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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:55 AM Nov 2018

McCaskill Blames Fox News for Her Defeat


November 8, 2018 at 10:16 am EST By Taegan Goddard 21 Comments

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) told the New York Times that the impact of Fox News on voters in her state led to her reelection defeat.

Said McCaskill: “It’s time we all quit dancing around what is now a state-owned news channel.”

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https://politicalwire.com/2018/11/08/mccaskill-blames-fox-news-for-her-defeat/
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McCaskill Blames Fox News for Her Defeat (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
Go Claire ! DURHAM D Nov 2018 #1
It's only "state owned" when a Republican is in charge. vi5 Nov 2018 #2
So it's a party mouthpiece wellst0nev0ter Nov 2018 #35
The three democratic senators who lost... femmocrat Nov 2018 #3
While I agree to a point Sherman A1 Nov 2018 #5
This! world wide wally Nov 2018 #6
I'm in Missouri and Claire McCaskill was MY Senator... KCDebbie Nov 2018 #7
+1, what was up with the "I support Trump" on the caravan bullshit !?!?! I was floored uponit7771 Nov 2018 #10
She was channeling Joe Manchin cause it worked KCDebbie Nov 2018 #12
Hopefully these guys will learn to keep it real in the future, conservative light sucks uponit7771 Nov 2018 #15
Yeah..Sometimes one actually needs Principles whathehell Nov 2018 #27
That has always been my impression of her and I'm glad to hear your opinion as a "local." Vinca Nov 2018 #17
Thanks, KCDebbie. femmocrat Nov 2018 #19
McCaskill had issues with estrangement from KCDebbie Nov 2018 #21
I remember earlier this year some DUers dismissing AA Missouri Dems who EffieBlack Nov 2018 #26
But by ignoring voters of color, McCaskill failed KCDebbie Nov 2018 #40
If anything, they lost because they were too blue. SaschaHM Nov 2018 #8
McCaskill lost because she wasn't blue enough! KCDebbie Nov 2018 #14
she could have emphasized her positions against right to work or minimum wage increase pstokely Nov 2018 #22
they might have spent too much time in the red rural areas chasing tRump lovers pstokely Nov 2018 #30
a liberal is not winning in ND qazplm135 Nov 2018 #13
Same thing in Indiana tavernier Nov 2018 #20
Republicans will almost always choose the genuine article over a Dem trying to win them over. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #24
Worked for Manchin. LisaL Nov 2018 #28
Manchin won in WV.. it depends on the state. Cha Nov 2018 #31
Manchin is almost a Republican. LisaL Nov 2018 #32
He still counts when it comes to Cha Nov 2018 #33
What about Joe Manchin? oberliner Nov 2018 #34
I don't think there's any valid argument against that fact Johonny Nov 2018 #4
+1, Benedict Donald wouldn't be in the 40s without FAUX News uponit7771 Nov 2018 #9
Fox would be proud Tiggeroshii Nov 2018 #11
She's probably not wrong Bettie Nov 2018 #16
Wonder if the Russians also had a hand in it. triron Nov 2018 #18
Missouri exit poll didn't look nearly as bad as I expected Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #23
the ballot initiatives might brought some progressive voters who skipped her on the ballot pstokely Nov 2018 #29
The Democratic Party has to find a way to neutralize FOX UCmeNdc Nov 2018 #25
Maybe people remembered Neil Gorsuch In It to Win It Nov 2018 #36
Fix News was created by Murdoch and Ailes to elect Republicans. Funtatlaguy Nov 2018 #37
Not "state-owned" nir "news channel. It's a one-party messaging outfit... JHB Nov 2018 #38
McCaskill went full Republican when she thought it would suit her... Stellar Nov 2018 #39
She said what she had to say to have a chance in a state full of fox news rednecks... jcgoldie Nov 2018 #41
OK n/t Stellar Nov 2018 #42
 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
2. It's only "state owned" when a Republican is in charge.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:57 AM
Nov 2018

When a Democrat is in charge then they become the voice of the resistance.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
3. The three democratic senators who lost...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:59 AM
Nov 2018

were all “moderates” or conservadems in red states. I don’t know exactly what that means, but maybe trying to play it both ways is no longer a winning strategy.
Embrace your inner blueness!!

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
5. While I agree to a point
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:13 PM
Nov 2018

One cannot change the population of the states we are discussing. I wish that Claire was more progressive, but she was elected to represent the state population not to go out and create a new paradigm.

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
7. I'm in Missouri and Claire McCaskill was MY Senator...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:26 PM
Nov 2018

She spent her 12 years as Senator asking Missouri republicans to "like" her and vote for her while being as careful as possible not to say anything that could piss off republicans in Missouri. Notable exception was the Kavanaugh vote!

Meanwhile, she put her Democratic base to sleep!

She won her first term on the back of Rush Limbaugh mocking Michael J Fox's Parkinson's disease symptoms.

And if it wasn't for the fact that she ran against that legitimate rape imbecile in 2012, she would have been a 1-term Senator!

Good-bye, Claire! I hope we can find a real Democrat to run against Roy Blunt in 2 years and another real Democrat to run against Hawley in 6 years!

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
12. She was channeling Joe Manchin cause it worked
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:21 PM
Nov 2018

For him! All that did was alienate the Dems here in Missouri...

