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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 09:59 PM Oct 2018

Unbelievable - all the minutia. On October 24, 2018, someone tried to kill

Last edited Thu Oct 25, 2018, 08:03 PM - Edit history (3)

ASSASSINATE, WTF!!!
2 past presidents, their families, their staff,
Two sitting congresswomen, and their staff,
A former AG, and his staff,
A former Secretary of State, and her staff,
a former head of the CIA, and his staff, along with a news organization, CNN, and their staff, and all the other "civilian" people in the building.
An American investor, business magnate, philanthropist, political activist and author.
As well as any US Postal employee and anyone who serves the above in trying to keep them safe, from the mail clerk to the Secret Service.
Add on edit:. A former Vice President and potential 2020 rival, and a noted actor ( fav Deer Hunter) who spoke up to power.

And frame the former DNC head DWS by using her name and address as the sender!

This is a day of infamy....and for anyone who brushes this off as "just something that happens in our world today and because there is political discourse" is not seeing the big picture of how horrid today was.

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Unbelievable - all the minutia. On October 24, 2018, someone tried to kill (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 OP
Excellent point Bradshaw3 Oct 2018 #1
I hope this is the beginning of the end to this devil on earth Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #4
agree riversedge Oct 2018 #2
Thank you MaryMagdaline Oct 2018 #3
Trump is hoping and knowing (hope not) that this will fade in a day or two. We can not Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #6
You mean 666 is "hoping and knowing KPN Oct 2018 #39
I feel like we are being attacked by our own citizens...exactly BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #5
Ya, guess it will have to be one of our own citizens? If it is a foreigner (i.e. Russian) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #7
Red Menace: the Republican War On America lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #46
Of course bdamomma Oct 2018 #54
Nothing short of a Domestic Terrorist Attack. Maybe they have, but I've not heard MSM call it RKP5637 Oct 2018 #8
CNN has called it domestic terror all day. n/t mtngirl47 Oct 2018 #10
As has NYC Mayor, Bill DeBlasio Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #11
Kudos to them - they take their jobs so seriously and so soberly. NYC should be proud. nt. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #12
Thanks, I don't get CNN. Glad to hear it being called what it is! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2018 #34
It is also an mercuryblues Oct 2018 #13
Good points...amended my OP. Thanks MB Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #17
Heard it called that on CNN often and a time or 2 on MSNBC. lark Oct 2018 #35
It's Incredible. And Trump continues stupid tweets and political rallies. RKP5637 Oct 2018 #36
That's EXACTLY what it is. calimary Oct 2018 #52
So true. byronius Oct 2018 #9
Kick zentrum Oct 2018 #14
The scope is astounding eleny Oct 2018 #15
I completely agree ZeroSomeBrains Oct 2018 #16
Yikes..thought deep red TX was bad! Keep up the good fight ZSB!! Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #18
Thanks ZeroSomeBrains Oct 2018 #22
Hang in there . There are many good people but haters are everywhere now ! lunasun Oct 2018 #27
Sadly, he sounds like my brother. hostalover Oct 2018 #20
Why even associate at all with human filth like that. The negativity will slowly kill you. pangaia Oct 2018 #38
Yeah i guess that was the last straw for me ZeroSomeBrains Oct 2018 #61
Here We Go colsohlibgal Oct 2018 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2018 #21
Well said. CentralMass Oct 2018 #23
Following right on the heels of a gruesome murder of another journalist. colorado_ufo Oct 2018 #24
"Both sides do it," didn't you know that? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2018 #25
Self reflection...what is our side doing to contribute Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #30
don't have to wait barbtries Oct 2018 #33
Prior to today blue-wave Oct 2018 #26
Yes. And with each day, it's harder to remember Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #28
K&R HAB911 Oct 2018 #29
Yeah, that's awful Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #31
It will be under pressure by drumpf to pin it on an illegal immigrant, BLM, or Muslim. lark Oct 2018 #37
i share your reaction. barbtries Oct 2018 #32
I agree The Liberal Lion Oct 2018 #40
pResident 666 is hoping for more of this KPN Oct 2018 #41
Imagine if any and all were successful... Javaman Oct 2018 #42
Kick and recommend to the max! bronxiteforever Oct 2018 #43
EXCELLENTLY put, we need to remind everyone that THIS is exactly what was intended. niyad Oct 2018 #44
Kick red dog 1 Oct 2018 #45
I have friends who think zentrum Oct 2018 #47
Indeed. LudwigPastorius Oct 2018 #56
Just to be clear. zentrum Oct 2018 #60
"Anti-fa are extreme rightwingers pretending to be Democratic." LudwigPastorius Oct 2018 #62
Kick. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #48
Add to it a highly respected actor and a Vice-President n/t OnlinePoker Oct 2018 #49
Yes. And Biden got two. Sicko Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #51
Yes, Assassinate! Cha Oct 2018 #50
Everyone bdamomma Oct 2018 #53
Not trying to scaremonger here, but... LudwigPastorius Oct 2018 #55
The Trump Rallys are going to use this for a new war chant 90-percent Oct 2018 #57
We've known that Agent Orange thrives on stirring up rancor and hatred spiderpig Oct 2018 #58
It was attempted mass murder. dalton99a Oct 2018 #59

