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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDespite trump's folly of demanding that the soldiers sent to the border treat rocks like rifles,
it is highly unlikely that the soldiers will even carry live ammunition. Even in the event that they have loaded weapons it is beyond reason that an American soldier would open fire on a crowd of women and children, not to mention men who might have a rock in their hands. They dont do it anywhere else in the world.
Trumps order that they do so is another brick in the real wall he is building, that he is immoral, a monstererous asshole. To demand that our soldiers take the lives of children and other defenseless humans is beyond the pale.
Likely an illegal order anyway, it sets up a conflict between the military and the civilian construct. The command structure will have to spend time figuring out how to defy this illegal order without incurring the wrath of the whitehouse boob.
Any unnecessary death of the so called Caravan marchers at the hands of our military will make trump complicit in murder. I guess thats just another day at the White House for you.
Imagine, a draft dodger ordering American soldiers to open fire on women and children. Trumps own personal Mai Lai massacre. Perhaps he should just call in a preemptive air strike and be done with it. That would show what a tough guy warrior he is.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Then someday we may see Trump in front of the Hague.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)The U.S. has no agreement with the International Court. IIRC, that's one of the reasons Donald Rumsfeld no longer travels to certain countries. Better informed DUers, please feel free to correct me.
strangedaysindeed
(226 posts)Why does the media even carry this buffoon anymore.
If they just went silent on him, wouldn't he just shrivel up?
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)He's whipping up emotions, making innocent people seem like terrorists, making the unimaginable imaginable. He is gathering up the tinder for the fire. Then sooner or later, some minor confrontation will be the spark...
lark
(23,147 posts)National Guard opened up and shot students throwing rocks at Kent State with live ammunition and killed not only rock throwers but also some students who were far away & not part of the protest at all. I would not bet one penny that the soldiers on that line will not shoot to kill innocent brown women and children because they are being ordered to do that. I'd like to think they'd rebel, but they certainly didn't at Kent State and the environment is far more toxic now.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)All it takes is one jerk and then the others follow suit and there's a whole field of dead unarmed families. That is what drumpf wants to happen and if enough arrive here, it will sadly happen because at least one of those soldiers will be a rw'er who hates anyone not white and will gleefully start shooting.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Kent state was committed by frightened, untrained, inexperienced mainly college aged Guardsmen.
The soldiers on the boarder will be composed of experienced professional soldiers, commanded by professional officers who know rules of engagement and that they are being used as political props and will pissed at being there. They have practice at restraining themselves in Afghanistan where they are taunted daily and where their life actually is at risk. And many of them will be of Mexican heritage.
Even if Trump gave them an explicit order to fire they would not.
Chances are after the election you will hear no more about it.