Bernie Sanders marching hundreds of students to the polls in Florida for Gillum

[Donkees]

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[bearsfootball516]

1. He did the same thing in Indiana at IU a couple weeks ago.

I'm not his biggest fan, but if he can help get college voters to the polls this year, keeping doing what you're doing!

[mikeysnot]

2. It is really a shame that he does not do enough for the

Democratic Party....

[denvine]

6. I know,

besides getting people registered, getting them to the polls and fundraising, he really is a slacker.

[elleng]

51. 'Really!'

Thanks

[Hortensis]

8. This really IS good, and I'm glad.

But does anyone believe he isn't also feeding them his usual deluded negativism about mainstream Democrats?

I'm one, and to put it mildly I don't appreciate his 40 years of spreading his very mistaken versions of what I believe and stand for to gullible others. At various times people who believe as he does get the most for their exposure by echoing the same poison right-wing and Russian agents spread about us, and other times it's those who maximize their effects by augmenting his messages to the left.

This comes from someone who looked very seriously at him when he stepped forward after Senator Warren declined to run. I hoped he would be someone I could support. Everything I know about him came from reading all I could find about him then, and after by witnessing his own statements and other behaviors. Now I would never be foolish enough to trust him or to believe he is not at base exactly the kind of very unwise and foolish man who can be used by Russia and our own right wing to defeat Democrats and progressivism itself.

[Magoo48]

25. Sure would be nice to see some "mainstream" Democratic Senators doing the same thing.

So, thank you, Bernie. If some other Senators are out there amongst the young and I missed it, well, kudos to them as well.

[Hortensis]

39. Yes, they're doing many other things, including talking at

many colleges and universities, but I wish they were leading marchers on the streets to the polls in many states. That would be a great visual -- for voting.

I'm afraid for very good reason of what Sanders might do in 2020, though, so I dislike everything he does to get himself in front of the cameras. I hope you realize, we MUST get the power the authoritarian white supremacist Republicans gained in 2016 back, and more, if we are to save our democracy and stop the grave injuries to many that have begun.

[LiberalLovinLug]

67. Glad you are on board for this time at least

I still am puzzled by some Democrat voters that want to slap away the hand one of our most popular allies.

"I dislike everything he does to get himself in front of the cameras" These are the things he does in front of the camera! Or giving speeches against Trump. Or sponsoring Medicare-for-All bills with Kamala Harris. Occasionally he pipes up about how the Democratic party could improve, especially if he is asked the question. So what? I'll never get the vitriol against that man.

[Hortensis]

72. Tell me, since Trump was elected, we never heard anything about

all those lawsuits filed against state Democratic parties claiming they cheated the trailing candidate out of victories. Looking forward to 2020, this subject could be an important one if there's anything to it because it could be used by anyone to attack Democrats, or re-anger those who believed and felt unable to support Democrats before because of it, and lose us the 2020 election by their tiniest fraction.

I'm guessing you might have held views on that subject for many months. The law's so slow, of course, but maybe you know: How are those going? Are any of those lawsuits accusing our state Democratic Parties of election theft still open, dragging along? Were they all dropped after Trump was elected -- before the discovery phase would have required evidence be produced, or did one of them finally go to trial and what was the verdict? (With 2020 in mind, please let it be in favor of the state Democratic Party!)

Oh, dear, forgot -- there was also consideration, explained to the national media each time, of possibly filing against various other state Democratic parties claiming they also stole elections when the trailing candidate got less than 51% of the vote. Anything come of those threats since Trump took office and sucked all the oxygen out of the press room?

LiberalLovin, to be a true progressive, one has to commit to achieve progress. ACTIONS, not words, not power seeking. I don't doubt Sanders' sincerity in believing he's the One True Progressive in congress, only his judgement, understanding, honesty, and competence.

The Democratic Party is the progressive party. We progressives can't afford another big loss. Progressivism itself is on the line. Convince me that those who failed our nation have learned a dreadful lesson and become committed to restoring true progressives, almost all of whom are Democrats, to state and national power, and I'll be much less afraid looking ahead.

[femmedem]

50. Gillum was a delegate for Hillary.

I doubt he is doing anything here except supporting Democrats and encouraging young adults to begin a lifelong habit of voting.

[aikoaiko]

54. For some of us, Bernie's criticisms of the party is what we want.

It give us hope for improvement that someone is discussing it.

[LiberalLovinLug]

66. Exactly. For the life of me, I don't see why all the knee jerk reaction to that.

[mudstump]

16. Yeah....he only..

gives speeches, sometimes two a day, marches, and gets people to the polls...God..I wish he would do more.

[AllyCat]

18. After all, he isn't a Democrat

Yet he sure seems to have his hands in the process to help them. Hmmm.

[Fix The Stupid]

4. try harder...

[littlemissmartypants]

12. Very good questions. I suspect that you would have to be privy

To any conversations the two of them may have had to discuss your suggestions. Maybe they don't "get along" and that's why. Good questions, though.