KPN

(15,646 posts)
39. You mean 666 is "hoping and knowing
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:40 AM
Oct 2018

this will fade in a day or two”. They are one and the same.

Ps — I mean that figuratively as I do not actually believe mythological accounts of human history.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. Ya, guess it will have to be one of our own citizens? If it is a foreigner (i.e. Russian)
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:16 PM
Oct 2018

the honeymoon is over with Dipshit. If it is someone from China? (pissed about tariffs) ? Or some other country who just wants him gone? (i.e. knowing there was no chance of physical harm because our systems are so good) ??

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
54. Of course
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:25 PM
Oct 2018

Putin is taking his revenge on our country for the demise of the Soviet Union being broken apart. So they are pitting Americans against Americans, that is being fuelled by a wanna be nationalist.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
8. Nothing short of a Domestic Terrorist Attack. Maybe they have, but I've not heard MSM call it
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:25 PM
Oct 2018

a domestic terrorist attack.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
11. As has NYC Mayor, Bill DeBlasio
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:42 PM
Oct 2018

and NY Governor, Andy Cuomo, and NYC Police Commissioner, James O'Neill.

And while I was watching their press conference, I swear the look on Cuomo's face was 'PISSED.'

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
13. It is also an
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:47 PM
Oct 2018

assassination attempt on 2 ex presidents, a retired Sec of State, sitting US Senators and an ex Attorney general. They wer trying to frame DWS, the ex Campaign chair of the DNC.

lark

(23,105 posts)
35. Heard it called that on CNN often and a time or 2 on MSNBC.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:49 AM
Oct 2018

Fox is minimizing this down to almost nothing and certainly nothing at all to do with drumpf and the evil minions.

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
16. I completely agree
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:52 PM
Oct 2018

I had a huge blowup with a friend today about this. He basically said trump denounced it and that was that. He didn't reallly care about what trump has said about CNN and other media outlets as enemies of the people and didn't care much about his other violent rhetoric. He called me very emotional about it.

Just a side note I had been frustrated with him in that he told me Monday that I tell him of a majority black neighborhood in chicago that doesn't shoot at each other. I told him there probably are quite a few. He responded with name them. Now I don't know every neighborhood well but he rattled off a bunch and said how he wouldn't want to be there. He also called kaepernick kaeper-n word after he beat his green bay packers one year. And yesterday he sent me a hillary sucks but not as much as Monika crap. The next day Hillary gets a pipe bomb in the mail. Obviously I'm not taking this crap anymore and called him a racist and that he needs to work on his issues. He told me he has a black friend so he isn't racist.

I mean you can't be any more moronic about it. Just cuz he hates bruce rauner doesn't mean I'm gonna listen to him anymore or talk to him. I'm sick of racist assholes and I'm moving on. God people seem to be devolving in this country every single damn day.

