right now we need to have our fingers crossed that the remaining EVs have the same margin, which would mean that Sinema is winning crossovers and indies, and not that there is some sort of last minute McSally surge.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
57. Sinema won the county by 1% on Election Day.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:25 PM
Nov 2018

All year, late mailins have favored the democrat. Look like the late votes have broken massively for Sinema all day, my guess is that does not change the rest of the way.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
61. I think things look good for Sinema, but Dems have a reason to be bullish.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:32 PM
Nov 2018

She won Eday by 1%, that's a combination of Election day votes and mail in ballots. We don't have a breakdown showing who won w/ early votes and who won with just election day votes.

The 350k ballots being counted now are not only late mail-ins (150k), but also election day hand-ins. For Team Sinema and everyone watching this race, the worry comes with the 200k or so that were handed in on Election day. The worry is that these may be slightly more republican since they are essentially election day votes being mail votes handed in at polling places.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
72. Np, I'm not on-the-ground, but I've been following on-the-ground sources on twitter since early
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:32 PM
Nov 2018

voting started.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
74. Investigations have shown that late votes, mailins or handins.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:46 PM
Nov 2018

Are more likely to favor the democratic candidate.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
76. It is a different time...heard there are lots of votes for her there.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:56 PM
Nov 2018

Given that she has moved ahead that may be true...hope so.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
56. She made up 16,000 votes in one day, then added like 18,000 advantage.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:21 PM
Nov 2018

Looks like the late votes are breaking heavily for Sinema, as I have been saying they would for the last day.

Even with 300,000 in Maricopa county, I doubt McSally catches her. BTW, on E-Day, Sinema won Maricopa County by around 1%. Even if late votes broke like Election Day, Sinema wins. My guess, the remaining late votes break even more heavily for Sinema, because democrats are notorious for waiting until the last minute to mailin their completed ballots.

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
65. She's leading in Maricopa, has been leading in Maricopa, and there's no reason to believe she'll
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:47 PM
Nov 2018

necessarily lose that lead. Trump only won the county by 3.5%. Have you seen some of the trends of districts, counties, and states throughout the special elections and midterms? Jurisdictions that were Republican +22 have gone Dem. This one was R +3. NYT actually had a graphic showing the shift left across the country--not just in seats Dems picked up, but even in those that we lost close (again, tons of R +10, 15, 20, 25 that end up going just R +1, 2, and 3).

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
66. There are 350k votes left in Maricopa.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:00 PM
Nov 2018

150k are late mail-ins. Good for Sinema.
200k are election day hand-ins. Could be good for McSally or Sinema. We really don't know. A 1% Eday+Mail in lead does not tell us who was winning in the EV (typically Dems) or who was winning on the Eday(typically Reps) nor the margins. That's the issue. Things feel good for Sinema, but AZDems have a reason to be bullish. No one is calling this race, outside of DU, because it really depends on the margins in a county with a Republican registration advantage. Sinema is doing phenomenal and having one of the best Dem showings in years. This question is going to be whether it is enough to counter the structural disadvantages. I think it will be, but I still think the race might be close when all the ballots are counted.

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
70. I'm sure it'll be close, too, Sascha. I just wanted to point out that GOP party ID advantage...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:26 PM
Nov 2018

and a history of winning elections in affluent white municipalities and suburbs (like those surrounding Phoenix) hasn't been of much use to the GOP this cycle or the last. Trump only won Maricopa by 3.5%. With what we've seen in the special elections and the midterms, that should be of little comfort to the GOP. The shift leftward has be massive. We're talking swings of 10, 15, and 20+%. Here lead is only growing as more votes from MC come in.

I'm not an expert on Arizona politics, so forgive me if I seem strident. But I think we have cause for optimism. I felt that way the moment I heard the GOP was planning lawsuits to block or impede vote counts. They know this isn't stacking up well for them.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
9. Thanks lapucelle! This is like Christmas! She DID IT!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:01 PM
Nov 2018

She has got to be ecstatic!!


Now On to Florida!

