I won't watch MSNBC if Kornacki is on.

[boston bean]

Get rid of him!! Please MSNBC.

[tazkcmo]

1. Amen. nt

[COLGATE4]

61. And another huge Amen!

[eShirl]

2. barnicle & robinson: smiles!! kornaki: deflated

[janterry]

5. I've never quite gotten over Barnicle

and his invented columns. I read him all the time when I was young - on the T going to work. But after I found out about some of the lies, I don't know. I've never quite trusted him as a journalist again.

I'm glad he has fans and work (for real!) But I never quite got over it.

[Achilleaze]

7. Yup. Like a republican, Barnicle pissed in his own nest

He's lied and cheated then, and just runs his mouth now. Just like a republican.

[OnDoutside]

24. He's only there so Joe can do his Red Sox talk schtick...

[comradebillyboy]

78. That's why Joe Scab has him on.

[whathehell]

34. Just curious..

I only know Barnicle from MSNBC, what lies did he tell in his columns?

[janterry]

43. He had a lovely, old fashioned column in the Boston Globe for years

and he would tell the story of someone who overcame all odds - or who was left out - or some sad thing. His column was an institution - he was really well known in Boston.

The column was homey, poignant, and very readable. But, after investigation, it appeared that he made up some of the characters. I don't think the extent of the lies was ever really known - but the one story that did him in was a boy who died of cancer

that never existed. He was also guilty of plaigerism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1998/08/20/mike-barnicle-forced-out-at-boston-globe/8efb380a-8c1a-48a6-8b16-1f76878a494c/?utm_term=.448f22f43caa
This is when he came under scrutiny:

Earlier this month, the 25-year Globe veteran mounted a high-profile campaign to save his job after he used a series of jokes from a George Carlin book without attribution. Barnicle conceded his conduct had been "stupid" and "embarrassing," but said the jokes were given to him by a bartender friend.

but this is what did him in:
In the Oct. 8, 1995, column, Barnicle told a tear-jerker tale about a wealthy family whose 9-year-old son was at being treated for cancer at Children's Hospital here. The white boy became friends with a black child in the hospital, and after the other child died, the white child's parents gave the black child's family $10,000, according to the column. The piece began: "She opened the letter as she strolled up the driveway from the mailbox. As she finished the first paragraph she stopped in her tracks, unable to focus because of the tears in her eyes. After a few seconds, she lifted her head toward the perfect sky and, for a brief, wonderful moment, she could hear her son singing his favorite song."

Barnicle then quoted the entire 10-sentence letter: "We will never forget the kindness you showed our son at Children's. God moves in mysterious ways. We are so fortunate. . . . Now it is time for our family to give in return. May God bless you."

One Globe staffer, who asked not to be named, said: "In the end, all of the evidence showed no boy existed, no boy died of cancer, they couldn't find the nurse, and the words complete fabrication' were used today. I think the staff felt really triumphant. . . . People felt shocked again, but we also felt a real sense that he hung himself by his own noose."

[whathehell]

103. Geez Louise!...That's quite a compendium

of lies and bullshit -- I had no idea. I'm surprised he was able to hold onto his career at all.

[hlthe2b]

3. My BP spikes when he's on... but I'm not sure any other coverage is going to be better.

[boston bean]

9. Yeah. They all pretty much suck. That is why my viewing

of cable news has shortened. I just can’t wait for tuesday 11:59pm. So we know if we will have a chance for escape or delve further into the depths of autocracy.

After 2016 my belief in goodness of Americans was shattered. But I have a ray of hope.

[hlthe2b]

20. I may be able to tolerate it if Eugene Robinson is on. He makes me smile and calms me down...

[whathehell]

26. Nah..Gene Robinson doesn't suck & neither does Heidi Pryzbyla.

but, wherever.

[Raster]

38. I completely agree with you about Gene and Heidi.

[Jersey Devil]

4. He doesn't bother me

I know a lot of people complain about his being hyper and partisan. He sure is hyper but I have a hard time seeing any real partisanship from him. All I see is a guy who gets super excited about elections acting like a kid with a new video game. It's rather funny.

[secondwind]

16. I feel the same way. There are more worse things

to get carried away about.

[Demsrule86]

6. He wasn't bad today...and basically said that Dems have a chance to win big.

[Bob Loblaw]

8. I keep thinking he's going to say

"How much would you pay for all this?! Wait, don't answer! Call now and we'll double your order, just pay the additional shipping and handling fee!

[manor321]

10. Good. No one should ever watch him

Or Chuck Todd, or Chris Matthews or Morning Joe.

