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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:47 PM Oct 2018

Trump May Have Just Fucked Up BIGLY

This morning it was reported that a story was going to be coming out in the next couple of days as a smear against Mueller involving fabricated scandalous claims by former 'colleagues'. The reporter of that story had kept track of who an individual was paying and how much (he said he had the 'receipts'). It looks like he or someone else turned this information over to the FBI and now it's become part of the Mueller investigation itself.

That tells me one thing: someone in the Trump administration was behind this.

And it makes sense. Trump seems to project onto others exactly what is wrong with him and he seems to use tactics that he perceives as damaging and effective. For example, Trump almost lost his supreme court nominee due to allegations of sexual assault brought up against that nominee. At one point during the nomination process, Trump was even starting to distance himself from Kavanaugh. Trump may have thought it was an effective move and had hopes that it would derail the Mueller investigation.

What reporter would risk his own freedom by interfering with a Federal investigation by trying to smear the special prosecutor of that investigation? NONE. So that means it had to be one of Trump's cronies. The reporter who exposed this plot this morning knows who that person was. And that person is going to do the exact same thing that all the other indictees have done: sing like a bird.

If Trump had anything to do with it, Mueller is going to find out. And I'd put money on it that he did.

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Trump May Have Just Fucked Up BIGLY (Original Post) berni_mccoy Oct 2018 OP
They did it to Franken and thought they could pull it off against Mueller. brush Oct 2018 #1
GM tried this against Ralph Nader - and it blew up in their faces. lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #30
Exactly!....and this is why Franken's own call to be investigated sdfernando Oct 2018 #32
Exactly. That's why I would never vote for Gilliland unless . . . MrModerate Oct 2018 #53
Hell,, I'd vote for any of my cats before I'd ever vote for drumpf. lark Oct 2018 #54
My thinking exactly. They got Franken so try to get Mueller. bitterross Oct 2018 #47
I wouldn't doubt it. brush Oct 2018 #48
Spanky has an enormous stake in smearing Mueller. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2018 #2
I've been wondering about the Surprise. malthaussen Oct 2018 #11
It's a poor attempt if that is what it is. berni_mccoy Oct 2018 #42
Trump is the epitome of opportunism. gordianot Oct 2018 #3
So this story is a fake plant? AJT Oct 2018 #4
Yes, it has already been referred by the Special Counsel berni_mccoy Oct 2018 #10
I think you're right; Jane Mayer (New Yorker) says it's a hoax More_Cowbell Oct 2018 #16
A triple-negative double-agent quintuple-crossing hoax? lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #31
Seriously! Let's see if we can untangle it Maeve Oct 2018 #37
"troubling priest" Flavin102 Oct 2018 #5
Sounds like something Roger Stone and his Crew would do. Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #6
Roger Stone and his crew have a lot on their plate at this moment Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #12
A snake with tits? Now THAT'S a mixed metaphor! Nitram Oct 2018 #21
And they have a cloaca, too Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #22
No, a cloaca is an orifice that combines the sexual and excretory functions. Nitram Oct 2018 #26
BA enid602 Oct 2018 #34
Also in Latin n/t dragonlady Oct 2018 #55
Naturalists and physicians borrowed heavily from Roman and Greek mythology and vocabulary when Nitram Nov 2018 #56
Question is though is Burkman really the person behind it or is he simply cstanleytech Oct 2018 #23
That's a reasonable question... Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #29
Jacob Wohl has also been linked to this. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #44
Both were not ready for prime time Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #45
Bouncy, bouncy, bouncy Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #46
old republican tactic called ratfucking elmac Oct 2018 #14
Thanks,was going to use the same phrase. Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #15
Ok, correction, Trump Ratfuckedup Bigly. berni_mccoy Oct 2018 #20
Him or Jr. 2naSalit Oct 2018 #7
The man* with the manure touch does it again. Jack Burkman catches the turd this time. Hassler Oct 2018 #8
Mueller's office cut it off at the knees by reported it to the Justice Department before.... George II Oct 2018 #9
chumpy Fucks Up Bigly Every Day Leith Oct 2018 #13
I was going to say...!!! ailsagirl Oct 2018 #28
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2018 #17
Seen this headline 100 times, still he persists! BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #18
This has dirtbag James O'Keefe written all over it, and if it is him Snake Plissken Oct 2018 #19
This totally stinks of Okeefe. nt Lucky Luciano Oct 2018 #24
Nah, O'Keefe would'a had some woman dressed to the nines and coming on to Muller while the tape was 3Hotdogs Oct 2018 #49
I don't believe any journos in "legitimate" media would go along with this FakeNoose Oct 2018 #25
Roger Stone moosewhisperer Oct 2018 #27
It's Mueller's turn to be in the barrel,... magicarpet Oct 2018 #33
Mueller on blackout till after election... lame54 Oct 2018 #35
I think Mueller will take that under consideration berni_mccoy Oct 2018 #36
One thing you can ALWAYS count on right wingers to do is overstep. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #38
They were mentioning Rudy Guiliani. I wonder if the person worked at some company linked to him. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2018 #39
Jack Burkman is the GOP activist rightwing nut who orchestrated this Mueller smear wishstar Oct 2018 #40
Seems like one nasty dude berni_mccoy Oct 2018 #41
He's either going to sing like a bird, or go flying out of a tall building's window, first. C Moon Oct 2018 #43
You're all gonna be surprised when you find out it was Mother's idea after all. 3Hotdogs Oct 2018 #50
This idiotic exercise was the stifllborn brainchild of one Jacob Wohl. BobTheSubgenius Oct 2018 #51
Well, taking down Mueller over an accusation would be inconsistent ecstatic Oct 2018 #52

brush

(53,784 posts)
1. They did it to Franken and thought they could pull it off against Mueller.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:53 PM
Oct 2018

WRONG!