C'mon Florida

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
49. Yes & Kemp resigned thinking he had it won. BUT more ballots are still being counted..
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:57 PM
Nov 2018

Abrams could pull this off yet!
I say Recount Tx too for BETO!! Why not.

lark

(23,156 posts)
69. FL is giving a huge effort to this, amazingly.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:25 PM
Nov 2018

For once we are fighting back and I for one couldn't be more proud of all the hard work being done. My back hurts from sitting & standing on concrete so much today while we were learning complicated scripts to cure provisional issues, training other volunteers, then making calls. I'm tired but content. I have done everything I could. WE will know the final results soon I hope.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
25. No - Mccains seat was handed over to KYL by Ducey shitbag....
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:17 PM
Nov 2018

This is the seat Flacko is giving up....because he thinks he has a chance at the prez...which, he can run for - but he has as much chance at that as arpaio -

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
20. Hold it...I am in Maricopa County AZ...the vote count has NOT been completed....
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:13 PM
Nov 2018

Yes, I voted for Sinema..and want nothing more than for her to win..so, hold on!!!!!

Mr.Bill

(24,325 posts)
26. Isn't Sinema leading in Maricopa County?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:17 PM
Nov 2018

I mean can we reasonably expect her to hold the lead if that's the only county where votes are yet to be counted?

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
34. Mr. Bill...340,000 votes still to be counted....Maricopa..and that doesn't include Pima..
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:25 PM
Nov 2018
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/07/did-martha-mcsally-kyrsten-sinema-win-senate-arizona-ballots-still-count/1923935002/

I am one of those mail in ballot voters and they sure as hell better count it....

Every day will be an update..I love the fact that she has built up a significant lead...

Be well Mr Bill -

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
42. So tonight's update does not include the 80k from Pima?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:38 PM
Nov 2018

If so, any idea when the Pima numbers will come out?

Pima should push this beyond any recount or doubt if they are not already in

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
58. Pima went massively for Sinema on Election Day.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:29 PM
Nov 2018

She won Maricopa County by 1% on Election Day. My guess? Sinema increases her advantage as more votes are counted.

Response to lapucelle (Original post)

 

BlueintheSTL

(135 posts)
24. Please change your thread title. It is not accurate.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:15 PM
Nov 2018

There are still ~500,000 votes to be counted. CNN has it at 81%, 100% is NOT CORRECT. I think Sinema will win but this is far from over.

Response to lapucelle (Original post)

lapucelle

(18,328 posts)
36. There are...I changed my headline.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:26 PM
Nov 2018

I based it on the information on the website of the SOS of Arizona which I clearly misunderstood.

https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/4/0

elleng

(131,119 posts)
37. Yes, thanks for noting this.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:26 PM
Nov 2018

If I recall properly, it's the 'late' votes, that is, live/voting day votes not yet reflected, and will take a while longer.

sweetloukillbot

(11,069 posts)
55. I think she has it, but I wouldn't start celebrating unless tomorrow's numbers improve further
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:19 PM
Nov 2018

But the Republicans are suing to disqualify votes, and McSally noticeably didn't declare victory on Tuesday. I think they know how this is going to end up.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
60. Yes, but folks MUST GET...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:32 PM
Nov 2018

If Kyrsten pulls out her race, she is a Centrist Democrat in a 50/50 State called Arizona. Remember this when at times she has to vote against the norm on certain issues to ensure her RE-ELECTION.

Thanks, in advance.

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
63. I saw this coming!! Hopefully we have similar success in Florida!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:41 PM
Nov 2018

Sinema is going to pull this out in the end. Maybe Scott and Gillum can, too.

George II

(67,782 posts)
64. Hope you don't mind me chiming in repeatedly, but in the last few minutes....
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:44 PM
Nov 2018

....the lead has gone UP again:

A little earlier:

931,583
922,724

+8,859

Now (9:45 Eastern):

932,870
923,260

+9,610

lark

(23,156 posts)
67. OMG, if we could pick up Sinema, Nelson & Abrams, how sweet that will be!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:17 PM
Nov 2018

of course, this is wishful thinking, but it is possible. Sinema is looking really good and the most solid bet for great blue news, but Nelson has cut the lead in half. Brian Kemp is no longer Sec of State and there's lots of work remaining still due to the courts orders about notifying and giving folks x # of days to verify their signatures. That one looks to be tied up for awhile.

I was happy picking up 31 seats (so far) in the House, but to add these 3 important wins would be such a delectable icing for that cake. It would put Dems in such a better position for the census, reapportionment, and 2020.

spooky3

(34,480 posts)
78. and go a long way to providing the checks-and-balances that Trump STILL doesn't understand
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:14 AM
Nov 2018

are going to be applied.

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