[Old Vet]

18. Good grief, just listein to the radio then................

I enjoy all the names you mentioned, They all have good days and not so good

[whathehell]

31. Lol..

Yes, the negativity is getting a bit deep.

[lillypaddle]

88. Chris Matthews is one of the best

-most of the time- He has a real historical knowledge and lately has been about as progressive as you can get. I think he gets a bad rap.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

39. i've seen those names

I once managed to watch Toady Todd for one whole block between commercials (7 minutes?).

Broadcast, cable, and little dish TV is for football, and even that is getting harder to watch because of ads.

TV mostly manufactures and contrives controversy to sell more eyeballs to advertisers.

[duforsure]

11. I don't either

And turn the channel .

[Sherman A1]

12. You should email them

and let them know.

[Dennis Donovan]

13. I like him - I think he's fine

[secondwind]

17. Yes, he is.

[whathehell]

21. Yeah..I'm not getting the Kornacki hate thing at all.

[Funtatlaguy]

30. Manic. Log Cabin Republican.

[whathehell]

32. I don't hate people for being manic & I don't know that he's a Republican

of any sort.

[stopbush]

55. He was pen pals with Chris Christie.

[NCjack]

79. OK, so he is very lonely. But, I like his enthusiasm for his work.

As for being a Log Cabin Repuke -- fine with me, as long as their crap stays out of the show.

[whathehell]

97. Penpals?

Perhaps you could elaborate.

[unitedwethrive]

60. Based on comments here, I've been tracking him for the last couple weeks...he is partisan

Almost universally, when a Republican has a 2 to 3 point lead, he says “it looks like so-and-so is going to hang onto their seat“. When a Democrat has a 2 to 3 point lead, ihe says “this is another close one and could go either way“, or “so-and-so is in danger here, and this is the race to watch“.

[whathehell]

98. He talks so fast, I'm unable to follow him.

so you may be right. That said, he seems pretty innocuous to me.

He should be checked on any partisanship he's displaying, of course, but I just can''t dislike him. .

[Old Vet]

99. Actually kornacki is a pretty smart dude, His brain works real fast, Some cant keep up

[shenmue]

44. He's cute

[Hoyt]

52. I do too. Don't mind enthusiasm.

[USALiberal]

58. Me too, people here just want only 100% pro dem news. Nt

[Mike Nelson]

14. Yikes...

… he did seem a bit glum about new polls favoring Democrats.

[Old Vet]

19. Steves a numbers man, give him a break............

[nature-lover]

77. Math makes him happy.

[agingdem]

15. Hyper!

He's manic and he so wants a tight race as if his near hysteria will make it so...I'll take the quiet calm of Nate Silver any day.

[EffieBlack]

22. I like the information he provides, but his breathless approach grates on me after awhile

He's very knowledgeable and I learn a lot listening to him when I can get past the hyper schtick. If he dialed it down several notches, he'd be really good.

[USALiberal]

23. He is fine, you must want 100% good news I guess! Nt

[boston bean]

27. You guess wrong. I want the truth not some breathless republican

reporting doom and gloom spin on polls against democrats.

[USALiberal]

57. So your claim is that he a Gay Republican? Nt

[boston bean]

62. My claim is that he constantly

is critical of democrats and is flowing and breathlessly glowing with hope for republicans.

[USALiberal]

64. Lol, ok! Nt

[USALiberal]

90. Come election night you can show me how wrong he was. Nt

[Old Vet]

102. Before I go off on your ass please tell me your NOT calling Steve a breathless repub,,,,,

I cant fucking wait to vote, Theres so much on the line, I believe the women are gonna kick ass tomorrow.

[boston bean]

106. I don't know what he is. But he is favorable to republicans when slinning the polls. Yes he gives op

Not just numbers. And he is alway always highlighting and making any number positive for republicans.

[LanternWaste]

65. Seems a bit irrational to infer only one possibility when so many others exist.

But I get it... sometimes, one possibility is the best we can do, especially when our biases tell us as such.

[saidsimplesimon]

25. I turn the channel

on any news reporting on that ugly mug or words of the liar in chief.

[Funtatlaguy]

28. I can't grab the remote quickly enuf to turn to CNN or ESPN.

[Hortensis]

29. Shoot the messenger? I agree that scary numbers take

guts to listen to that I can't always whomp up and often leave me depressed and frightened. For that reason, and knowing how foolish it is to put faith in this stuff anyway, I've stopped watching all of them.

So I have no opinion on Kornacki. Fwiw, though, I once again can find no support on googling for the notions here that Kornacki is significantly slanting the data. So even if he were conservative and tilted that way a bi, it's very light compared to, frankly, most of daytime MSNBC groupthink.

