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ASSASSINATE, WTF!!!
2 past presidents, their families, their staff,
Two sitting congresswomen, and their staff,
A former AG, and his staff,
A former Secretary of State, and her staff,
a former head of the CIA, and his staff, along with a news organization, CNN, and their staff, and all the other "civilian" people in the building.
An American investor, business magnate, philanthropist, political activist and author.
As well as any US Postal employee and anyone who serves the above in trying to keep them safe, from the mail clerk to the Secret Service.
Add on edit:. A former Vice President and potential 2020 rival, and a noted actor ( fav Deer Hunter) who spoke up to power.
And frame the former DNC head DWS by using her name and address as the sender!
This is a day of infamy....and for anyone who brushes this off as "just something that happens in our world today and because there is political discourse" is not seeing the big picture of how horrid today was.
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)Needs to be shouted to the MSM.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)We cant be lulled into complacency just because the bomber is inept
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)let that happen.
KPN
(15,646 posts)this will fade in a day or two. They are one and the same.
Ps I mean that figuratively as I do not actually believe mythological accounts of human history.
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)what Putin dreamt of.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)the honeymoon is over with Dipshit. If it is someone from China? (pissed about tariffs) ? Or some other country who just wants him gone? (i.e. knowing there was no chance of physical harm because our systems are so good) ??
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)is now a kinetic war.
bdamomma
(63,875 posts)Putin is taking his revenge on our country for the demise of the Soviet Union being broken apart. So they are pitting Americans against Americans, that is being fuelled by a wanna be nationalist.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)a domestic terrorist attack.
mtngirl47
(990 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)and NY Governor, Andy Cuomo, and NYC Police Commissioner, James O'Neill.
And while I was watching their press conference, I swear the look on Cuomo's face was 'PISSED.'
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)assassination attempt on 2 ex presidents, a retired Sec of State, sitting US Senators and an ex Attorney general. They wer trying to frame DWS, the ex Campaign chair of the DNC.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)lark
(23,105 posts)Fox is minimizing this down to almost nothing and certainly nothing at all to do with drumpf and the evil minions.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)calimary
(81,322 posts)Domestic Terrorism.
And attempted mass murder.
byronius
(7,395 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)Seeing how you listed it all out gave me chills.
ZeroSomeBrains
(638 posts)I had a huge blowup with a friend today about this. He basically said trump denounced it and that was that. He didn't reallly care about what trump has said about CNN and other media outlets as enemies of the people and didn't care much about his other violent rhetoric. He called me very emotional about it.
Just a side note I had been frustrated with him in that he told me Monday that I tell him of a majority black neighborhood in chicago that doesn't shoot at each other. I told him there probably are quite a few. He responded with name them. Now I don't know every neighborhood well but he rattled off a bunch and said how he wouldn't want to be there. He also called kaepernick kaeper-n word after he beat his green bay packers one year. And yesterday he sent me a hillary sucks but not as much as Monika crap. The next day Hillary gets a pipe bomb in the mail. Obviously I'm not taking this crap anymore and called him a racist and that he needs to work on his issues. He told me he has a black friend so he isn't racist.
I mean you can't be any more moronic about it. Just cuz he hates bruce rauner doesn't mean I'm gonna listen to him anymore or talk to him. I'm sick of racist assholes and I'm moving on. God people seem to be devolving in this country every single damn day.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)ZeroSomeBrains
(638 posts)That isn't even the one former friend who wanted us to bomb north korea and didn't care how many died, told me he hated all black peopleand wanted to kick out every undocumented immigrant in the US and would scream in your face when you tried to talk to him. That one was so smart that he didn't get a lawyer for a weed ticket in North Carolina and got his license suspended. I ended that friendship by calling him a white nationalist to his face several times.
There are a lot of crazy angry white people all over including in blue states in the suburbs. By the way both of them were bernie voters who wouldn't vote for Hillary. I'm a bernie voter but my god. I don't even know what else to say.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Thank you for standing up to these people, giving them a reality check, and letting them know you will not silently smile and listen. This resistance is what is needed but so often avoided. People like you are what can halt this . You are the good person who stood up to hate and did not ignore or avoid what was happening around you
hostalover
(447 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Go listen to Beethoven.
Go to a museum.
Read Rumi.
Write a book.
Jeeze, just go for a walk along the lake.
ZeroSomeBrains
(638 posts)I was trying to guide him towards his better instincts but you eventually have to draw a line in the sand when it gets that bad. A lot of those activities sound pretty goodright now especially since I'm on vacation.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Orange Idiot calls the left unhinged and a Mob and boom multiple democrats gets bombs sent to them. Not likely a coincidence.
Now multiple republicans running for re-election and Drumpf start blatantly lying about always being in support of covering people for pre existing medical issues.
Calls to violence and Big Lies, the parallels to mid 30s Germany continue.
If democrats somehow do not at least win the House I dread what happens then.
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CentralMass
(15,265 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)I'm waiting for a Republican pundit to say that.
Actually, I think the Right will make this out to be a False Flag operation by the Dems to rally their base for the midterms.
