Avenatti tells Time Magazine that the Democratic nominee for POTUS "better be a white male"

[oberliner]

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Michael Avenatti tells Time Magazine's @mollyesque that the Democratic nominee for President in 2020 should be a white male.

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[lapfog_1]

1. now you can officially go away Mr. Avanatti. - n/t

[oberliner]

3. Hopefully, he will heed your advice

[LanternWaste]

17. Hopefully, Chuck Grassley will heed yours.

You and Chuck Grassley are sympatico on this one. He's none too fond of Avenatti either... and mirrors your sentiments rather closely in regards to him.

[oberliner]

20. Chuck Grassley should also go away

That would be my advice to him as well.

[rogue emissary]

2. So, his bright idea is to give into racism and misogyny.

[Kurt V.]

4. well good grief.

kamala, what's your opinion?

[Stellar]

5. In other words, NO people of ANY color or WOMEN...

Only White males can fix the problem that they've caused throughout history?

[RobinA]

32. It's Not About

fixing any problems, it's about getting elected. We can't fix problems if we aren't in office. By "we" I mean Democrats.

[Stellar]

44. I know. nt.

[Guppy]

6. In this country

he is probably right. We should have someone young and vibrant. I think Beto is the way to go. He brings in the youth vote. He has "cool. Contrast him against any republican. Think how he brings in the youth vote. The he air drummed to the Who was it not the epitome of "with it". Can you see Ted Cruz air drumming.

We need to contrast Youth vs. Old white guys.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

22. I've been saying this too.

If we can't admit to the reality of this country as it is now, we are never going to win. People here have been thinking about this in terms of the country they'd like to be living in rather than the way it actually is.

Young guy I think would work and would motivate the youth to vote. I think dems have a good track record of winning with younger male candidates.

[wryter2000]

45. For sure

Like a man with a Kenyan father and a white mother could never win.

Like a woman could never get 3,000,000 more votes than a white man.

[Kingofalldems]

7. Duplicate.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211320013

[LanternWaste]

21. I think his is a case of "I don't have my own chum, so I'll reuse someone else's..."

[tman]

8. Good luck getting record black turnout in 2020 with that logic.

Dreadful argument.

I was sick of Avenatti many months ago. His 5 mins are in their last seconds.

[ismnotwasm]

9. What's this, a sop to the feels of white peoples?

He is way off on this one. In fact, he exactly wrong.

[Me.]

12. So Will Any WHite Male Do I Wonder?

Even really old ones just so long as they are white and male?

[ismnotwasm]

14. An excellent question.

Just stick a, oh I don’t know, say, a Biden in there snd everything will be golden? Or is he referring to himself? Is he thinking the RIGHT white male will attract the “economically anxious” white peoples away from Trump? So they can go back to pretending they’re not racist fucks?

This seems all so familiar...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

38. I suspect Avenatti has a particular white male in mind,

that being himself.

If all the non-white, non-male potential candidates are eliminated from contention because they are non-white and/or non-male, the competition is reduced considerably.

[FBaggins]

11. I guess my memory is faulty

President Obama was black... wasn’t he???

[Cuthbert Allgood]

33. Read Coates' "We Were 8 Years in Power"

He makes a strong argument why the Obama presidency caused a racist reaction that brought on Trump.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

39. Which doesn't make Obama's election wrong in any way, shape or form

Nor should it be used as an excuse to refuse to elect an African-American POTUS ever again

[Cuthbert Allgood]

41. Nobody here is saying it was wrong. Nor is Avenatti.

I was responding to the "what about Obama" retort to the OP. Obama's presidency does not disprove the large segment of the population that hated a black president and brought us Trump.

And nobody is saying the should never be another African-American POTUS ever again.

Personally, I don't agree with Avenatti, but I understand where he is coming from. So does Coates.

Personally, I think what we need is someone young. Regardless of gender or color. We need to give the youth vote a reason to think that government represents them.

[skypilot]

36. I know, right?

I guess he thinks that ALL of the enthusiasm that many in this country (and around the world) had for our first black president has been completely exhausted.

