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no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 05:59 PM Oct 2018

Trump's promised Executive Order (Birthright Citizenship)

Does this mean that birth certificates won't be issued if the mother is not an American citizen?

Will the mother and child be subject to deportation after a week (or whatever time limit set)?

If Trump is allowed to ignore the Constitution and make lawful acts unlawful, why would he stop? Why not "improve" the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, etc.?

Would the current Supreme Court overrule Madison v. Marbury and let another branch of the government be the final arbiter of interpreting the Constitution?

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Trump's promised Executive Order (Birthright Citizenship) (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Oct 2018 OP
He's just trying to rile up his base manor321 Oct 2018 #1
I do not think this is just a temporary move. pangaia Oct 2018 #4
I don't think Trump will easily give up the chance ... lpbk2713 Oct 2018 #5
Kavanaugh or not, I don't see Justice Roberts going along with this htuttle Oct 2018 #2
May you live in interesting times. Cary Oct 2018 #3
This was adopted by the citizens of Massachusets in 1780.... suston96 Oct 2018 #6
The 2nd Amendment has already been "improved" Crunchy Frog Oct 2018 #7
Trump's own kids... Mad cow Oct 2018 #8
This is theater mcar Oct 2018 #9
Won't hear a word about it after the midterms. GulfCoast66 Oct 2018 #10
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. He's just trying to rile up his base
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 06:01 PM
Oct 2018

We won't hear of this (or the caravan) again after the midterms.

Would the current Supreme Court overrule Madison v. Marbury and let another branch of the government be the final arbiter of interpreting the Constitution?

No way the five conservative judges would yield that power to a President who might be a Democrat in 2020.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
5. I don't think Trump will easily give up the chance ...
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 06:11 PM
Oct 2018



to make brown peoples' lives miserable. He will persist because he enjoys it.

suston96

(4,175 posts)
6. This was adopted by the citizens of Massachusets in 1780....
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 06:18 PM
Oct 2018

....yes, 10 years before the federal constitution. It is the oldest, living and working constitution on the planet. From the Declaration of Rights of the Massachusets constitution:
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XXX.--In the government of this Commonwealth, the legislative department shall never exercise the executive [Volume 1, Page 14] and judicial powers, or either of them: The executive shall never exercise the legislative and judicial powers, or either of them: The judicial shall never exercise the legislative and executive powers, or either of them: to the end it may be a government of laws and not of men.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
7. The 2nd Amendment has already been "improved"
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 07:14 PM
Oct 2018

By effectively deleting the clause about "a well ordered militia".

Mad cow

(92 posts)
8. Trump's own kids...
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 07:20 PM
Oct 2018

Interestingly, Ivana became a citizen AFTER the birth of Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka. Baron was born in March 2006 and Melania became a citizen in 2006. That adds a whole new layer of hypocrisy to his ridiculous idea.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
10. Won't hear a word about it after the midterms.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 08:28 PM
Oct 2018

Unless issued prior in which case it will promptly be overturned.

This is the dream of the most extreme of his racist base. He is all in on winning the midterms by getting all of them out.

If polling does not improve look for him to drop a racial epithet on Sunday or Monday.

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