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The DOW is down 600 pts already! (Original Post) imanamerican63 Oct 2018 OP
Huh? bearsfootball516 Oct 2018 #1
Yes, and yes...down 10/25/18 - 608 as of 9:20a est.... asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #4
lol those are yesterdays numbers GusBob Oct 2018 #8
Just making sure everyone is awake.... asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #13
Is now a good time for my children to tuck-away a little extra into their 401k's? NurseJackie Oct 2018 #2
Buy the crashes is a sound idea bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #9
That is only true if it is near bottom genxlib Oct 2018 #20
Charting gurus bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #21
I have no doubt that there are strategies to make an educated decision genxlib Oct 2018 #23
They are equivalent but bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #24
Wall Street hasn't opened for the day....yet. spanone Oct 2018 #3
DOW 10/25/18 down 608 at 9:20a..but then you knew that.... asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #10
No I DON'T KNOW THAT . it hasn't opened. this is WRONG. spanone Oct 2018 #11
Wrong. Agschmid Oct 2018 #14
"Dow futures poised for modest comeback after stock-market rout rattles Wall Street" muriel_volestrangler Oct 2018 #15
Okay..I won't wave...been a while since I dabbled in the market..9:30a of course.. asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #17
THat is yesterday's result... DOW opens at 9:30 ET hlthe2b Oct 2018 #5
Futures indicate an open of +119 bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #6
I'm in California and mistaken the time! imanamerican63 Oct 2018 #12
I suggest you delete your OP onenote Oct 2018 #16
I did the same thing...west coast..got smacked....told not to wave... asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #18
It's all my fault. JaneQPublic Oct 2018 #7
If THIS is winning, I can't imagine what losing looks like! democratisphere Oct 2018 #19
Winning yes, but for whom? Odoreida Oct 2018 #22
Kick ck4829 Oct 2018 #25
Hello? That OP was from last Thursday Achilleaze Oct 2018 #26
Up 240 now. no_hypocrisy Oct 2018 #27

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
20. That is only true if it is near bottom
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:16 AM
Oct 2018

There is an old expression to never catch a falling knife. You don't know if it is still headed further downward.

bucolic_frolic

(43,190 posts)
21. Charting gurus
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:22 AM
Oct 2018

use time (or period) counts, magnitude of move, as well as patterns to determine entry points.

After 7 to 11 periods of a one-directional large magnitude move, the bottom or top is near. When you see a daily or weekly chart where the last three moves are just "off the charts" - three large moves in the same direction, a reversal is near. Or you can wait for the reversal and then buy, to make sure the bottom has really been made.

Buying newspaper headline crashes is another way to get in cheap. February 2009, October 1987, March 2002 ... these are troughs and great entry points.

I'm not saying one should always wait for such events, but if you average in over the years when the market makes down moves, you'll be better off than simply investing on the first of the month. Plunking down $500 twice a year when the market heads down, for example.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
23. I have no doubt that there are strategies to make an educated decision
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:33 AM
Oct 2018

But they are not assured. Play with house money but don't bet the house.

I am not sure what you mean by "newspaper headline crashes".

I am a bigger fan of the opposite as it relates to the shoe-shine boy story. Get out when everybody (including the shoe-shine boy) thinks making money is easy. I have had a number of those episodes over the years. Especially as it relates to the dot-com and the housing bubble. Just had another a few months ago that timed pretty well with the peak.

bucolic_frolic

(43,190 posts)
24. They are equivalent but
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:49 AM
Oct 2018

shoe-shine boy gets out a little earlier than the newspaper headline crash indicator which is more a buy something that's cheap after the fact.

An educated decision is one made for good reasons with experience. Charting allows decisions made on historical data and indicators and with varying degrees of solid or even high probability. Wall Street doesn't want the public to know. It would ruin their game. They make money on their trading, they make money on managing others' money. And every 8-12 years the market crashes. Even if you buy and hold for 40 years, the managers make almost as much or more than you do - their investment fee compounds every year. It might be .8 or 1.6 percent but it still compounds.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
15. "Dow futures poised for modest comeback after stock-market rout rattles Wall Street"
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:27 AM
Oct 2018

"Futures for the Dow Jones Industrial Average YMZ8, +0.41% were rising 127 points, or 0.4%, at 24,723"

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-futures-poised-for-modest-comeback-after-stock-market-rout-rattles-wall-street-2018-10-25

You and the OP are talking about the drop yesterday. Not today.

Please don't wave in reply to me.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
17. Okay..I won't wave...been a while since I dabbled in the market..9:30a of course..
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:32 AM
Oct 2018

lived on my 72T for ten years........peace...

hlthe2b

(102,297 posts)
5. THat is yesterday's result... DOW opens at 9:30 ET
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:23 AM
Oct 2018

9:30 a.m. to 4 p.m.
The U.S. stock exchanges are open from 9:30 a.m. to 4 p.m. Eastern time, Monday through Friday.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
7. It's all my fault.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:23 AM
Oct 2018

I topped off my Roth IRA last week, so of course the market plummets.

The money would've been better spent as Dem campaign contributions rather than throwing it down the stock market rat hole.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
26. Hello? That OP was from last Thursday
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 09:12 AM
Oct 2018

Might want to check the Dow today....This is what CNN Money is saying:

Dow set to jump more than 200 points as Wall Street tries to come back from last week's losses

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/29/stock-market-dow-futures-seen-lower-amid-earnings-season-worries.html

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