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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:22 PM Aug 2012

Paterno biography: Penn State coach “sobbed uncontrollably” after firing



Joe Paterno “sobbed uncontrollably” the day after he was fired as the Penn State football coach, sportswriter Joe Posnanski’s writes in new biography, Paterno.

In its latest issue, GQ published an excerpt of the book, which is released next Tuesday. GQ.com posted three short sections of that excerpt on its website Wednesday.

In one scene from the day after Paterno’s firing, the coach is emotional.

On Thursday, Paterno met with his coaches at his house. He sobbed uncontrollably. This was his bad day. Later, one of his former captains, Brandon Short, stopped by the house. When Brandon asked, “How are you doing, Coach?” Paterno answered, “I’m okay,” but the last syllable was shaky, muffled by crying, and then he broke down and said, “I don’t know what I’m going to do with myself.” Nobody knew how to handle such emotion. Joe had always seemed invulnerable. On Thursday, though, he cried continually.

“My name,” he told Jay, “I have spent my whole life trying to make that name mean something. And now it’s gone.”

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http://tracking.si.com/2012/08/15/paterno-biography-penn-state-sobbed-firing/

So he cried for himself and the loss of his good name. Tough. It seems he was deliberately blind to the suffering of children.

I have little sympathy for him.
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Paterno biography: Penn State coach “sobbed uncontrollably” after firing (Original Post) cali Aug 2012 OP
Hey, I'm sure those molested and raped children cried too, Joe. HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #1
The more I learn about that man, the more disgusted I become. myrna minx Aug 2012 #2
What do you think those children did after they were molested? liberal N proud Aug 2012 #3
Imagine all the tears he could have stopped DonRedwood Aug 2012 #4
Just think what his name would be if he FIRED Sandusky when he found out about his crimes... jorno67 Aug 2012 #5
That's what I cannot wrap my head around. hifiguy Aug 2012 #25
And in the end, his lack of judgement and inaction destroyed his legacy, many lives, and Penn State jorno67 Aug 2012 #35
A remorseless and totally vile man BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #6
He knew damn well what he was doing by covering up a serial child molester. Initech Aug 2012 #7
He's sorry the situation came to light. eom Frustratedlady Aug 2012 #8
No sympathy here. HappyMe Aug 2012 #9
Sniveling Coward HangOnKids Aug 2012 #10
“My name,” “I have spent my whole life..." yes. what happens turning away from wrong. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #11
He covered up that monster to save his ego. Lovely. Initech Aug 2012 #17
i think covering up what was happening goes so far beyond ego. i think there is much more seabeyond Aug 2012 #20
"I have spent my whole life trying to make that name mean something." Rob H. Aug 2012 #12
We could term a phrase: A PATERNO is when you know a vile crime is being committed DonRedwood Aug 2012 #13
The "Paterno" case will be a training example in general SDjack Aug 2012 #21
Every year, to keep your teaching license, you have to go through a training DonRedwood Aug 2012 #27
They already have a word for that: Nevernose Aug 2012 #40
How do we know he didn't molest boys too Politicalboi Aug 2012 #14
how many tears did he spill for those children? datasuspect Aug 2012 #15
I can only hope that his grief came from the realization of how he failed, and not that his name Brickbat Aug 2012 #16
You really don't have to take sides DefenseLawyer Aug 2012 #18
Joe Paterno may have been raping the boys too. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #36
I take no joy in another's ruin DefenseLawyer Aug 2012 #38
Who's cheering about it? radicalliberal Aug 2012 #41
He chose not to protect those children to protect his name. That's how much his name mattered to him Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #19
If he would have canned Sandusky on the first reports of hifiguy Aug 2012 #22
What a jerk. His poor name. gollygee Aug 2012 #23
A wannabe hero, who was.. 99Forever Aug 2012 #24
You're supposed to be tough in football. Blue Owl Aug 2012 #26
My name. My name. My name. My name. jsr Aug 2012 #28
I wonder if sobbing uncontrollably when caught doing something wrong and losing your jonthebru Aug 2012 #29
Did Mrs. Paterno flee Centre County yet? Kolesar Aug 2012 #30
Well thanks to him, generations of victimized children have ALSO "sobbed uncontrollably" rocktivity Aug 2012 #31
If only he had done the right thing instead of CYA. eShirl Aug 2012 #32
My only regret is that he didn't live to see the Big10 and NCAA Sanctions. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #33
What were you expecting? Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #34
I'll bet $1 million dollars Joe didn't cry even a small fraction of what those boys cried riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #37
I hope they were tears of remorse. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #39

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
1. Hey, I'm sure those molested and raped children cried too, Joe.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:25 PM
Aug 2012

Crime is crime is CRIME. Blow the whistle, be a human being, turn the pedo bastard in. Would that have been SO difficult?

Doing the right thing would have meant more to your legacy than keeping a disgusting lie going.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
2. The more I learn about that man, the more disgusted I become.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:25 PM
Aug 2012
It's no wonder the child abuse was allowed to thrive with that kind of selfishness and arrogence.

liberal N proud

(60,344 posts)
3. What do you think those children did after they were molested?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:27 PM
Aug 2012

Paterno should have expected to be fired for protecting a child molester.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
4. Imagine all the tears he could have stopped
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:29 PM
Aug 2012

:0( I personally think the lot of them should be in jail...not just getting a fine (money other people have GIVEN them) and a slap on the wrist (you can't go to a bowl game).

How did they sleep at night? That's what I don't understand! They knew it was going on and they went home and played with their kids and their grandkids, and watched tv and read books and just went about things...while their co-worker was raping another little boy. And they knew.

The crime is sickening. The cover-up is....

