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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid you watch Eddie Glaude on Deadline WH today?
He was very eloquent and the words came from deep within. It was an insightful perspective about 2016....
[link:https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/31/msnbc_eddie_glaude_i_overestimated_white_people_i_didnt_think_they_would_put_trump_in_office.html|
Transcript:
EDDIE GLAUDE JR.: I was critical of Hillary Clinton and get hemmed up on Twitter every day for criticizing Donald Trump because people believe I'm responsible, in part, for Donald Trump being in the White House. What I did wrong in 2016 is I overestimated white people. I didn't think white people would put him in office.
So here he is running around the country appealing to our darker angels, appealing to our hatred and fears and I'm supposed to believe that Delaware County in Ohio is not going to vote for him. That the suburbs in Pennsylvania aren't going to vote for him? Aren't going to vote for him in Florida?
So part of what I do know is that it's going to require young people, it's going to require people of color, it's going to require African-Americans like they showed up in Alabama and Virginia. It's going to require us to turn out in massive numbers because I made a mistake in 2016. And the evidence is not in yet. I know it sounds cynical, but this man doubled down after 11 beautiful people were shot and killed while worshiping. Jefferson Town, Kentucky, murdered, shot in the back of the head for what? For what? Some ideal of whiteness that Donald Trump represents and spews out of his mouth every single day.
VIDEO at link. Please watch.
oasis
(49,410 posts)Flakes like you proclaimed "I won't vote for Hillary", and dampened Democratic enthusiasm. Less votes for us because of "principled" pompous jellyfish like you.
Own it.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Has he said?
I don't remember seeing him until recently. Was he high visibility during 2016?
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)He claimed it didn't matter because he lived in a blue state. But surely many people who lived in other states heard him and saw that as permission not to vote for her either - after all, even the smart black guy from Princeton wasn't going to vote for her.
Cha
(297,723 posts)And, actually brainwashed.
Thanks for that info, Effie.
oasis
(49,410 posts)he didn't influence a single person to stay away from the polls on Election Day.
Prof. Glaude.
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)By EDDIE S. GLAUDE, JR. July 12, 2016
IDEAS
Glaude is the William S. Tod Professor of Religion and African American Studies at Princeton University and the author of Democracy in Black.
I am not voting for Hillary Clinton, regardless of her endorsement by Bernie Sanders. My decision isnt because of the scandal around her emails or because of some concern over her character. My reasons are pretty straightforward. I dont agree with her ideologically.
Democratic values centered on economic and racial justice shape my own politics. Im not convinced those values shape hers. Nothing Clinton says or intends to do if elected will fundamentally transform the circumstances of the most vulnerable in this countryeven with her concessions to the Sanders campaign. Like the majority of Democratic politicians these days, she is a corporate Democrat intent on maintaining the status quo. And I have had enough of all of them.
More at
http://time.com/4402823/glaude-hillary-clinton/
Cha
(297,723 posts)eloquent at all.
More like brainwashed.
Yeah, do any of them "own" their shite?
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)I know we can just blow off what I feel, but we need to stop broad brushing people. I am an old white male. I am not your enemy.
I have voted for Dems since 1968.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)need to take ownership for every republican driven disaster since Bush 2000. They own the country not being as progressive as they, all because of them.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)brush
(53,876 posts)He said in 2016 that he could not vote for Hillary Clinton.
He had a platform public platform then and undoubtedly influenced others.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Any look at the '16 election will show you that the majority of white women, as well as white men, voted for Trump.
oasis
(49,410 posts)Cha
(297,723 posts)spent the 2016***
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
***I edited to correct the date.. Bodak Red got us in 2106 in her Tweet.
oasis
(49,410 posts)an extremely intelligent individual--oh no, the erudite professor chooses to back Jill Stein.
Thanks Cha, for the Bodak Red piece. He's telling it like it is.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)WHITE woman as well as all the other college educated white women in my family all voted for Hillary and I'll accept ZERO responsibility for the degenerate in the oval office. The blame goes to those who voted for donnie as well as those who didn't vote or voted third party with their imbecilic "there's no difference between the parties" nonsense - like this clown who didn't vote for Hillary because he thought being edgy would keep him on TV during a Hillary administration..
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)One reason some of those white people didn't vote for Hillary is that they heard a black guy on TV saying he couldn't bring himself to vote for her, thereby giving the permission to do the same thing.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)I'd like to see if, if anyone remembers.
I don't remember him at all from previous era.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)I heard him myself and almost spit out my coffee.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)nt
ecstatic
(32,733 posts)in 2016. It really really bothered me that he refused to in the months following the election. That being said, his excuse for voting for Stein is ridiculous.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Saying he overestimated white people is trying to shift the blame. THIS white woman voted for Hillary, he did not.
Marcuse
(7,519 posts)oasis
(49,410 posts)to bear on her presidency". A classic Hillary hater, Glaude, in late Oct. 2016, was preparing to undermine her administration. He preferred Jill Stein.
renate
(13,776 posts)I wish we would welcome people who are brave enough to publicly admit their mistakes.
ProfessorGAC
(65,212 posts)He voted for Stein. That's equally dumb and selfish.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)If his intent was to show white people how it feels to be stereotyped, kudos, job well done.
Plenty of white people, myself included, voted for Clinton and vote for Dems every election. Unfortunately, there were too many people like Prof Glaude who believed the good was the enemy of the perfect and refused to vote for her or voted 3rd party or just stayed home.
Near the end of Deadline WH, Glaude did seem to realize his comments were over the top and tried to walk them back, but can't unring that bell.
phylny
(8,389 posts)I'm busting my butt to elect Democrats here in Virginia. We did it for Ralph Northam for Governor in a big way and we continue to do so.
Rural, white, 60-year-old, always voted Democratic woman. Right here.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and it makes my blood boil that others who actually didn't vote for Hillary try and shift that blame elsewhere.
LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)Whom I've not herard SHIT from since he made a cot damn fool out of himself only this time on Bill Maher's show, still talking out of the side of his neck about how bad Hillary was 🙄
But Glaude's someone who I've not really ever been fond of either.
Doc Eddie underestimated how racist some white folks can be?
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)oasis
(49,410 posts)"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem"---Eldridge Cleaver.