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
22. Thanks
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:19 PM
Oct 2018

That isn't even the one former friend who wanted us to bomb north korea and didn't care how many died, told me he hated all black peopleand wanted to kick out every undocumented immigrant in the US and would scream in your face when you tried to talk to him. That one was so smart that he didn't get a lawyer for a weed ticket in North Carolina and got his license suspended. I ended that friendship by calling him a white nationalist to his face several times.

There are a lot of crazy angry white people all over including in blue states in the suburbs. By the way both of them were bernie voters who wouldn't vote for Hillary. I'm a bernie voter but my god. I don't even know what else to say.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
27. Hang in there . There are many good people but haters are everywhere now !
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:32 AM
Oct 2018

Thank you for standing up to these people, giving them a reality check, and letting them know you will not silently smile and listen. This resistance is what is needed but so often avoided. People like you are what can halt this . You are the good person who stood up to hate and did not ignore or avoid what was happening around you

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
38. Why even associate at all with human filth like that. The negativity will slowly kill you.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:11 AM
Oct 2018


Go listen to Beethoven.
Go to a museum.
Read Rumi.
Write a book.
Jeeze, just go for a walk along the lake.






ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
61. Yeah i guess that was the last straw for me
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:40 PM
Oct 2018

I was trying to guide him towards his better instincts but you eventually have to draw a line in the sand when it gets that bad. A lot of those activities sound pretty goodright now especially since I'm on vacation.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
19. Here We Go
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:16 PM
Oct 2018

Orange Idiot calls the left unhinged and a Mob and boom multiple democrats gets bombs sent to them. Not likely a coincidence.

Now multiple republicans running for re-election and Drumpf start blatantly lying about always being in support of covering people for pre existing medical issues.

Calls to violence and Big Lies, the parallels to mid 30s Germany continue.

If democrats somehow do not at least win the House I dread what happens then.

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

25. "Both sides do it," didn't you know that?
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:32 PM
Oct 2018

I'm waiting for a Republican pundit to say that.

Actually, I think the Right will make this out to be a False Flag operation by the Dems to rally their base for the midterms.

Trump has already made it about him. For some reason he doesn't like to be compared to Hitler, Mussolini and other self-avowed nationalists. And plaudits to the journalist who asked him if "nationalist" is a code word for "white nationalism."

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
30. Self reflection...what is our side doing to contribute
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:23 AM
Oct 2018

to the situation we find ourselves in?

The press has been calling trump out for his lies. Should the lies be ignored? Emphatically, no.

The press hasn't been giving trump any coverage for good things he does? Depends on how one sees "a good thing". Tax cuts are good for business..but on the flip side..bad for raising deficits and wealth not being shared with workers. We know trump does things in isolation for instant gratification. He wants everyone to think the same way he does. But, if we had a president like Obama...who we knew had studied and considered all sides of the issue... perhaps there actually would be positive press converge.

I think a big part of the negative coverage is rooted in his total disregard for the honor, dignity, and traditions we expect from a president.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
33. don't have to wait
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:43 AM
Oct 2018

on NPR yesterday they had a republican tool on who insisted the democrats were as bad as the republicans. i was screaming in my car. i will say she sounded pretty weak in the context of a bunch of bombs sent to democrats.

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
26. Prior to today
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:46 PM
Oct 2018

I would likely have held back from stating that I truly believe this is an attempt at a full fledged, no holds barred, fascist takeover of our country. IT IS JUST THAT: A FASCIST, TOTALITARIAN ATTEMPT TO DESTROY DEMOCRACY AND THE UNITED STATES AS WE KNOW IT.

If this midterm election somehow goes against us, God help us, God help us all.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
28. Yes. And with each day, it's harder to remember
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:05 AM
Oct 2018

what it was like before. My biggest fear is that -45 gets in again and that we will never again get back to at least where we were.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
31. Yeah, that's awful
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:30 AM
Oct 2018

Law enforcement is going to be under a lot of pressure to figure out who is to blame for this asap.

lark

(23,105 posts)
37. It will be under pressure by drumpf to pin it on an illegal immigrant, BLM, or Muslim.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:57 AM
Oct 2018