I don't know. I don't have a word for it.

jorno67

(1,986 posts)
5. Just think what his name would be if he FIRED Sandusky when he found out about his crimes...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:30 PM
Aug 2012

His name would have been bigger than just a NCAA football coach with a historic record. His name would have stood for doing what is right no matter what. but he took the easy way out and tried to cover it all up. He earned his pain. It's a damn shame though, he could've been a great man - instead of a miserable coward.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
25. That's what I cannot wrap my head around.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:56 PM
Aug 2012

He would have been an even bigger hero than he once was had he chosen to fire Sandusky and turn it over to the cops. It makes no sense to me.

jorno67

(1,986 posts)
35. And in the end, his lack of judgement and inaction destroyed his legacy, many lives, and Penn State
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:27 PM
Aug 2012

He would've been considered the greatest NCAA Football coach of all time if he took a stand for what was right. Those boys and their families could've been spared so much pain and heartache. And Penn State...wow. where does that end up?

Initech

(100,103 posts)
7. He knew damn well what he was doing by covering up a serial child molester.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:31 PM
Aug 2012

The cover up made what Sandusky did that much worse. I have very little sympathy for every individual involved in this horrific crime.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
10. Sniveling Coward
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:32 PM
Aug 2012

What the fuck does his name have to do with ANYTHING in the world? Horrid, awful, self absorbed asshole.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
11. “My name,” “I have spent my whole life..." yes. what happens turning away from wrong. nt
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:33 PM
Aug 2012
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
20. i think covering up what was happening goes so far beyond ego. i think there is much more
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:51 PM
Aug 2012

about this issue that has nothing to do with ego. he is crying about it, because of ego.

Rob H.

(5,352 posts)
12. "I have spent my whole life trying to make that name mean something."
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:33 PM
Aug 2012

It does mean something. Just not what he would've wanted it to.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
13. We could term a phrase: A PATERNO is when you know a vile crime is being committed
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:35 PM
Aug 2012

and you go get some ice cream and go to a movie instead of calling the police.

And then Paterno's name will still mean something.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
21. The "Paterno" case will be a training example in general
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:53 PM
Aug 2012

and sports management for a 100 years. That is Joe's legacy.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
27. Every year, to keep your teaching license, you have to go through a training
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:00 PM
Aug 2012

about mandatory reporting of abuse of minors.

These guy knew the rules. They signed off on them every year they were in education, I'd bet.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
40. They already have a word for that:
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:05 PM
Aug 2012

Pope.

(Not a bash on Catholics, just one very specific Catholic who spent years covering for sex abusers.)

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
14. How do we know he didn't molest boys too
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:38 PM
Aug 2012

That is maybe why he kept it a secret. Knew he could lose a lot more by blabbing. There is more to come out of this story, and who knows where it will land.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
15. how many tears did he spill for those children?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:40 PM
Aug 2012

vile, horrid piece of shit.

he got his reward.

shitbird.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
16. I can only hope that his grief came from the realization of how he failed, and not that his name
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:43 PM
Aug 2012

would somehow be "gone."

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
18. You really don't have to take sides
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:44 PM
Aug 2012

I read that and feel empathy for someone who ruined his life by his own horrible mistakes. Why would anyone feel good about that? Some seem to equate hating that guy with someone caring more about the victims of abuse. The more I hate Paterno or Sandusky, the better a defender of victims of abuse I must be. I don't see it that way. I don't think feeling hate contributes anything positive.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
36. Joe Paterno may have been raping the boys too.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:34 PM
Aug 2012

His comments appear to indicate he cared way more about HIMSELF than the victims. He's crying about his loss of reputation?

Pretty shallow and self-centered. Its hard to feel empathy for that.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
38. I take no joy in another's ruin
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:54 PM
Aug 2012

even if it is of his own doing. That doesn't mean I'm on his side or like him or "forgive" him, whatever that means. I think human failure is sad. It's not something I get up and cheer about.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
19. He chose not to protect those children to protect his name. That's how much his name mattered to him
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:45 PM
Aug 2012

Bastard.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
22. If he would have canned Sandusky on the first reports of
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:54 PM
Aug 2012

his beastly behavior, and turned it over to the police Paterno would have taken a small, short media hit and then been held up as a good guy for getting rid of a very bad apple. How simple would that have been? Paterno had absolutely no one to blame but himself for his name now being mud.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
24. A wannabe hero, who was..
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:56 PM
Aug 2012

.. in reality, worse than a zero.

I wish there was a Hell for him to be burning in.

Blue Owl

(50,500 posts)
26. You're supposed to be tough in football.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:58 PM
Aug 2012

Turns out in the end, Joe was not more of a coward than a tough guy.

jonthebru

(1,034 posts)
29. I wonder if sobbing uncontrollably when caught doing something wrong and losing your
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:11 PM
Aug 2012

fiefdom is on the list of Sociopathic indicators?

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
31. Well thanks to him, generations of victimized children have ALSO "sobbed uncontrollably"
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:39 PM
Aug 2012

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Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
33. My only regret is that he didn't live to see the Big10 and NCAA Sanctions.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:03 PM
Aug 2012

Your name isn't gone, Joe. It will live in infamy as the Estate defending untold number of lawsuits.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
34. What were you expecting?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:24 PM
Aug 2012

At least a third of the student body came out to protest his firing.

The sports cult is an intergral part of society, sadly.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
37. I'll bet $1 million dollars Joe didn't cry even a small fraction of what those boys cried
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:37 PM
Aug 2012

He'd have to spend another 50 lifetimes "sobbing uncontrollably" before coming close to the buckets of tears the victims cried - before, during and after their rapes, and for the rest of their lives.

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