[AlexSFCA]

13. odd comment by him; totally wrong

[onenote]

15. Hasn't he had his 15 minutes yet?

Interesting how a female attorney, quietly going about her job, has had more success in suing Trump than Avenatti has:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/while-stormy-daniels-publicly-battles-trump-summer-zervoss-defamation-suit-against-him-quietly-advances/2018/10/24/27e6c700-d2e0-11e8-b2d2-f397227b43f0_story.html?utm_term=.92e2444d6c44

[WeekiWater]

16. If this is accurate.

He is a part of the group who completely fears women and minorities in positions of power. Just like the GOP. Last gasp at saving white rule.

[oberliner]

18. It's accurate

Here's the full Time Magazine piece:

http://time.com/5434317/michael-avenatti/

[get the red out]

19. It had better not be him

He is getting way too big for his britches IMO!

[tman]

23. If Obama can win 2 terms and Gillum can win the FL governorship..

Then his logic is grounded in nothing but self-serving bullshit that does nothing but divide the party.

[Small-Axe]

24. How much hair should this white man have?

[violetpastille]

31. Hahahahahahah!

Welcome to DU!

And thanks!

[wryter2000]

46. You nailed it!

Welcome to DU.

[Bleacher Creature]

25. 14:59:59

His time is up and he now needs to stick to his day job.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. It was up a couple of months ago.

[pbmus]

27. The truth is difficult to hear...

The Big Con racist, misogynist door has been opened and closing it by 2020 is next to impossible....

Yes our primary stage will be filled with all colors, all genders...and hopefully the ticket will be male, female...

[oberliner]

28. What truth are you referring to?

[pbmus]

35. Our current environment is the reality we live in...

If your desire is to have a female, black, president, I suggest you look at another country...

Because this United States of America has digressed at least 20 years...

This as Avenatti says is our reality...UNFORTUNATELY

[oberliner]

37. Obama defeated two white males

Hillary got millions more votes than another white male.

[pbmus]

40. In our current reality, racism and misogyny is rampant and until...

These evils are put back in there place...

We must unite in winning ...

not looking backwards but keeping our eyes forward...

The Central Question is How do we Win....

[oberliner]

42. We can win with a candidate who isn't a white male

[pbmus]

43. I first want to State...I am not embracing Whiteness...or maleness

I am simply being pragmatic....

to win, to lead, to heal...We must Heal..We cannot continue on this path to destruction .

[wryter2000]

47. The racists and misogynists were always there

Trump has given them the freedom to be loud about their hatred, but they were always there.

[pbmus]

49. Yes, UNFORTUNATELY

And we must WIN this November and in 2020....

[wryter2000]

50. The point is

Obama won twice while those people were there and voting. Hillary won the popular vote by over 3,000,000. We can win without kowtowing to America's racism and misogyny.

[pbmus]

53. No kowtowing here...

Just brutal pragmatism....

In looking back, my eyes are cloudy with tears...

In looking forward, my eyes are focused on Winning to Lead ...

[wryter2000]

54. Nothing we can do about it

Sounds like kowtowing to me.

But I'll just be back in the kitchen where I belong.

[marylandblue]

29. I agree with him to a point, and as usual, it's really about Trump

Research shows that politicians attack white male politicians the same way they do women and minorities. However, the attacks "stick" to a woman or minority more, making them more vulnerable to negative campaigning. This was one of the factors that worked against Hillary her entire career, and especially in 2016.

That said, we've also seen an energetic, inspiring black man overcome that. But not woman yet.

I'm thinking of Cory Booker here.

[joet67]

30. Pantsuit mom learned two years ago not to underestimate The pants to mob

It’s like a game of whack a mole

[Gothmog]

34. I really do not care what Avenatti thinks on this issue

I am not a fan

[wryter2000]

48. I was at one point

But the man has to learn this isn't about him. I think a few primaries against some good Dems will teach him that.

[mucifer]

51. so what gender and race is mr avenatti?

oh yeah that's right and he want's to be President.

Go figure!

[Garrett78]

52. Go away, Michael. Turnout for Kamala Harris will be record-breaking.

[JenniferJuniper]

55. Women don't realize that many men

actually hate them.