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On incels, murderous misogyny and the far right. (Original Post) Soph0571 Nov 2018 OP
If these incels treated women like equals, they wouldn't be so lonely. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #1
Bingo dalton99a Nov 2018 #7
Rec for Laurie Penny kcr Nov 2018 #2
Really nailed it PatSeg Nov 2018 #3
What is with our culture's constant sex obsession. Lonestarblue Nov 2018 #4
TRUTH The Blue Flower Nov 2018 #5
Hate-full extremists will always find a cause. It is OUR job to contain them. Hortensis Nov 2018 #6
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Nov 2018 #8
Wanna learn more? 7wo7rees Nov 2018 #9
That was good! Iggo Nov 2018 #10
Excellent! ZZenith Nov 2018 #13
Wow, how have I never stumbled across this person before? Tarc Nov 2018 #15
K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #11
kick Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #12
Back in my day, we had another word for "incels": LOSERS. Dave Starsky Nov 2018 #14

SunSeeker

(51,744 posts)
1. If these incels treated women like equals, they wouldn't be so lonely.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 06:39 AM
Nov 2018

But incels don't want a partner, they want a slave.

Lonestarblue

(10,103 posts)
4. What is with our culture's constant sex obsession.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 08:54 AM
Nov 2018

Perhaps it’s just that I’m a senior, but it seems to me that we are the most sex-obsessed country on earth. Add the violence that some young men are encouraged to feel, and you have a recipe for disaster. I hate to blame parents, but what kind of home life did incels have? I know my parents kept us so busy with chores that between school and work on the farm we didn’t have time or the energy to think about sex—of course, back then, we weren’t bombarded with it every time we turned on the TV or now the Internet. What do these men learn about women during formative years? And is there any way to reach them to encourage behavioral change—they must be really miserable characters.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Hate-full extremists will always find a cause. It is OUR job to contain them.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 09:11 AM
Nov 2018

Fortunately, they're all small minorities with a great deal of overlap. Men with hate-full and bigoted attitudes toward women have hate-full and bigoted attitudes toward other groups that make up the rest of humanity also.

I wish people would pay far less attention, btw, to these creeps and far more to the increase in lonely men who are being shut out of the American dream of marriage, children and happy homes because some women are making other choices. This has become a huge problem for both them and for the health of our democracy and is one that needs to be addressed by caring society.

When some of these men say the Democrats' promises of progress don't talk to them, they're feeling that our fight to advance equality of women and minorities as hurting them badly, and they see no end in sight. Many handle this rationally and decently. But anger and frustration in men have always been potentially dangerous, and now it's dangerous on a national scale as bad leaders seek to harness fears of not getting any, now or ever, to overthrow Democrats.

ZZenith

(4,130 posts)
13. Excellent!
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 02:31 AM
Nov 2018

May have to go over to Patreon and start supporting this person. That was a delightful essay on the subject - fair and unflinching.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
15. Wow, how have I never stumbled across this person before?
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 09:01 AM
Nov 2018

I'm about 10 mins in, and this is amazing.

Liked and subscribed!

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
14. Back in my day, we had another word for "incels": LOSERS.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 08:25 AM
Nov 2018

And EVERY guy knew that if you couldn't get ANY woman to go out with you, there was something clearly wrong with YOU.

But we took responsibility for things like this back then. We worked on our clothes, our bodies, our hygiene, and... MOST importantly... our behavior. It was amazing how often that resulted in almost miraculous change in our fortunes--romantically and otherwise.

But I can completely understand why they think that being a mopey, sulky, angry, whiny titty-baby is an effective strategy for them. Their God King Leader is the biggest mopey, sulky, angry, whiny titty-baby I have ever seen walk the Earth.

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