Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:49 PM Oct 2018

Watching a show about Richard the Third (Shakespeare). This character, based on the real Richard

is reminding me of Trump. He was also an evil malignant person who manipulated everyone around him and managed to snag the crown by killing off all the people who were ahead of him in the succession. When they performed the play, people turned against Richard, etc. Too bad Shakespeare isn't around to do a play on Trump.

10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Watching a show about Richard the Third (Shakespeare). This character, based on the real Richard (Original Post) kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2018 OP
Really? Yuorik57 Oct 2018 #1
spot on! choie Oct 2018 #3
EXACTLY and it's so wrong to Raine Oct 2018 #9
Given that Shakepeare wrote that play during the reign of a grandkid of the guy who usurped him, RockRaven Oct 2018 #2
Richard III as depicted by Shakespeare may not have been accurate but defacto7 Oct 2018 #4
bin salman's clearing out the overpopulation of princes rampartc Oct 2018 #6
ian mckellen played richard in a modernized movie. recommend rampartc Oct 2018 #5
trump reminds me of Henry VIII. Got a lot of money from his father, spent it demigoddess Oct 2018 #7
But most notably, when he finally got to be king, he didn't seem to like the job. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2018 #8
Don't read/watch Shakespeare as history Raine Oct 2018 #10

Yuorik57

(19 posts)
1. Really?
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:59 PM
Oct 2018

Richard III was a masterpiece of political propaganda which justified the ascent of the Tudors at the end of the War of the Roses. Since Henry VII had no real legitimate claim to the throne accept for the fact that he was the last of the Lancasters, Shakespeare was commissioned to produce a play demonizing the last of the Yorks... Richard as portrayed by Shakespeare is a deformed villain. The play is magnificent but is a superb example of the fact that the victors write history.

RockRaven

(14,972 posts)
2. Given that Shakepeare wrote that play during the reign of a grandkid of the guy who usurped him,
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:00 PM
Oct 2018

and during said reign the crown and royal court were very sensitive about the legitimacy of her rule, loyalty, and potential usurpers, it is by no means an accurate representation of Richard III's real behavior/personality. But it is a good fictional character. I wish Trump was just fiction.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
4. Richard III as depicted by Shakespeare may not have been accurate but
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:28 PM
Oct 2018

there are a multitude of examples of that type of behavior throughout history. Ancient Rome was full of it. The list is too long but Tiberius, Caligula and Commodus come to mind let alone European monarchs... I could just go on and on through history. It is the way of absolute authority and will never change. The relatively good ones are few and far between and the bad ones have a lot of Trump similarities.

rampartc

(5,409 posts)
6. bin salman's clearing out the overpopulation of princes
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:33 PM
Oct 2018

and potential rivals has reminded me of richard iii and the tower princes. this is by no means uncommon in western cuvuluzation.

rampartc

(5,409 posts)
5. ian mckellen played richard in a modernized movie. recommend
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:29 PM
Oct 2018

i think the play with nixon juxtaposed as richard iii was "dick deterred" but i might be wrong.

the real richard may not have been as bad as shakespeare portrayed him. he may have been worse.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
7. trump reminds me of Henry VIII. Got a lot of money from his father, spent it
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:36 PM
Oct 2018

building castles and buying land. Had many wives, had many mistresses, and spent a lot of time fighting off debt, spending scads of money. Left the throne to a young prince who was ordered about by older men and who died young. He also threatened people and was flamboyant and showed off a lot. Used his followers prejudice about religion to gain power.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
10. Don't read/watch Shakespeare as history
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 05:39 AM
Oct 2018

read actual British History and you will find that Richard III and Trump are in no way alike!

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Watching a show about Ric...