For a smile, here're some just plain old positive, non-political, non-Kornacki data to take away. World poverty is not only falling dramatically as population growth explodes, but it's decreasing in absolute numbers as well as percentages. (Gee, how could THAT be true? Everyone knows this is a shithole world going down the tubes, the media all show that. And liberal ideals and goals don't exist, we can't even come up with a message that they'll report. MSNBC, CNN and Fox all say so.)

[lunatica]

70. Wow! That's fascinating.

But I notice the data source has a year date of 2002. Were they projecting or are these actual numbers and the year stamp denotes something else?

If the data is true that means world poverty peaked around 1970 and has declined since to about half of what it was in 1820. I’m guessing that’s when Poverty first started to get measured.

But the criteria for measurement is $1.90 in international dollars which probably means extreme poverty such as you see in India and Africa and Latin America in the slums.

It would be interesting to see a higher dollar base used as the means to measure poverty. I think it might show a very different graph. As it stands it seems to show that people in the US who work for minimum wage are not considered poor at all, yet they all struggle, even with two minimum wage workers (or more) in the family.

[Hortensis]

89. The trends have continued. They're mostly a function of

developing nations developing and the great benefits of new technology, creating not just wealth but new attitudes of what is appropriate for ourselves and others. I just grabbed this graph for a big picture of what's REALLY happening. This trend is shown much the same, if this one doesn't use them, with weighted figures to account for various factors.

India only spends about 2.5% of its GDP on social spending so far, far lower than wealthy nations which top out at about 25%,but it's far more than European rulers spent on their people before 1820, including education and healthcare; for many, it was nothing. But global wealth tripled between 1820 and 1900, tripled again by 1960, and then tripled again by 1985, and then tripled again in the next 30+ years. And thanks to greatly increased productivity, it takes far less to purchase far more now. Even with the very wealthy gathering most, the world as one expert put is is "becoming middle class."

Btw, I read a Ugandan man on Quora who disputed the notion that subsisting on less than a dollar a day (the figure's actually $1.90 now I think) places his grandfather among the desperately poor. He lives pretty much the same way his ancestors did 4 thousand years ago, on what he grows, but is well, happy and far from desperate. The kerosene energy that was probably the big advancement in wellbeing (aside from some modern healthcare recently also becoming available) for recent generations has now been replaced by solar power. An enlightening perspective, but what I particularly noted was that his grandson is an educated man who lives in the Information Age with his wife and 2 children, not 7 to have replacements for those who don't live to grow up.

Not to be Pollyanna, but the world and our nation are very different places from what TV/cable news portrays.

[lunatica]

92. Thanks for responding.

Obviously many complex factors are included. If factual then there’s reason for optimism. I hope climate change will galvanize this trend to keep moving in the right direction. Energy alternatives are really available to everyone if the governments pursue them. It might advance another tripling of wealth growth.

This is very interesting, especially since it shows positive growth in all human wealth.

[Hortensis]

94. You remind me I stopped reading a very well regarded book

on what climate change was expected to mean for the planet a couple years ago and never picked it back up, too grim. But of course it will force/is forcing massive changes to sustainable energy sources, manufacturing, food production, and fresh water use. Many new technologies are already far more efficient than even a decade ago

I like this because it is so true:

Barack Obama has a one-question test that proves how good the world is today: Former President Barack Obama showed he can shut down critics of humanity's progress with a single question.

Former President Barack Obama knows the world is getting better, and he can prove it with one question.
At the Goalkeepers 2017 conference, held by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation today in New York, Obama gave a keynote address in which he shared a one-question test to demonstrate how humanity is making progress.

"If you had to choose one moment in history in which to be born, and you didn't know in advance whether you were going to be male or female, which country you were going to be from, what your status was, you'd choose right now," he said.

He went on to say that world has never been "healthier, or wealthier, or better educated, or in many ways more tolerant, or less violent, than it is today."

The Gates foundation's recent "Goalkeepers" report and follow-up conference sought to highlight progress that might not be obvious day to day. Public health data show that greater leaps have been made in the fights against polio, childhood mortality, maternal death, gender inequality, poverty, infectious disease, and raft of other metrics over the last few decades than at any point in human history.

That macro perspective of humanity's progress is surprisingly sunny, in spite of the natural disasters, political turmoil, and terrorist activity that often captures our attention.

"It's demonstrable that fewer people are being killed in wars or conflicts than ever before," Obama said. "This is the time you'd wanna be showing up on this planet."

https://www.businessinsider.com/president-barack-obama-speech-goalkeepers-2017-9

We won't be waiting for MSNBC to have talking heads discuss and Kornacki illustrate these realities, though. Positively incompatible with the product they're peddling.

