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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 05:56 PM Aug 2012

Group claiming to be made up of ex-OPSEC personnel attacks Obama for claiming to have killed OBL

A political group, "registered as a 501c4 corporation -- or a social welfare group" has launched an attack directed at the President saying: "You did not kill Osama Bin Laden, America did,".

the group claims to be without a political slant but members of the group have run for office as republicans or are associated with the Tea Party. Ben Smith, identified as an ex-Navy Seal, who says in the film: "you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did." .. is also known for his "activist work with the Tea Party Express and Move America Forward".


Group says to President Obama: "You didn't kill Obama, America did."



"You did not kill Osama Bin Laden, America did," Ben Smith -- identified as a Navy SEAL -- says in the video, "The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not."

Wednesday on "CBS This Morning, senior CBS News correspondent and former Deputy Director of National Intelligence John Miller discussed what he called the "very carefully crafted 22-minute documentary style video." Miller called the video "a mixture of some undeniable facts threaded through some conjecture, some speculation, and some propaganda" and added "it's got some information and it's got some spin." Miller stated that the group claims to be non-partisan and unpolitical and is registered as a 501c4 corporation -- or a social welfare group -- out of Delaware. The group launched their campaign with $1 million, and guarantees donor anonymity in soliciting donations.

According to Miller, the members of OPSEC group claim to be national security personnel and their spokesman, Chad Kolton, was formerly the spokesman for the office of National Intelligence during the George W. Bush administration.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/opsec-special-forces_n_1777538.html
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Leaders of the group, the Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund Inc, say it is nonpartisan and unconnected to any political party or presidential campaign. It is registered as a so-called social welfare group, which means its primary purpose is to further the common good and its political activities should be secondary.


The president of Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund Inc, Scott Taylor, is a former Navy SEAL who in 2010 ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for a congressional seat in Virginia.

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Following the film's release, OPSEC's spokesmen said, the group expects to produce TV spots on the anti-leak theme that will air in a number of states, including Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Colorado, North Carolina and Nevada - key battleground states.

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Chad Kolton, a former spokesman for the office of Director of National Intelligence during the George W. Bush administration who now represents OPSEC, also said the group's message and make-up are nonpolitical.
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more on Ben Smith, not just a Navy Seal:
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http://agonist.org/steve_hynd/20120815/reuters_reporter_gives_republican_attack_group_free_pass_on_nonpartisan_claim

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Ben Smith, the ex-SEAL named above, is nowadays better known for his activist work with the Tea Party Express and Move America Forward , the pressure group set up by California Republican public relations firm Russo Marsh & Rogers. Fred Rustmann, "a former undercover case officer for the CIA who is a spokesman for the group" is the same Fred Rustman who appeared in a co-ordinated campaign on Fox News and in the conservative press claiming to be Valerie Plame's case officer and saying that she openly acknowledged her status as a CIA agent, blowing her own cover.[/font] Larry Johnson dealt with Rustman's claims in his testimony to Congress. Finally, Hosenball mentions "Chad Kolton, a former spokesman for the office of Director of National Intelligence during the George W. Bush administration who now represents OPSEC". A moment's work with Google reveals that Kolton "led the public affairs department" at DNI during the Bush administration and now is a founding partner in the D.C.-based firm of HDMK, a PR firm founded by four Republican "communications veterans".
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Mr. Smith needs to be reminded of what the President said when he addressed the nation on the successful completion of the raid to GET bin Laden:
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2011/05/01/president-obama-death-osama-bin-laden#transcript

"Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda, and a terrorist who’s responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.
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We were also united in our resolve to protect our nation and to bring those who committed this vicious attack to justice. We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda -- an organization headed by Osama bin Laden, which had openly declared war on the United States and was committed to killing innocents in our country and around the globe. And so we went to war against al Qaeda to protect our citizens, our friends, and our allies.

Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we’ve made great strides in that effort. We’ve disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense.

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Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.
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Apparently, Smith also needs to be apprised of something the President did not say in his address to the nation that night. That is that it was PRESIDENT OBAMA'S IDEA TO ADD ANOTHER HELICOPTER JUST IN CASE THINGS DIDN'T GO AS PLANNED. I WOULD POINT OUT TO MR. SMITH THAT WITHOUT THE EXTRA HELICOPTER WE WOULD LIKELY NOT SEEN ALL OUR OPSEC PERSONNELL COME BACK FROM THAT OPERATION. FOR THAT EXTRA HELICOPTER, MR. SMITH, YOU CAN THANK PRESIDENT OBAMA.