Mueller has too much power and can fight back. Plus there's the fear factor. Someone recruited got cold feet.

I know I wouldn't try lying against Mueller.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
30. GM tried this against Ralph Nader - and it blew up in their faces.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:18 PM
Oct 2018

Same reason - it's ineffective against a boy scout.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
32. Exactly!....and this is why Franken's own call to be investigated
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:26 PM
Oct 2018

should have been done and completed. It would have shown these allegations had no merit...Instead, Kristen Gilibrand lead the effort on the Democratic side to get Franken out. I don't know if I could ever vote for her because I don't trust her.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
53. Exactly. That's why I would never vote for Gilliland unless . . .
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 08:02 AM
Oct 2018

She was running against Donald Trump.

lark

(23,102 posts)
54. Hell,, I'd vote for any of my cats before I'd ever vote for drumpf.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:04 AM
Oct 2018

They are far less destructive and when they were younger we called them the Destromites because they'd run through the house, up and over tables & furniture and anything in their way would go flying. They were still far less destructive, more intelligent & caring than him with nowhere near the hate, criminality and treason factor that defines orange assmouth.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
47. My thinking exactly. They got Franken so try to get Mueller.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 10:26 PM
Oct 2018

I wonder if this trail also leads back to Roger Stone. Like the Franken one did.

malthaussen

(17,200 posts)
11. I've been wondering about the Surprise.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 02:32 PM
Oct 2018

Not much time left in October for it. Unless Kavanaugh was it. But that was no surprise.

-- Mal

AJT

(5,240 posts)
4. So this story is a fake plant?
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:56 PM
Oct 2018

So the Mueller story was supposed to be a plant?
That the whole thing about women being paid off is a lie to discredit the media who report it? That is how I read this.

Per Natasha Bertrand

wasn't going to report on this, but I think my fears are coming true. Based on information 
that I am privy to, I believe false accusations will be spread about Mueller in order to discredit 
him and possibly the journalists who are preparing this story. 

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
31. A triple-negative double-agent quintuple-crossing hoax?
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:19 PM
Oct 2018

Too confusing to follow and therefore a big OOPS!

Sorry Trump, you failed again!

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
37. Seriously! Let's see if we can untangle it
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 06:07 PM
Oct 2018

To make the media look bad, the RWNJ floats a story that they are bribing some women to lie about Mueller. In reality, the woman claiming to have turned down the bribe doesn't actually exist and is, in fact, a hoax. Then the RWNJ hints that they plan to reveal bad things about Mueller and their idea is that the fake woman will have been sent out to lure the media down a rabbit hole.

BUT Mueller's people sent the whole mess to the FBI before the hoax could be revealed? And Worl even got his mommy involved with her phone number? And this make WHO look bad????
Lordy, but the Three Stooges would have tossed this plot line as too silly even for them!

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
12. Roger Stone and his crew have a lot on their plate at this moment
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 02:34 PM
Oct 2018

GOP activist, Jack Burkman, is the snake that got its proverbial tit caught in the wringer on this one. Looks like there will be some easy dots to connect.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
22. And they have a cloaca, too
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:01 PM
Oct 2018

I have been told a cloaca is simply a fancy name for anus.

And speaking of anus' and dots, it looks like Rick Gates is the connection between the orange anus and Jack Burkman.

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
26. No, a cloaca is an orifice that combines the sexual and excretory functions.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:09 PM
Oct 2018

And only mammals have....wait for it...mammary glands.

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
56. Naturalists and physicians borrowed heavily from Roman and Greek mythology and vocabulary when
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:07 AM
Nov 2018

naming parts of the body. E.g. "mons veneris."

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
23. Question is though is Burkman really the person behind it or is he simply
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:05 PM
Oct 2018

the front man meant to take the fall in the event that it was exposed for someone inside the Trump administration/family in order to protect them from charges of obstruction of justice.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
29. That's a reasonable question...
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:13 PM
Oct 2018

and we might learn the answer when some of the dots are connected. Here's hoping Burkman's check cleared the bank and it was huuuge.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
44. Jacob Wohl has also been linked to this.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 09:16 PM
Oct 2018

His company, Surefire Intelligence, has a shadowy hand in this, too. Wohl is a 20-year old disgraced former hedge fund manager, sanctioned by the SEC and banned for life from a securities exchange. He turned into a butt-trumpet when his life unraveled.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
45. Both were not ready for prime time
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 09:25 PM
Oct 2018

I understand the orange anus already stopped payment on their post-dated checks.

