The pollsters have had a difficult time in factoring "anger" coefficient in

[beachbum bob]

dealing with their polling models, and now 3 significant events in 5 days to deal with

Trumps embrace of (white) nationalism

The trump suppprter bomb attempts

The trump supporter terror attack on a Synagogue.


The impact on voters gonna be a tough one to determine. We can safely assume more votes for democrats than republicans will come out of thus chaos. Gonna be a tough one to gauge. With so many close races (100), a change of 1 or 2% maybe all that is needed between democrats winning 30 seats and winning 75 or 80, as well as taking the senate.

And we still have the immigrant caravan coming. What could go wrong with that?? Hint no upside for republicans as in net votes gained and lots of downside as this one thing could spur some apathetic Hispanic/Latinos to vote. That has game changer potential for democrats.

[dawg day]

1. I try not to talk (yell ) at my GOP relatives

... who are mostly just GOP-- they'd have been for Jeb Bush or Rubio if they'd been nominated--
But now they're for Trump.

I want to ask them-- don't you feel the tension here, the chaos, the conflict?
And it's not about a war or economic crash or anything REAL. It's just this one man inciting anger and hate and conflict...
Is this the country you want?

I figure they'll say something about his great policies, and not be able to actually elucidate what those are. I will ask (when I see them at Thanksgiving)--

"Come on, you can be honest here. Wouldn't you really rather have Jeb Bush who wouldn't be constantly talking about himself and hating other people?"

It's just so weird how they've just ... gone along. They don't like Trump, but heck, he got Kavanaugh in, and another tax cut.

[beachbum bob]

4. Almost all today's republicans are eaten up by hate of all things

NOT republican. They hate democrats, liberals, blacks, hispanics, Jews, foreigners....you name it, they hate it.

No debate is possible with haters, no reasoned discussion, and no changing of their minds. Now a small percent are persuadable, a very small percent. The republicans are minority and they take power because they don't sit back in apathy..like so many of those they hate. Our time to channel our anger to action and begins with all of us getting off our collective ass.

[marylandblue]

2. With the mood of the country, this can really go either way.

It's scary. There are too many people on the right who are angry and blame the left for everything. They may just get angrier themselves. This is how violence spirals out of control.

[beachbum bob]

3. Without saying, the right has had decades of wallowing in their anger and

the single most noteworthy element in this election, the first time democratic voters have had any measurable levels of anger in them prior to an election. We have been angry for 2 years. This drives us to vote vote vote. I'm not sure there are any "non angry" republicans that could avail themselves to vote that haven't already or we're going to on Nov6. We have MILLIONS more that could be further inflamed to leave their couches and vote. That source of new votes are unreachable by pollsters.

[Wellstone ruled]

5. First,the Immigrant

group is twelve hundred miles away from the nearest Border. And folks have been dropping out daily along the way because health reasons. Secondly,the group as a whole,moves about twenty miles a day,do the friggin math,sixty days at best. Originally,the organizers projected Christmas to New Years as their target arrival date.


Fox News and Trump are playing our Country for fools and trying to save their sorry asses from being kicked out of power .

Just think about walking twenty miles a day without food or water carrying your kids in your arms.