[whathehell]

33. You might want to check the spelling of the word "watch"

Just sayin'.

[boston bean]

35. Damn iphone.

[whathehell]

36. Uh huh.

[lunatica]

71. I curse my iPhone every day!

It’s maddeningly creative in very screwed up ways! Sometimes it substitutes something so perversely different that I forget what I was actually writing!

[Siwsan]

37. His technique of presentation is just to frenetic. It distracts from what he is reporting, IMHO

His over the top flailing around those charts actually remind me of why I abandoned corporate America. Bad flashbacks........

[themaguffin]

40. He's fine in small amounts. I just can't watch that much cable news anymore no matter who

...it is.

Tomorrow night will be an exception of course. But the last two years with this circus, I just can't...

[MontanaMama]

41. Free Speech TV is having live Election coverage.

They broadcast on Sling, Dish Network and maybe other providers. They’re also available online. I’m thinking of giving them a shot because I can’t watch kornwacky either without losing my mind. Tomorrow is going to be stressful enough. I’ll be check in here too...RandySF is a treasure.

[RhodeIslandOne]

63. Meh

You'll have a bunch of Stein followers whining or cackling depending on how the Democrats do.

[MontanaMama]

95. I actually watch a lot of FSTV.

They've got a bias I guess, but so does MSNBC and CNN. I don't think it is overwhelming, however. Have to filter it out or not watch tv, I guess. That's always a choice.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

42. They can get rid of their theme music, too. I'm sick it already.

And yes I know I can change the channel.

[dreamland]

45. Agreed. It would be time spent, I couldn't regain.

[brooklynite]

46. Thank you for sharing this vital information with us...

[redstatebluegirl]

47. Amen to that!

He makes me nuts! Plus I think he is going to be real wrong this time because his own politics are shading his judgement.

[MineralMan]

48. There are many alternatives for election coverage.

Probably, you should watch the one that suits you best.

One of the major networks, like CBS, NBC or ABC might be a better choice, I suppose.

I'll probably watch MSNBC, I think. I used to watch CNN on election nights, but have fallen out of that habit.

[bigbrother05]

84. Same here, actually enjoy Steve's frantic style

Often find myself wondering about some obscure way to slice the data and he usually gets there at some point in the coverage.

[Polly Hennessey]

49. I agree, it is difficult to watch him.

Almost always, I feel a little depressed after his numbers song and dance. Miraculously, if the Democrats have a seven-point lead, it is a tight race. If the Republicans have a seven-point lead, it is a runaway victory for them. No, he is a depressive and tiresome shill for the other side.

[JohnnyRingo]

50. Be glad it's not Jim Cramer.

Big. Red. Buttons.

Booya!

[INdemo]

51. He likes his Right Wingers but

I tuned in to MSNBC briefly this morning and Stephanie was talking about what Trump should be talking about on his campaign stops...the economy. Said it was stupid of him to be boasting about the caravan..

Nothing like a little campaign advice..

[dem4decades]

53. Just curious, who is CNN's "Kornacki"?

[OilemFirchen]

66. Harry Enten.

Despite his 538 bona fides, he's equally as unwatchable.

[dem4decades]

67. LOL

[stopbush]

54. I guess you won't be watching MSNBC.

[Fiendish Thingy]

56. I can't stand just about any ambiguously speculative punditry...

Telling me what everything means, or could mean, or might mean...

Even Rachel and Chris Hayes, when they stray from their evidence-rich investigative reporting, can be too much.

If my wife will allow, I will watch the returns with the sound off, while simultaneously checking the live blogging here and at Daily Kos.

[lunatica]

72. Good tactic

I’ll do the same and work on my latest painting if I can.

I’ve never tried painting while teetering on the brink of the cliff of teeth gritting, gut twisting uncertainty. But I might as well try it.

[FakeNoose]

74. I think they're all being very careful after the 2016 fiasco

None of the journos want to say anything "predicty" that will come back later to haunt them. Most were certain that Hillary would win in 2016, and so did all of us. That's why we're hearing a lot of "it could be this, it could be that."

Just sayin'

[qazplm135]

87. that is exactly what is going on

everyone is gun shy about positive Dem polling. They don't know if it's for real, or if, a second time, there's this deep, hidden pool of Trumpers out there to change the game.

I don't think there are, but I am also not facing millions of people seeing my predictions ready to call me out.

[Calista241]

59. I like Kornacki. I want my news real, and if Repubs get a ray of hope before we crush their souls

i won't be disappointed.

