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Mr. Sparkle

(2,932 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 11:24 AM Oct 2018

Looks Like Someone May Be Planning False Sexual Assault Accusations Against Robert Mueller

An unknown person or organization appears to be planning a series of false sexual misconduct allegations in an effort to smear Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Independent investigative journalist Scott Stedman whose writing has appeared in The Guardian, first alerted the world to the work being done in a series of tweets during the early morning hours on Tuesday. At 1:05 a.m. he wrote:

*I wasn’t going to report on this, but I think my fears are coming true. Based on information that I am privy to, I believe false accusations will be spread about Mueller in order to discredit him and possibly the journalists who are preparing this story.*

At least two mainstream journalists appear to have confirmed some aspects of the above story. The Atlantic‘s Natasha Bertrand and Jane Mayer .

"Two weeks ago, I was contacted by a woman who claimed to be a former associate of Mueller who said that she got a phone call from a man working on behalf of a GOP operative who was paying women to come forward to make up sexual assault allegations."

Additional tweets pieced the story together further. Stedman said he “chased down leads” but did not find the woman to be reliable. He did say he got in touch with the person who was allegedly offering money to accusers.
“He was extremely willing to confirm that he was indeed paying women to tell stories about Mueller,” Stedman wrote. “I concluded that this was an effort to discredit journalists working on the Trump-Russia story by planting a false story and see who would print it.” “I worked on this story and chased down leads, but found the woman to be very unreliable, Stedman wrote. “She wouldn’t get on the phone, she lied about journalists she was working with, etc. Furthermore, I got in contact with the man who allegedly was offering the money.”

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/looks-like-someone-may-be-planning-false-sexual-assault-accusations-against-robert-mueller/

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Looks Like Someone May Be Planning False Sexual Assault Accusations Against Robert Mueller (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle Oct 2018 OP
Roger Stone is a desperate, pathetic little man. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2018 #1
Yes he is. geardaddy Oct 2018 #34
Juanita Broaddrick needs to give up this game. nt DURHAM D Oct 2018 #2
It worked so well against Franken. nt R B Garr Oct 2018 #3
The accusations will not be believable. LuckyCharms Oct 2018 #4
The latter won't matter to them. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2018 #6
You're right, and what will happen is... LuckyCharms Oct 2018 #8
so did John Kerry ProfessorPlum Oct 2018 #11
I don't recall Kerry fighting against or challenging the swift boaters much. CrispyQ Oct 2018 #14
He had ALL his Navy records on his website karynnj Oct 2018 #35
Natasha Bertrand .... can confirm Botany Oct 2018 #5
+1 2naSalit Oct 2018 #33
Individuals linked to this story Qutzupalotl Oct 2018 #7
interesting NewJeffCT Oct 2018 #9
So they're gonna fuck with Mueller, eh? Blue Owl Oct 2018 #10
its officially called ratfucking and has been used by the cons since Nixon nt elmac Oct 2018 #18
Couldn't this be considered interference with an investigation? gibraltar72 Oct 2018 #12
Astute observation. Lock them up. watoos Oct 2018 #20
Absolutely. Maybe even a defamation conspiracy, which, if proven, could be a felony for all parties ancianita Oct 2018 #21
Playing with matches in the fireworks factory. nt Cognitive_Resonance Oct 2018 #26
Krassenstein's account Snellius Oct 2018 #13
As per Stedman, the FBI has already been notified on this shakedown attempt. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2018 #15
Heh. 11cents Oct 2018 #16
OH DANG he's pre-empting them! yodermon Oct 2018 #17
He was born in '44, married in '66, a litigator in '73. They're gonna have a helluva time finding ancianita Oct 2018 #19
It's not distraction bullshit watoos Oct 2018 #22
Okay. That, too. ancianita Oct 2018 #28
Article from The Atlantic. Bobby Three Sticks don't play. irisblue Oct 2018 #23
"Plant a false story and see who will print it." Ratfcking 101. Hekate Oct 2018 #24
No surprise, more lies saidsimplesimon Oct 2018 #25
this smells like ratfucking, sabotage or dirty tricks techniques used my republicans since the Nixon elmac Oct 2018 #27
You can bet your bottom dollar that Trump will make a move on Mueller during the Lame duck congress Le Gaucher Oct 2018 #29
ooops Sedona Oct 2018 #30
It has been referred to the FBI - woops indeed! getagrip_already Oct 2018 #31
--Jack Burkman, rightwing talk radio jackass. Hassler Oct 2018 #32
Didn't Lindsey graham threaten this exact thing? mercuryblues Oct 2018 #36

LuckyCharms

(17,440 posts)
4. The accusations will not be believable.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 11:29 AM
Oct 2018

Too fucking obvious in both content and timing.