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
7. Him or Jr.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 02:09 PM
Oct 2018

If you haven't seen or heard 30 seconds (if you can stomach that much) of minime's campaign vitriol, you would think that the cheato himself was a weak example for Hitler and Mussolini where Jr. sounds like he's been taking acting lessons from them.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Mueller's office cut it off at the knees by reported it to the Justice Department before....
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 02:27 PM
Oct 2018

....it came out.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
13. chumpy Fucks Up Bigly Every Day
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 02:44 PM
Oct 2018

He gets out of everything by shouting that he didn't do anything, then shouting the same several more times, louder each time. The spineless media will chalk it up to one side says this and the other side says something else.

Just add this latest example to the list.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
19. This has dirtbag James O'Keefe written all over it, and if it is him
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 03:17 PM
Oct 2018

I hope he goes to prison for a long, long, long, time.

3Hotdogs

(12,384 posts)
49. Nah, O'Keefe would'a had some woman dressed to the nines and coming on to Muller while the tape was
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 11:41 PM
Oct 2018

rolling.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
25. I don't believe any journos in "legitimate" media would go along with this
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:06 PM
Oct 2018

By legitimate I mean the nationally recognized news media that's not Faux News. The real credentialed journalists are all onto him now. This isn't 2015 any more. They won't be used by the orange asshole, they'd rather turn him in.

moosewhisperer

(114 posts)
27. Roger Stone
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:09 PM
Oct 2018

This has Stone's fingerprints all over it. Seeing as how he'll be one of the next to be taken down by Mueller, it sounds like his desperate attempt to wriggle out of impending charges. Fucker.

magicarpet

(14,154 posts)
33. It's Mueller's turn to be in the barrel,...
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:41 PM
Oct 2018

'Cept trDump's and Stone's ass are going to get fried and their gooses cooked.

lame54

(35,292 posts)
35. Mueller on blackout till after election...
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 05:24 PM
Oct 2018

But smear campaigns against him before the election are fair game

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
36. I think Mueller will take that under consideration
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 05:56 PM
Oct 2018

When he goes after these enemies of the state.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
38. One thing you can ALWAYS count on right wingers to do is overstep.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 06:34 PM
Oct 2018

They work the long game. They are ruthless and cheat. They seem to out play liberals all the time because they do not play by the rules. They mess a lot of things up and leave a mess along the way. The problem with false entitlement however is that it almost ALWAYS leads you to overplay your hand, to overstep. Trump truly believes that he is "Teflon Don". Gotti was called "The Teflon Don" and he ended up dying in prison. Hopefully Trump will end up like Mr. Gotti.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
40. Jack Burkman is the GOP activist rightwing nut who orchestrated this Mueller smear
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 06:47 PM
Oct 2018

This article explaining it all just came out in the Atlantic by Natasha Bertrand who covers all things Mueller/Russia related.

"A company that appears to be run by a pro-Trump conspiracy theorist offered to pay women to make false claims against Special Counsel Robert Mueller in the days leading up to the midterm elections—and the special counsel’s office has asked the FBI to weigh in. “When we learned last week of allegations that women were offered money to make false claims about the Special Counsel, we immediately referred the matter to the FBI for investigation,” the Mueller spokesman Peter Carr told me in an email on Tuesday.

The special-counsel office’s attention to this scheme and its decision to release a rare statement about it indicates the seriousness with which the team is taking the purported plot to discredit Mueller in the middle of an ongoing investigation. Carr confirmed that the allegations were brought to the office’s attention by several journalists, who were contacted by a woman who identified herself as Lorraine Parsons. Another woman, Jennifer Taub, contacted Mueller's office earlier this month with similar information.


"Burkman, a conservative radio host, is known for spreading conspiracy theories. He launched his own private investigation into the murder of the Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich, dangled uncorroborated claims of sexual harassment against a sitting member of Congress, and earlier this year offered $25,000 to FBI whistle-blowers for any information exposing wrongdoing during the 2016 election. He also promoted legislation that he authored—despite not being a member of Congress—that would ban gays from playing in the National Football League. And he’s hosted two fund-raisers for Rick Gates—the former Trump-campaign official who was indicted by Mueller late last year."

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/special-counsel-refers-scheme-targeting-mueller-to-fbi/574411/

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
51. This idiotic exercise was the stifllborn brainchild of one Jacob Wohl.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 12:05 AM
Oct 2018

You should look up the story. This kid makes James O'Keefe look like a Rhodes scholar.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
52. Well, taking down Mueller over an accusation would be inconsistent
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 12:16 AM
Oct 2018

with trump's repeated claims about men being unfairly accused. I know his supporters are idiots who would go along with anything, but I think this would be way too soon an about face, even for them. Was he counting on us "evil" democrats to do his dirty work? Again, still would look hypocritical considering how he completely ignored the outrage over Kavanaugh. In order for his plot to have any chance of working, he would have needed to kick K under the bus (at the very least).

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