[Honeycombe8]

101. I agree. He pretty much sticks to reality, to numbers...and he can call a district....

when enough votes are in. He gets excited, too, when votes are coming in. It's fun to watch him.

[Tavarious Jackson]

68. I don't like anyone on MSNBC

Except Rachel and Joy, sometimes Lawerence… The rest are fairly rightwing

[lindysalsagal]

69. I always enjoy Steve. He's got so much knowledge.

[lunatica]

73. I don't like him since he wrote his book claiming we all practice tribalism

That’s a ‘both sides do it equally’ argument that simply isn’t factual.

Disagreeing vehemently and passionately with children torn from their families and locked in cages, with insulting and demeaning racism, with embracing Putin and alienating our allies and neighboring countries, with inciting violence on people who disagree with you, with thinking it’s OK to attack women’s rights, etc., is not tribalism. Sorry, but it just isn’t.

Kornacki may be a pretty good statistician, but he’s a poor observer of humans. He’s mediocre at best when it comes to studying political culture in this country. It’s like he just makes it up while falling for his own erroneous aggrandizement.

[Awsi Dooger]

75. I can't imagine watching MSNBC on election nights

John King on CNN is more astute than Kornacki without the juvenile antics, and now with Enten it's like a heavy dose of 538-caliber analysis also.

This is Enten's first major election night since joining CNN. I'll caution that he is a believer in the low end of the wave. His model has been consistently lower than 538 in terms of our House net. I happen to believe Enten is correct but the cheerleader types here may not like it.

CNN is simply the grown up network among the two. I don't think that is overstating matters.

[JonLP24]

108. I don't think so

I watch a lot of CNN coverage. During the daytime is alright sometimes but the prime time hosts outside of Lemon they bring on Kellyanne Conway a lot. Do both sides talk like comparing restaurant to mailing bombs. Rachel Maddow is still miles ahead of the Primetime shows and she doesn't bring on useless guests.

[samnsara]

76. noooooo...some of us enjoy his wonkiness. PLZ MSNBC KEEP HIM!

[calimary]

80. Annoys you, too, 'eh? Sometimes if I'm feeling lazy,

I just hit the mute button and check my email or something else that takes my eyes off the TV. And the dog can always use another pee-walk...

[dem in texas]

81. QUIT SLAMMING STEVE kORNACKI!

If you don't like him, go watch Fox News.

[lunatica]

96. LOL!

Sure! Kornacki is the epitome of a liberal Democrat! If you don’t like him then just leave the country because you hate America!

Thanks for the laugh.

[Garrett78]

82. He is pretty obnoxious but tolerable. I'll switch between MSNBC and CNN.

[Zambero]

83. Mostly a lot of hedging

I find much of the stats that Kornacki provides (past state / district voting history, shifting demographics, polling data etc.) to be interesting useful for context purposes. But it's a bit like a reality show -- stay tuned for the next exciting episode of where is all this shit headed today, blah blah. At any rate, I'd give him an award for being the hyper-animated Joe Cocker version of political hype and prognosticated.

[YOHABLO]

85. I tune push that little button on the remote so I can go back and forth from CNN to MSNBC

Of course CNN will have Rick Santorum on .. he's a paid commentator, Ana Navaro perhaps Bill Crystal etc. they always have more RWer commentators on. So that's why I have to switch back and forth.

[lillypaddle]

86. Have you let msnbc know?

I've written them (tweeted) this week about Kornacki, Noelle something-or-other, Kasie Hunt, and Hugh Hewett. Oh, and Andy Card is as big of an apologist for trump as there is.

[NurseJackie]

91. Whenever he pops in on TRMS, I hit the skip/fast-forward button...

... I'd rather listen to the "1-877 kars for kids" commercial instead of watching him.

[GulfCoast66]

93. I like him.

I find the math fascinating and I enjoy seeing some get so excited over it.

I think he is tempering his projections based on 16.

But if we start running the tables early no one will be more fun to watch. If we disappoint then it will suck no matter who is analyzing it

[Honeycombe8]

100. I like him. He's a numbers guy. I like the hard numbers, the trends. Not partisan.

That's what I want in a numbers guy. Give it to me straight.

[boston bean]

107. Then how can gou like him???

[kstewart33]

104. I watch John King on CNN.

Much more insightful analysis and a calm presentation. I'd bet that CNN may have better software than MSNBC because King digs down deep into the county level which is particularly important in the house races.

[FloridaBlues]

109. Agree I like watching King on CNN sometimes I flip to both cable channels

But stick to our state web site for local /state races.

[chillfactor]

105. I love watching Kornacki on an election night....

he gets so exited. John King on CNN has a dead-pan voice and a lethargic demur .