[littlemissmartypants]

37. Some battles are just not worth trying to fight, SolidBlueDem.

This may be one of them. Keep the faith. ♡ lmsp

[Arazi]

15. Ah yes the old "not good enough Bernie" ploy

Well done

*golf clap*

[Nanjeanne]

46. Here's a thought? Maybe Nelson doesn't want him to. Perhaps Nelson doesn't feel he needs Sanders.

[red dog 1]

22. You're right! - Imo, Sanders should campaign for both, since he's in Florida anyway

Welcome to DU!

[murielm99]

32. Right.

When I canvas in my area, I may go with a candidate, but I bring literature for all the other Democrats who are running, and I make sure the voters know that we should vote for all of them. It would have been nice to see signs for all the other Democrats running down there, but especially Nelson.

[littlemissmartypants]

38. Careful there, pilgrim.

[LanternWaste]

7. Glad to see the establishment politicians working their GOTV routines.

[JCanete]

9. to which you never responded to my follow up post. Your version of "establishment"

may be endearing to you, but it doesn't sell me.

[JCanete]

24. I'll give you that there is an establishment aspect to being a straight white older male.

Other than that, fuck yes you can get a lot more establishment than Sanders. Its pretty indicative of somebody who is establishment to actually get all teh support of that establishment. Clinton got that. Sanders didn't get that.

Planned Parenthood, because everything is politics has had to cozy up to candidates who are most likely to win, is beholden to the establishment. This is splitting hairs because they are certainly not going to support candidate who do their organization or their principles harm, but they've also spent years and decades cultivating relationships with powerful senators so that they can make the biggest impact. It could literally be damaging to then support a less likely candidate in a GE. There are all kinds of establishment aspects to that. If you want to pretend that politics aren't a factor, well feel free.

[murielm99]

28. But Sanders went to Washington

a couple of years before the Clintons. How is it that the Clintons "got that," (your words) and Bernie did not? He is more establishment than the Clintons. And I question that anyway. Sanders wins his Senate seat time after time because the Democrats do not run any viable candidates against him. They concede the seat to him.

Bernie has spent a lifetime earning his living as a politician. How can anything be more establishment than that?

And how is establishment a bad thing? We need the establishment to regain power and defeat the rise of fascism in this country. We need powerful, established experienced DEMOCRATS winning and running things.

Planned Parenthood is "not going to support candidate (sic) who do their organization or principles harm." Neither am I.

[JCanete]

42. How? What math are you doing? You get to be part of the establishment by embracing business as usual

by doing the right kind of backscratching and having basically teh same sensibilities as the majority when it comes to how government should run, which interests should be prioritized, etc. Sanders didn't achieve that because he doesn't have the same philosophy as many of our other leaders, and thus in some ways, isn't in the club.

Establishment is a bad thing if its regressive, if it holds to tenets that the rich are meritorious and that we just need a slightly kinder and gentler system of charity and safety-nets for the rest of us, if you hold to the belief that you have to court big money to win, and that somehow miraculously that isn't reflected in the politics that prevail, which will be regressive...which will continue to protect the property and future profits of the rich.

As to planned parenthood, they endorsed sanders in his Senate race, so I guess they don't see him as doing them harm.

[murielm99]

57. Math? Math?

It sure as hell ain't Berniemath.

[LiberalLovinLug]

68. Very well put. I wish we could have this discussion more in here. But its walking on thin ice.

The needle now is so far to the right that we must now put all our efforts into just getting anyone with a D elected next week.

One sad thing about Hillary not being elected is that the starting point to the race would have been further up the road. Progressives would still be pushing her and the rest of the establishment to loosen their grip on reliance on big business, and getting flack for our troubles, but at least the light at the end would've been brighter.

[JCanete]

69. yeah, it really is too bad, and post convention I was pretty hopeful, given the moves

Clinton and the DNC had been publicly making to assure Sanders voters that we would be making some bold steps.

[LiberalLovinLug]

71. Yup. that was what was so brilliant about Sanders waiting as long as he could to concede.

He got a more progressive platform from Hillary in the end. And no, that was not the reason she "lost".

[JCanete]

73. completely agree. nt

[betsuni]

45. What does "beholden to the establishment" mean?

[JCanete]

47. It means there could be political risk to favoring a less likely primary candidate.

It isn't politically saavy to endorse somebody who you think may not win over somebody who you know holds a great deal of political power currently. Whether or not there are consequences for making this choice, its still typically not the way you do things. Also coming late to the party can be harmful, so while some on the left begrudge Warren for not endorsing Sanders even though their priorites seem most in alignment, it was still a decision that may have had a chilly recdeption among the more connected cadre of democrats. I'm not suggesting that there's any blatant, and maybe not even any intentional backlash for doing these things, but it still colors you and your organization in the eyes of those you are going to be working with.

