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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:27 AM Oct 2018

Folks the reason why no one blamed Bernie Sanders for what happened to Scalise is because:

Sanders never targeted Scalise for hate speech, he never celebrated physical violence against a reporter, he never called the press the enemy of the people, and on and on. No comparison.



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Folks the reason why no one blamed Bernie Sanders for what happened to Scalise is because: (Original Post) kpete Oct 2018 OP
Plus he denounced it publicly and very clearly as soon as he heard about it mucifer Oct 2018 #1
Absolutely needs to be said. kentuck Oct 2018 #2
Trump named the targets. Iterate Oct 2018 #3
Not to mention that Bernie was talking about real consequences of denying health care to millions Tom Rinaldo Oct 2018 #4
Yeah, but then there was this stuff: joshcryer Oct 2018 #5
Well, yes, politicians who run as "reform" candidates Hortensis Oct 2018 #6
Well... joshcryer Oct 2018 #8
Yeah, I thought the equivocation was nothing short of absurd. The Liberal Lion Oct 2018 #7

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
2. Absolutely needs to be said.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:44 AM
Oct 2018

Bernie Sanders never acted like Donald Trump or said the language that Donald Trump chooses to use.

The shooter was angry at Republicans because of what Republicans did, not because of what Bernie Sanders said.

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
3. Trump named the targets.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 08:57 AM
Oct 2018

At this time, Sayoc doesn't seem to ever have had an original thought. He couldn't even spell the names correctly, but he had heard them. And when Trump called for violence at his rallies, he was always calling for some one else to do the deed.

Sanders did no such thing, and certainly didn't spend six years calling out named enemies. The same can be said for any Democrat. Even when Biden or DeNiro challenged Trump (as one would do with a schoolyard bully), it was one-on-one and said in a mocking way. No equivalence.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
4. Not to mention that Bernie was talking about real consequences of denying health care to millions
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 08:59 AM
Oct 2018

People get ill, they can't afford medical treatments, they die. It isn't complicated. It is called a policy debate.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Well, yes, politicians who run as "reform" candidates
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 09:26 AM
Oct 2018

against mainstream candidates always do have to appeal to populist resentments by badmouthing their mainstream opponents. It's a hoary old strategy. After all, how else could a hopeful candidate rejected by colleagues and funders hope to displace the favorites? And some of the voters drawn to that always become way too enthusiastically hostile and irrational, leading a few to act out. That's as inevitable as that negative campaigns gather speed on downhill runs.

But that's beside the OP's point, which is spot on. Sanders had nothing to do with the shooting of a Republican whip most people didn't know existed. Sanders' primary focus was necessarily on the Democratic Party, and during the primary he never tried to focus his followers' passions to the right, and certainly not on a relatively obscure figure like Scalise.

Extremely unlike the list of targets Trump offers his whackadoodles.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
8. Well...
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:19 AM
Oct 2018

...I wanted Sanders to denounce that crap, and to denounce the Planned Parenthood boycotts, etc. I felt it was coming from the campaign.

But maybe politicians like that sincerely think they're correct and that they have nothing to do with it?

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
7. Yeah, I thought the equivocation was nothing short of absurd.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:20 AM
Oct 2018

If anything Bernie is always preaching a message of tolerance, acceptance and inclusion. He barley has a bad word to say about trump and his new nazi party. He mainly sticks to policy criticism, as it should be. As a matter of fact, sometimes I wish Bernie would take a harder line, but that's just me.

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