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C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
3. You've got to be kidding me
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 01:30 PM
Oct 2018

Can you imagine the histrionics from Baby Newty if a bomb showed up on his doorstep. He'd be literally shitting himself.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. There is something terribly wrong with Gingrich
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 01:34 PM
Oct 2018

24 years ago our nation recognized that and sent him packing. So what is wrong with us now that we allow him to influence politics by giving him a platform?

MyOwnPeace

(16,928 posts)
8. He's one.....
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 02:57 PM
Oct 2018

And Little Ricky Santorum is another.
Political hacks, scum-of-the-earth, and they keep giving them space to spread their venom!

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
9. Conflict equals clicks and airtime for advertisers.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 03:00 PM
Oct 2018

You are completely right. He was one of the worst speakers of the House and even his own party saw it at the end, but he brings controversy and here we all are talking about it. It brings eyes, ears, and clicks to the media so they put it out there.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
11. No, it wasn't the nation that sent him packing...
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 03:06 PM
Oct 2018

...it was the Republican's Salome Caucus, because he'd promised them the head of Bill the Clinton on a silver platter, and then couldn't deliver. When he didn't, they prepared to oust him from the Speakership.

Faced with being forced out as Speaker, he used other matters for reasons to depart early.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
12. The ethics violation started the ball rolling
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 03:25 PM
Oct 2018

And do you recall he said the Rs were "cannibals"? He demonstrated at the time just how far right he was. I won't get into an argument about how far right the other Rs were willing to go at the time. Maybe I should have said that the nation put him on "ignore" up until a year and a half ago, when his extremist views suddenly became relevant again.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
14. Yes, I do recall, and it was his fellow Republicans who coined the phrase...
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 07:43 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:18 PM - Edit history (1)

..."Tell Newt to shut up!" But my recollection is that while the other things created turbulence for him, they weren't the linchpin. If Starr's investigation had turned up anything solid enough to truly bring Clinton down, Newt could have brazened it out and weathered the storm, just like he always did.

But once the writing was on the wall that what Starr had was nothing close to what the Senate would accept as grounds for removing a sitting president, it was time for Newt to exit on his own terms rather than have terms forced on him by the very pack of fanatics he trained up.

I'm not looking for an argument either, but had you gone with the "ignore until a year and a half ago" version, I probably would have quibbled with that too. He's been a fixture of political media outlets since the Bush years, with the occasional "time out" for comments that should have made him as welcome on-air as stuff people scrape off their shoes. And in 2012 he was one of the temporary darlings of the "anybody but Mitt" clown car, as Trump was at the time. He's been around, being his poisonous, destructive self, just not rating the headlines he used to when he was in the House.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. Alright. We will just agree on the fact that no one should ever give him a platform
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:10 PM
Oct 2018

He has a less than stellar political past, and he has nothing of value to add to current politics.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
6. Blaming the victim is what they do best.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 01:44 PM
Oct 2018

Typical bully thinking - they don't like me so I beat them up - it's their fault for not liking me.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
7. This might come across as uncivil
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 02:23 PM
Oct 2018

But for the record - Former President Bill Clinton STILL owes Newt a punch in the mouth.

I clearly recall his mother telling the world that he calls Hillary a Bitch.

Uncivil Newt - really? 20 years wasn't that long ago and you know what?

Bill STILL owes you a punch in the mouth for that one.

Newt makes my skin crawl - he needs to shut that hole in his face/ass and go the fuck away.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
10. Calling them "the enemy of normal Americans" counts as hostile, Newtykins
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 03:01 PM
Oct 2018

You did that over a quarter century ago, encouraged others to ramp it up and up and up, and have milked it ever since.

You're one of the founders of modern "very hostile" politics.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
13. Conservatives brought pushback upon themselves because of their hateful policies
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 03:32 PM
Oct 2018

Disagree - It's what Americans do. Get over yourself, Newt.

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