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Group claiming to be made up of ex-OPSEC personnel attacks Obama for claiming to have killed OBL (Original Post) Bill USA Aug 2012 OP
Looks like a Kerry Swiftboating to me Frustratedlady Aug 2012 #1
in a CNN interview of Admiral Bill McRaven, commander ofthe raid (to get OBL), Admiral McRaven said: Bill USA Aug 2012 #4
That would be a good Facebook retort when (not if) people post this crap. Thanks! eom Frustratedlady Aug 2012 #6
The Swift boating begins montanacowboy Aug 2012 #2
oh I don't think you've seen anything yet, wait till hillary okieinpain Aug 2012 #7
These guys are so marginalized now... WCGreen Aug 2012 #3
Too bad warrior1 Aug 2012 #5
When did he ever claim to have done it all by himself? tanyev Aug 2012 #8
Never did. And unlike the Swiftliars who were going after NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #10
They make me laugh, these turds. I can take them out with one question. NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #9
Too many big words for them to understand. tabasco Aug 2012 #13
The American military, including the SEALS don't do anything unless their commander tells them to. Bandit Aug 2012 #11
Unless those Seals have resigned their commissions... they might want to rethink their words. Marrah_G Aug 2012 #12
this will only work if the media carries their water and repeats and rehashes it ad nauseum yurbud Aug 2012 #14
Well, you know CNBC and Faux are on board with that. HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #16
the great irony: their attack is the exact opposite of their Ayn Randian ideology yurbud Aug 2012 #15
Yeah right. Jack Sprat Aug 2012 #17
"Stupid, thy name is Right Wing" nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #18
This "non-partisan" group shares an office with 2 GOP consulting firms - CNN pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #19
Again? Capt. Obvious Aug 2012 #20

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
4. in a CNN interview of Admiral Bill McRaven, commander ofthe raid (to get OBL), Admiral McRaven said:
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:10 PM
Aug 2012

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"At the end of the day, make no mistake about it, it was the president of the United States that shouldered the burden for this operation, that made the hard decisions, that was instrumental in the planning process, because I pitched every plan to him."[/font]

instead of stopping our guys when they just about had bin Laden,as the Shrub did, Obama made the tough decision and gave the go ahead (and said add another helicopter, (which it turns out was needed!).

montanacowboy

(6,101 posts)
2. The Swift boating begins
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:01 PM
Aug 2012

right on cue along with all the other filthy dirty lies and voter suppression

People - get ready, fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride

And if we have another 2000 or 2004 massive vote stealing we need to be ready enmasse
to stop it immediately - no candidate conceding - and civil disobedience if necessary

We cannot take another stolen election laying down

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
5. Too bad
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:12 PM
Aug 2012

that they can't change the fact the President made the decision to kill bin laden and Romney would have given it a pass and not even tried.

Too late the truth is all ready out there, losers.

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haven't they tried this before?

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
10. Never did. And unlike the Swiftliars who were going after
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:30 PM
Aug 2012

something that happened 30+ years earlier which made it easier to fudge facts and distort the record, these guys are going after something that happened *last year*. And they have a really stupid premise, namely that Obama is claiming to have killed OBL (when did he ever?)

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
9. They make me laugh, these turds. I can take them out with one question.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:28 PM
Aug 2012

What the mother FUCK was your ass-daddy George Fucking Asshole Bush doing for all these years, huh?

Huh, smartass teafucker, how about THAT?

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
11. The American military, including the SEALS don't do anything unless their commander tells them to.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:03 PM
Aug 2012

Obama is their Commander and he told them to do the job.....

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
16. Well, you know CNBC and Faux are on board with that.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 06:03 AM
Aug 2012

Both networks are nothing but giant anti-Obama ads.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
15. the great irony: their attack is the exact opposite of their Ayn Randian ideology
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 03:20 AM
Aug 2012

if Obama HAD claimed sole credit for the successful mission, that's what Ayn Rand would say was appropriate.

Instead, righties are criticizing him (inaccurately) for not acknowledging all the people whose help he needed to pull it off.

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
17. Yeah right.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 06:49 AM
Aug 2012

It was me. I'm America. I took Bin Laden down while I was having Sunday dinner. Just like these phonies, I need some credit. Where's my medal? Where's my thanks? Those people who actually played a real part didn't do nuthin. It's about me and my flying squirrel compadre named Zip. Zip and Jack brought this thing down. Zip and I can both fly halfway around the world in mere seconds. Smith's a dang liar. I created this country out of the sweat of Zip's brow and founded the founding fathers themselves taking the jawbone of an ass and the rib of Sir Walter Raleigh and Marie Antoinette's kneecap. Then I got good and drunk for some 240 years until my little flying squirrel said "Sober up a few minutes Jackass America. Let's go kill bin Laden." So off we flew.

That's a true story of my creation of mankind in North America. Wait. I forgot I created Native Americans first. Dang if I remember what I made them from. Oh yeah, Moses and the Queen of Sheba. I created Native Americans, both north, central, and south from their Tommy John elbows.

So you ask who created these creeps called OPSUC Special Ed with Smithy, Chad Kolter, and the other drip? I didn't......Say-Tan did....Say-Tan did during a bowel movement. And thanks to what Say-Tan shat, we have to put up with this bull from another cesspool of ex swabbies.

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