Had HRC been allowed to occupy the Oval Office, as per the people's will

[ehrnst]

those 11 people would be alive.

I have no doubt about this at all.

Elections have consequences. We need to get out the fucking vote for Democrats, and yes I mean any Democrat who is running.

[machoneman]

1. Yes, you are correct, sadly.

None of this IMHO would have occurred if HRC had won the electoral vote I'm quite sure.

[onit2day]

27. She is the people's elected president. But any other person as president

the murders would not have occurred.

[Bfd]

2. Babies at the border would be with their mamas.

Gorsuch & Kavanaugh & the 100 Federal judges would not be apptd.

Fairness Doctrine restored & improved
National Voting Registration & Holiday
Citizen's United under attack & on its way out.
Human rights across the board, strengthened
Magnitsky enhanced
Our Allies & global respect strengthened
Offshore tax havens scrutinized
Solar power grid builds across the nation
Fossil fuels curbed

And so much more to move the US towards readiness for the future
These 11 would be living their lives today
A functioning nation built on wise, fair & good governance.

[Ferrets are Cool]

18. This

[onit2day]

28. America the beautiful appears very ugly under Trump as he wants to scare women and children refugees

asking for safety and help. I would like to have a blue hat with the letters MABA...Make America Beautiful Again as Trump has made America so ugly in so many ways.

[Sherman A1]

3. As much as I would like to agree with you

we really have no way of knowing. There were a significant number of mass shootings during Obama's term. Hateful people do not seem to care who is in the Oval Office.

[ehrnst]

4. There would have been no "Soros is funding this caravan!" conspiracy theory spread from the WH.

There would not have been the normalization of White Nationalism.

[RhodeIslandOne]

14. Sorry, but there is a deep cancer in this country

If Trump had lost, this guy and dozens of others would still become unhinged over who knows what else. The Republican party will never end their scare tactics, ever.

[Sherman A1]

15. Coming from the White House

No there wouldn’t have been. That said, there were plenty of Soros conspiracy theories about in the past. This has been going on for a long time.

[Cha]

5. I wholeheartedly agree.

Maybe even the MAGA BOMBER wouldn't have sent the Bombs to our brilliant Dems.

[unblock]

6. there's no doubt in my mind that right-wing violence would have escalated either way.

if they couldn't handle a black president, there's no way they were going to be able to handle a woman president, especially both being democrats.

donnie might have been defeated, but neither he nor foxnews would have gone away. they would have been out there stoking outrage, coming up with ever more false accusations against hillary, angrily calling for her impeachment even before inauguration.

can't say as to these specific people, but there certainly would have been a number of violent incidents either way.


it will only stop when we can de-legitimize foxnews and hate radio and right-wing violence-baiting and find a solution to the mass killing epidemic.

[Sherman A1]

16. Precisely

This didn’t just start with Trump.

[BigmanPigman]

7. No doubt.

So many things would be "normal" and I would be able to sleep at night.

[sheshe2]

8. Yes.

[Rizen]

9. Elections have consequences

Exactly! I've said just that to non-voters and green party people who try to pull false equivalency BS. Some people will never get it.

[demigoddess]

10. yes, I believe so.

[Sparkly]

11. .

[ffr]

12. Glad to K&R. NO MORE REPUBLICANS!

None!

The worst, least experienced no-name democrat is a billion times better than any possible republican candidate on the ballot.

[ZeroSomeBrains]

13. K&R

Vote blue no matter who

[thegoose]

17. The hateful insanity

from the MAGAs may still have happened BUT will have been curtailed. Because she will have addressed the problem like a stateswoman. She would have tamped down the hate, at least somewhat. That's what a leader does. They all hated the magnificent Obama, but he managed to tone them down, at least somewhat.

This ridiculous orange piece of shit is a fucking rabble rousing baby who wants the flames to blaze. He wants everyone to die as revenge for his own shortcomings. Dumpster, we don't care about your life. Don't take it out on America.

The longer he's allowed to use the United States as his vomit-filled playpen is the worse for us. Pundits keep asking if he's doing this shit on purpose. No — he's a brain-dead monster set on "destroy". Permanently.

Time to go to jail, you worthless fucking asshole.

[Beartracks]

19. Yes, any Democrat! We need as many D's in Congress as possible. n/t

[lunamagica]

20. ICAM. I have absolutely no doubt that what you say is true. That's why I felt gut-punched

on election night at about ten two years ago, when I realized he would be the one in the Withe House. It physically hurt. It was a pain caused by the fear, the realization I had that for many, many people, the night would end with a death sentence...and many other would perhaps survive, but with their lives destroyed.

What horrible, horrible times we're living.

[Snake Plissken]

21. I have absolutely no doubt those 11 people would be alive but ...

How many other people would Trump's insane cult have killed?

I don't not think for a minute that Trump, Fox News, or right wing talk radio would have stopped inciting these people into violence regardless of who is in the Oval Office.

This problem goes a lot deeper than just who is in the White House, this right wing mob is being controlled by the Republican elite to continue allowing them to steal our wealth.

The one thing we all know for certain is our country would be moving in a better direction and our judicial system would be in much better shape along with our justice department.

[world wide wally]

22. We can't say for sure what may have happened or not happened if Hillary was in the WH.

But we can say for sure what has happened with Trump there, and it couldn't suck worse.

[47of74]

23. And instead of worrying about our country being destroyed we'd be picking fun at...

...the Republicans and their sad antics of the week.

[marehare]

24. If Hillay was our president

If Maggie Haberman and Susan Sarandan hadn't attacked Hillary so badly while praising trump we wouldn't have had kids in cages, etc etc, etc.

When you can't vote for a candidate because she a woman, don't speak to me ever.
Vote Blue for every position, in city, county, state and federal elections. The GOP plan to attack our constitution if they get 2/3's of all the states under their control. Then we're totally screwed.
Get off your butt and vote Blue. Our country's future depends on it.

[keithbvadu2]

25. Where is the 'safety' Trump promised?

Why is Trump 'allowing' violence done to Americans?

When Trump accepted the GOP nomination:

"I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end," he said. "Beginning on January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/politics/republican-convention-highlights-day-four/index.html

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[R B Garr]

26. Excellent thread! I totally agree with you.