She also put out an ad calling Protesters that heckle repub Senators and Congressmen "Crazy Democrats!"

I and my younger daughter held our noses and voted for McCaskill. My older REFUSED to vote for Claire, but she didn't vote for any republicans either so there's that!

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
19. Thanks, KCDebbie.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:18 PM
Nov 2018

I heard some TV pundit say that Missouri African-Americans were still angry with her about Ferguson. Was this a factor? Do you think in the future, a candidate with more appeal to black voters would be more successful? Or would the republican/conservative vote still outweigh that demographic?

Just your opinion.... you don’t have to supply any numbers. I just found your perspective very interesting. I had forgotten about those earlier races. I only remembered that she barely won in the past.

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
21. McCaskill had issues with estrangement from
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:25 PM
Nov 2018

Missouri Democrats long before Ferguson! As I said, she only won in 2012 because she ran against the openly stupid legitimate rape guy...

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
26. I remember earlier this year some DUers dismissing AA Missouri Dems who
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:07 AM
Nov 2018

were furious that McGaskill ignored and insulted them. I was told tgey needed to understand she was just doing what she had to do to keep the seat and to stop pressuring her.

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
40. But by ignoring voters of color, McCaskill failed
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:19 AM
Nov 2018

To energize her base! She traded potential frenzied support by Democrats to begging for republicans to "like" her and vote for her and not be mad at her.

Her strategy was pathetic really and as I said before, we're it not for Limbaugh mocking Parkinson's disease symptoms in '06 and running against the legitimate rape in '12, she'd never have been elected...

I wish her well in her future endeavors, tho! I just hope that city dwellers in Missouri can get a Senate representative who is ready to move forward into the 21st Century...

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
8. If anything, they lost because they were too blue.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:29 PM
Nov 2018

All 3 ran up margins in blue areas in their states, but were walloped by surges in red rural areas.

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
14. McCaskill lost because she wasn't blue enough!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:23 PM
Nov 2018

Oh, well, maybe we can find a progressive Democrat to run against Blunt in 4 years and against Hawley in 6...

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
22. she could have emphasized her positions against right to work or minimum wage increase
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:10 AM
Nov 2018

never heard of mention those issues outside of the debates, the dems in statewide positions in MO have always alienated progressives, she also might have spent too much time in outside MO chasing tRump fans and not enough in the urban areas during the campaign

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
30. they might have spent too much time in the red rural areas chasing tRump lovers
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:49 AM
Nov 2018

and not enough time in the blue urban and inner suburban areas reaching the base assuming they had those areas in the bag

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
13. a liberal is not winning in ND
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:23 PM
Nov 2018

a liberal is not winning in Missouri. I've lived in several places in Missouri. It's Alabama with two Midwestern cities at either end.

A liberal isn't winning Indiana anymore. Demographics have changed since 2008, and quite frankly Obama's win there was a fluke.

We ran a liberal in Florida for Gov. He got almost the exact same voting numbers as the moderate we ran for the Senate, so there's a direct one to one comparison that sometimes it has nothing to do with whether you are a moderate or a "conservadem" or a liberal in some states. Just being a democrat is a bridge too far for some places.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
20. Same thing in Indiana
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:24 PM
Nov 2018

The Dem Senator bragged about voting with Rump on many issues. Made me gag every time I heard it. I spent the last three months in Indiana so I heard it every day! I was more than happy to come back to the Keys and vote in my own precinct!

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
24. Republicans will almost always choose the genuine article over a Dem trying to win them over.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:24 AM
Nov 2018

It's better to just focus on the metro areas and turn out the base.

Cha

(297,232 posts)
31. Manchin won in WV.. it depends on the state.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 06:26 AM
Nov 2018

Bill Nelson is an incumbent and he's good.. and still in it the last I read.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
4. I don't think there's any valid argument against that fact
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:12 PM
Nov 2018

FOX news is propaganda aimed at rural white voters to get them to vote GOP. It clearly has worked and it clearly is leading to terrible consequences for America. It certainly isn't a news organization.

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
16. She's probably not wrong
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:05 PM
Nov 2018

I wouldn't say it was the only factor, but it rates among them.

Frankly, Fox is a cancer eating at the brains of people.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
23. Missouri exit poll didn't look nearly as bad as I expected
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:50 AM
Nov 2018

Conservative liberal split of 39-23, when I would have guessed more like 41-21.

That state is not nearly as far gone as Tennessee, for example.

Heavy white percentage of 84% and not much of a gender gap means we need the ideal candidate, someone who can appeal to those reluctant white females and pick off just enough white males.

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
29. the ballot initiatives might brought some progressive voters who skipped her on the ballot
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:47 AM
Nov 2018

they just voted on the initiatives and left the rest the ballot blank

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
25. The Democratic Party has to find a way to neutralize FOX
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:41 AM
Nov 2018

FOX News propaganda destroys Democratic candidates popularity and establishes a negative image in its place.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
38. Not "state-owned" nir "news channel. It's a one-party messaging outfit...
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:36 AM
Nov 2018

..., a house organ, and it'll also attack party members that don't toe the party line.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
41. She said what she had to say to have a chance in a state full of fox news rednecks...
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:22 AM
Nov 2018

... but unlike Manchin when the chips were down with Kavanaugh she did not vote like a republican.

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