They will say the person is mad Democrats didn't do more so is sending the bombs as a threat. That's what repugs want but will LEO deliver or push through and actually look for the real person. Of course even if they do find the real repug, drumpf, Huckabeast & Faux will lie and say he's a Democrat - guaranteed, and even when there's proof it's a Nazi or White Nationalist it will be ignored just like they did for all the other mass murdering trumpers.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
32. i share your reaction.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:40 AM
Oct 2018

i think we're the exceptions. there were no people glued to the news here at work yesterday except me. i had to tell both my sons about it.

because nobody died? because we've fallen so far with the trump effect already? i think that's it. his cult is the minority but they are loud. and the fucking media hasn't even acknowledged that it is a cult. they STILL keep acting surprised at how terrible he is. still. come on.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
40. I agree
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:42 AM
Oct 2018

I told a friend yesterday what happened is certainly both Pearl harbor and Fort Sumter. I say that yesterday the Resistance became the Rebellion. Only time will tell if I'm right or wrong.
What is clear to me, regardless, is that this is not and will not be a one off event.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
41. pResident 666 is hoping for more of this
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:50 AM
Oct 2018

kind of stuff (and intentionally inciting it as he continued to do in his blaming of the “liberal” media last night in Wisconsin) so that he can declare Marshall Law, delegitimization the midterms, and put the kibosh on the Mueller investigation before it’s results come out. It is impossible for me to believe otherwise given the dangerous vitriol this evil person has been spouting daily. He thinks he can win; I.e, beat the Mueller investigation and this is how he would do it if necessary. He is simply laying the groundwork.

This IS intentional. The illegitimate occupant of the WH is the “would be” king or more accurately — dictator of the world. It is his goal.

While I do not believe in mythological accounts of human history, it is not a stretch to see this evil human as 666 — at least in my view and in this mindset this morning.

GOTV! We have no alternative otherwise.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
42. Imagine if any and all were successful...
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:11 PM
Oct 2018

we'd be living under Marshall law right now. probably the last thing the right ring mouth breathers would expect.

what a truly horrifying alt reality.

we are sadly that close to it.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
47. I have friends who think
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:18 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:33 PM - Edit history (1)

...it's Anti-Fa. My understanding of Anti-fa is that they are agents-provocateurs--whose sole aim is to foment race wars, etc. and make the legitimate left look dangerous.

The kind of group that would allow Trump to say "there's bad on both sides".

Whether it's straight RW or ant-fa RW, we are living in treacherous times.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
56. Indeed.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:29 PM
Oct 2018

I spoke with a family member today who was positive this was a Democratic "false flag" plot.

People who believe this are lost causes, bereft of reason, never to inhabit the land of reality again.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
60. Just to be clear.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:04 PM
Oct 2018

Anti-fa are extreme rightwingers pretending to be Democratic. So they are a way to frame us.

But the "false flag" conspiracists are MAGA's who refuse to see how Anti-fa is really rooted in them. In other words, they fall for the Anti-fa constructed "reality".

So convoluted as this all is, I think you and I are saying the same thing.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
62. "Anti-fa are extreme rightwingers pretending to be Democratic."
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:27 AM
Oct 2018

OK.

Somebody should tell that to Wikipedia, Merriam-Webster, etc.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
53. Everyone
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 08:55 PM
Oct 2018

who has been targeted by tRump, is being threatened....hmm....he is blowing the whistle to his deplorables.

We need to stop this. This election may be our last resort.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
55. Not trying to scaremonger here, but...
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:26 PM
Oct 2018

I wouldn't be surprised to see attacks on polling stations in heavily Democratic areas around the country on election day.

I think Trump's brownshirts are just getting warmed up.

It certainly won't stop me from voting, but I can see how some would choose the safe route.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
57. The Trump Rallys are going to use this for a new war chant
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:35 PM
Oct 2018

Instead of LOCK HER UP they will start chanting BLOW HER UP.

Naaaahhhh. They're not clever or creative enough to think of it.


-90% Jimmy

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
58. We've known that Agent Orange thrives on stirring up rancor and hatred
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:51 PM
Oct 2018

Where will this end? I'm glad I'm old.

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