In addition, the lunatics on the right will have to reverse everything they screamed about concerning the Kavanaugh accusations.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
6. The latter won't matter to them.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 11:36 AM
Oct 2018

Allegations made against a Republican or conservative = Witchhunt, no matter how substantiated they might be.

Allegations made against a Democrat or liberal (or principled non-partisan who might be investigating a Republican or conservative) = *Tears Robe* What further need do we have of witnesses?!?

LuckyCharms

(17,440 posts)
8. You're right, and what will happen is...
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 11:41 AM
Oct 2018

this will become the story until election day and beyond, and the media will focus almost entirely on this, and everyone will choose their sides, and the right will put out photo shopped memes of Mueller sexually abusing women.

But, in my mind, Mueller is totally unimpeachable and has a valiant past which shows actual, real bravery. It is my hope that this false story pulls at least a few of the right from the dark side, thus helping us in the election next week.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
35. He had ALL his Navy records on his website
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 02:35 PM
Oct 2018

He also spoke out before the firefighters union where he referenced the offficial Navy record -- which the liars contradicted without any proof.

He also had all but one of the men on any of his swiftboats with him - all disputing the liars.

The newspapers did cover the story and called out the liars, but the cable media and talk radio continued to give the liars enormous free time - even after they were caught in multiple lies. In some way, Kerry was hit by the media/culture change that has only increased since 2004. Incidentially, in 2008, it was Kerry who made the case for Obama to not go with public financing using his experience as the reason.

What he did NOT do was spend a large amount of money on ads to counter their ads. This was because they were in the general election period where Kerry had to stretch the same amount of public money over 13 weeks (starting with accepting the nomination) that Bush had for 8 weeks. As it was, they had to pull out of Co and Va a month before the election because they were short on money.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
5. Natasha Bertrand .... can confirm
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 11:35 AM
Oct 2018
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I wasn't going to report on this, but I think my fears are coming true. Based on information
that I am privy to, I believe false accusations will be spread about Mueller in order to discredit
him and possibly the journalists who are preparing this story.


2naSalit

(86,628 posts)
33. +1
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 02:13 PM
Oct 2018

Just read all that. They can't help but try every trick, even the most obvious, now because they are desperate. They thought they would have an easy time of it with their coup... turns out they were wrong.

Qutzupalotl

(14,312 posts)
7. Individuals linked to this story
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 11:40 AM
Oct 2018



Individuals linked to this are @JacobAWohl @Jack_Burkman Michael Wilcox, Ben Christenson. Appears to be an attempt to discredit the media.

My thoughts are that they are trying to do 3 things here. Discredit the media by having them report on something that's a total hoax, muddy the waters around Mueller and promote their own radio shows (Jack Burkman).

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
21. Absolutely. Maybe even a defamation conspiracy, which, if proven, could be a felony for all parties
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:38 PM
Oct 2018

Allegations are one thing. Paid allegations are something else entirely.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
15. As per Stedman, the FBI has already been notified on this shakedown attempt.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:02 PM
Oct 2018

This could very well backfire on Roger Stone and company in a very bad, bad way.







Scott Stedman? @ScottMStedman · 13m13 minutes ago

Peter Carr, Mueller's spokesman: "When we learned last week of allegations that women were offered money to make false claims about the Special Counsel, we immediately referred the matter to the FBI for investigation."

9:48 AM - 30 Oct 2018

11cents

(1,777 posts)
16. Heh.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:19 PM
Oct 2018
http://tinyurl.com/ybxvl5ad

(Natasha Bertrand in the Atlantic -- Mueller's office is investigating a scheme to pay off women for fabricating sexual assault claims against Mueller.)