Trump has already made it about him. For some reason he doesn't like to be compared to Hitler, Mussolini and other self-avowed nationalists. And plaudits to the journalist who asked him if "nationalist" is a code word for "white nationalism."
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)to the situation we find ourselves in?
The press has been calling trump out for his lies. Should the lies be ignored? Emphatically, no.
The press hasn't been giving trump any coverage for good things he does? Depends on how one sees "a good thing". Tax cuts are good for business..but on the flip side..bad for raising deficits and wealth not being shared with workers. We know trump does things in isolation for instant gratification. He wants everyone to think the same way he does. But, if we had a president like Obama...who we knew had studied and considered all sides of the issue... perhaps there actually would be positive press converge.
I think a big part of the negative coverage is rooted in his total disregard for the honor, dignity, and traditions we expect from a president.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)on NPR yesterday they had a republican tool on who insisted the democrats were as bad as the republicans. i was screaming in my car. i will say she sounded pretty weak in the context of a bunch of bombs sent to democrats.
blue-wave
(4,356 posts)I would likely have held back from stating that I truly believe this is an attempt at a full fledged, no holds barred, fascist takeover of our country. IT IS JUST THAT: A FASCIST, TOTALITARIAN ATTEMPT TO DESTROY DEMOCRACY AND THE UNITED STATES AS WE KNOW IT.
If this midterm election somehow goes against us, God help us, God help us all.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)what it was like before. My biggest fear is that -45 gets in again and that we will never again get back to at least where we were.
HAB911
(8,904 posts)Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)Law enforcement is going to be under a lot of pressure to figure out who is to blame for this asap.
lark
(23,105 posts)They will say the person is mad Democrats didn't do more so is sending the bombs as a threat. That's what repugs want but will LEO deliver or push through and actually look for the real person. Of course even if they do find the real repug, drumpf, Huckabeast & Faux will lie and say he's a Democrat - guaranteed, and even when there's proof it's a Nazi or White Nationalist it will be ignored just like they did for all the other mass murdering trumpers.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)i think we're the exceptions. there were no people glued to the news here at work yesterday except me. i had to tell both my sons about it.
because nobody died? because we've fallen so far with the trump effect already? i think that's it. his cult is the minority but they are loud. and the fucking media hasn't even acknowledged that it is a cult. they STILL keep acting surprised at how terrible he is. still. come on.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)I told a friend yesterday what happened is certainly both Pearl harbor and Fort Sumter. I say that yesterday the Resistance became the Rebellion. Only time will tell if I'm right or wrong.
What is clear to me, regardless, is that this is not and will not be a one off event.
KPN
(15,646 posts)kind of stuff (and intentionally inciting it as he continued to do in his blaming of the liberal media last night in Wisconsin) so that he can declare Marshall Law, delegitimization the midterms, and put the kibosh on the Mueller investigation before its results come out. It is impossible for me to believe otherwise given the dangerous vitriol this evil person has been spouting daily. He thinks he can win; I.e, beat the Mueller investigation and this is how he would do it if necessary. He is simply laying the groundwork.
This IS intentional. The illegitimate occupant of the WH is the would be king or more accurately dictator of the world. It is his goal.
While I do not believe in mythological accounts of human history, it is not a stretch to see this evil human as 666 at least in my view and in this mindset this morning.
GOTV! We have no alternative otherwise.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)we'd be living under Marshall law right now. probably the last thing the right ring mouth breathers would expect.
what a truly horrifying alt reality.
we are sadly that close to it.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)niyad
(113,348 posts)red dog 1
(27,820 posts)zentrum
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...it's Anti-Fa. My understanding of Anti-fa is that they are agents-provocateurs--whose sole aim is to foment race wars, etc. and make the legitimate left look dangerous.
The kind of group that would allow Trump to say "there's bad on both sides".
Whether it's straight RW or ant-fa RW, we are living in treacherous times.
LudwigPastorius
(9,155 posts)I spoke with a family member today who was positive this was a Democratic "false flag" plot.
People who believe this are lost causes, bereft of reason, never to inhabit the land of reality again.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Anti-fa are extreme rightwingers pretending to be Democratic. So they are a way to frame us.
But the "false flag" conspiracists are MAGA's who refuse to see how Anti-fa is really rooted in them. In other words, they fall for the Anti-fa constructed "reality".
So convoluted as this all is, I think you and I are saying the same thing.
LudwigPastorius
(9,155 posts)OK.
Somebody should tell that to Wikipedia, Merriam-Webster, etc.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,722 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)bdamomma
(63,875 posts)who has been targeted by tRump, is being threatened....hmm....he is blowing the whistle to his deplorables.
We need to stop this. This election may be our last resort.
LudwigPastorius
(9,155 posts)I wouldn't be surprised to see attacks on polling stations in heavily Democratic areas around the country on election day.
I think Trump's brownshirts are just getting warmed up.
It certainly won't stop me from voting, but I can see how some would choose the safe route.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)Instead of LOCK HER UP they will start chanting BLOW HER UP.
Naaaahhhh. They're not clever or creative enough to think of it.
-90% Jimmy
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Where will this end? I'm glad I'm old.