[George II]

56. Say what? On the one hand you espouse principle and then talk about.....

...."political saavy" to not endorse someone who holds a great deal of political power.

But what you say is somewhat correct, "the left" (that undefined entity out there) wasn't happy with Elizabeth Warren making a particular endorsement. But the fact is that at the time Elizabeth Warren was a loyal Democrat, and she endorsed another loyal Democrat, which is what loyal Democrats do.

As we've learned, there actually was zero backlash toward Warren for her endorsement.

By the way, I see you refer to "your organization", which I presume is the Democratic Party (correct me if I'm wrong). Just exactly is "YOUR organization"? Not the Democratic Party?

[JCanete]

62. Elizabeth Warren waited to endorse Clinton. She held out and didn't weigh in. I'm pretty sure

that whether you and I trust our politicians to do the right thing or not, we can agree that just in general terms, its better to get there first than to be the latecomer if the purpose is to demonstrate your loyalty. To Warren's credit she waited until it was pretty clear that Sanders could not pull out an upset, taking a position on the sidelines, that again, some people on the left decried because they thought she should be weighing in for Sanders, but politics being politics, I appreciated her at least abstaining until that time, and I think she was the only Democrat to do so.

So just to be clear, I did not say it was politically saavy to not endorse the person with the most power.

I'm pretty sure that I was speaking generally of any organization, which is why I was using "your organization." hypothetical "your organization" which in this case was standing in for something like Planned Parenthood, and its decision to not stay on the sidelines.

[George II]

63. Warren didn't "hold out", she did what many national Democratic figures do, she remained neutral...

....until the outcome was decided. Most prominent Democrats stay out of endorsing primary candidates until that time.

Right after the final major primaries were over on June 7 Warren endorsed Clinton - on June 9. By the way, Barack Obama also stayed out until the outcome had been decided, he endorsed Clinton too.

Prominent Democrats generally don't stick their noses in the middle of primaries between members of their own party. They rarely, if ever, endorse one Democrat over another, and even more rarely actively campaign for one Democrat running against another Democrat in a primary.

It happens, but very very rarely.

[JCanete]

64. rare?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/12/politics/elizabeth-warren-2016-endorsement/index.html

[questionseverything]

36. on a day we are burying jews ,targeted because they were jewish

I would not slander him like that

but that's just me

I will forever be grateful for Bernie inserting,

HEALTHCARE IS A HUMAN RIGHT

into the national dialogue

[democrank]

10. Kicking for Bernie and the voters

VOTE!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

11. K&R!

[disillusioned73]

13. Keep doing what your doing Bernie..

[jalan48]

14. Bernie's The Man!

[zentrum]

17. Thank you Bernie!

[Donkees]

19. Video Clip:

Link to tweet

[Donkees]

20. Photos:

Link to tweet

[red dog 1]

23. K&R

[handmade34]

29. awesome!

go Bernie, go students, go democrats....

[Cuthbert Allgood]

30. God damnit, Bernie, I wish you'd stop...oh, wait...

guess this is something that nobody on DU is going to complain about.

(Pretty sure I'll be proven wrong.)

[Blue_playwright]

34. Ok am I the only one who teared up? Nt

[Marie Marie]

35. Thank you Bernie.

[Carl45]

41. Excellent !!!

Thank you so much Bernie

[KCDebbie]

43. [Looks at photo] Holy CRAP!

Go Bernie!

[Politicub]

44. This is wonderful!

I’ve said a lot of crap about Bernie but he is a hero by doing this.

[Donkees]

48. Videos:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[katmondoo]

49. How about Nelson the Democrat instead of the Horrible Scott

We need Nelson in the Senate

[ornotna]

58. See post 20. n/t

[MaryMagdaline]

52. Great job, Bernie!

He’s 70 plus years old working his tail off for all of us. Thank you!!

[klook]

53. Great!

Sen. Sanders has clout with younger voters. Glad to see he is using it to help get Andrew Gillum elected!

[BlueDog22]

55. Awesome

Things like this help drive turnout in our favor!

[peekaloo]

59. Word is he crawled up their backsides for not having voted yet at USF

Thank you Bernie.

[Donkees]

60. ''It's also the first time in four years since students can cast their votes early on campus. ''

UCF students grateful to have early voting location on campus

It's also the first time in four years since students can cast their votes early on campus.

"It's great because it's convenient," said UCF senior Patrick Bonbrisco. "I live right up the street so it's nice to be able to come up here and cast your vote."

Back in 2014, Florida's Secretary of State Ken Detzner put a ban on early voting locations on campus. However, after college campuses in the state filed suit, U.S. District Judge Mark Walker called the ban unconstitutional in July. He said it appeared to be done to stop younger voters from casting ballots.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/early-voting-underway-in-florida

[peekaloo]

61. I don't know how many at UCF are registered but it's a YUGE campus.

[Demovictory9]

65. love it

[workinclasszero]

70. Thanks Bernie!

Keep going till election day!