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
17. OH DANG he's pre-empting them!
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:29 PM
Oct 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/30/mueller-accuses-opponents-of-offering-money-to-make-false-claims-about-him.html


Special counsel Robert Mueller accuses opponents of offering women money to make 'false claims' about him
Special counsel Robert Mueller has referred to the FBI allegations that women were "offered money" to make "false claims" about him, a spokesman said Tuesday.

Special counsel spokesman Peter Carr released this statement:

When we learned last week of allegations that women were offered money to make false claims about the Special Counsel, we immediately referred the matter to the FBI for investigation.

Mueller is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and possible coordination between the Kremlin and Trump's campaign.

Jack Burkman, a conservative commentator who claims to be a registered lobbyist, said in a tweet Tuesday that "we will reveal the first of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's sex assault victims." It was not immediately clear if the special counsel was referring to Burkman's claims.

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
19. He was born in '44, married in '66, a litigator in '73. They're gonna have a helluva time finding
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:36 PM
Oct 2018

someone with a reliable, credible story that fits with this busy, busy man's life activities.

The only women they'd be able to come up with are too old to even be bothered with the money they'd get paid. The rest are young enough to be his daughters.

The only thing Bertrand and Mayer will confirm is that the stories are false.

This is some distraction bullshit.

irisblue

(32,975 posts)
23. Article from The Atlantic. Bobby Three Sticks don't play.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:41 PM
Oct 2018

"An alleged scheme to pay off women to fabricate sexual assault allegations against Special Counsel Robert Mueller has been referred to the FBI for further investigation, according to a spokesman for the special counsel’s office, Peter Carr. “When we learned last week of allegations that women were offered money to make false claims about the Special Counsel, we immediately referred the matter to the FBI for investigation,” Carr said in a statement on Tuesday." First paragraph
Can be read at TheAtlantic.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
27. this smells like ratfucking, sabotage or dirty tricks techniques used my republicans since the Nixon
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:44 PM
Oct 2018

days

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
29. You can bet your bottom dollar that Trump will make a move on Mueller during the Lame duck congress
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 01:46 PM
Oct 2018

This is probably one of the building blocks

getagrip_already

(14,752 posts)
31. It has been referred to the FBI - woops indeed!
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 02:01 PM
Oct 2018
The FBI has been asked by special counsel Robert Mueller’s office to look into whether a group of Republican operatives has been offering women money to fabricate stories of sexual misconduct by the former FBI director.

As The Atlantic’s Natasha Bertrand reports, a spokesman for Mueller confirmed on Tuesday that the office recently referred a case to the FBI that involves right-wing activist Jack Burkman allegedly offering to pay women $20,000 each to make up false stories about the special counsel harassing them sexually.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
36. Didn't Lindsey graham threaten this exact thing?
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 02:56 PM
Oct 2018




Jack Burkman:

Some sad news. On Thursday, November 1, at the Rosslyn Holiday Inn at noon, we will reaveal the first of Robert Muellers sex assault victims. I applaud the courage and dignity...

https://hillreporter.com/special-counsel-alerts-fbi-of-scheme-to-pay-women-to-accuse-mueller-of-sexual-assault-12207/amp?__twitter_impression=true

A little over a week ago several journalists, including myself, received an email from an individual claiming to have been offered money in exchange for alleging sexual misconduct on the part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

“I was contacted via phone call by a man named Bill Christensen, who had a British accent, and said that he would like to ask me a couple of questions about Robert Mueller, whom I worked with when I was a paralegal for Pillsbury, Madison, and Sutro in 1974 (now called Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman),” the individual claimed. “I asked him who he was working for, and he told me his boss was some sort of politics guy in Washington named Jack Burkman (or Berkman… Not sure how it’s spelled)…….

….He (Bill Christensen) then offered to pay off all of my credit card debt, plus bring me a check for $20,000 if I would do one thing. In more of an effort to get him to go away than anything else, I asked him what in the hell he wanted me to do. He said that we could not talk about it on the phone, and he asked me to download an app on my phone called Signal, which he said was more secure. Reluctantly, I downloaded the app and he called me on that app a few minutes later. He said (and I will never forget exactly what it was) “I want you to make accusations of sexual misconduct and workplace harassment against Robert Mueller, and I want you to sign a sworn affidavit to that effect”.”
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