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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 06:37 PM Oct 2018

**BREAKING** China hacked Trump's I Phone




WASHINGTON — When President Trump calls old friends on one of his iPhones to gossip, gripe or solicit their latest take on how he is doing, American intelligence reports indicate that Chinese spies are often listening — and putting to use invaluable insights into how to best work the president and affect administration policy, current and former American officials said.

Mr. Trump’s aides have repeatedly warned him that his cellphone calls are not secure, and they have told him that Russian spies are routinely eavesdropping on the calls, as well. But aides say the voluble president, who has been pressured into using his secure White House landline more often these days, has still refused to give up his iPhones. White House officials say they can only hope he refrains from discussing classified information when he is on them.

Mr. Trump’s use of his iPhones was detailed by several current and former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity so they could discuss classified intelligence and sensitive security arrangements. The officials said they were doing so not to undermine Mr. Trump, but out of frustration with what they considered the president’s casual approach to electronic security.

American spy agencies, the officials said, had learned that China and Russia were eavesdropping on the president’s cellphone calls from human sources inside foreign governments and intercepting communications between foreign officials.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/us/politics/trump-phone-security.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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**BREAKING** China hacked Trump's I Phone (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 OP
To the surprise of virtually no one gratuitous Oct 2018 #1
But her e-mails! Xolodno Oct 2018 #2
Beautiful point taken. FarPoint Oct 2018 #4
While back... Xolodno Oct 2018 #12
Absolutely! OMGWTF Oct 2018 #37
First thought that jumped into my head too. Squinch Oct 2018 #7
Tee hee! DinahMoeHum Oct 2018 #9
Problem is...WE ARE ALL hurt Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #27
Turns out the majority of calls/tweets coincide with tRumperor's bowel movements Blue Owl Oct 2018 #3
Surprised they had to. meadowlander Oct 2018 #5
Is a trump xi'an the same as a sacrilegious xian? erronis Oct 2018 #45
He was told not to use his personal IPhone meow2u3 Oct 2018 #6
Spying on him means spying on all of us. Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #29
North Korea might be listening in too. lpbk2713 Oct 2018 #8
as well as a bunch of teenagers just for laughs. defacto7 Oct 2018 #39
Lock Him Up! Lock Him Up! smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #10
What a surprise...NOT! BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #11
Seize ALL RECORDS! Call Trey Gowdy back for a BENGHAZI-like series of investigations! VOX Oct 2018 #13
Just about to post this. Can you imagine sitting thru a Trump-Hannity conversation? underpants Oct 2018 #14
But Hillary's e-mails!1 UTUSN Oct 2018 #15
The chine$e manufacture ibones, yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2018 #16
well hell, the Russians probably have a listening/recording device in the Oval Office anarch Oct 2018 #17
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #30
Russian spy: "Zis iz Verizhun. Can zhuo hear I now, Comrade Trumpskin?" ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #18
Looks like Hillary's server was way more secure... (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #19
Her server was never breached IIRC... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #23
Some easy payback for Russia helping him take the election and China investing 1/2 billion in a Trum keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #20
That sounds impeachable to me... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #21
Ironic, isn't it. Freak out over Hillary Clinton having a private server... TrollBuster9090 Oct 2018 #25
+1 This. Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #32
Actually, I'd always assumed three or four NEWSPAPERS or news outlets were listening to TrollBuster9090 Oct 2018 #22
jfc..... TalenaGor Oct 2018 #24
Yet the media harassed Obama to no end about his blackberry BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #26
Dumbshit was warned not to use an usecured phone Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #28
I wouldn't put it past him Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #33
That's probably exactly why he kept doing it. NYC Liberal Oct 2018 #36
What a moron. zentrum Oct 2018 #31
he uses a russian designed encryption phone to talk to putin..... getagrip_already Oct 2018 #34
Crickets from the GOP benld74 Oct 2018 #35
His password is 12345. Initech Oct 2018 #38
SS7 was put in place for intelligence agencies. joshcryer Oct 2018 #40
Well, of course they did. dawg day Oct 2018 #41
I'll bet they have heard him say many times. spike jones Oct 2018 #42
Try to imagine this story being about any Democratic POTUS BadGimp Oct 2018 #43
Phone enid602 Oct 2018 #44
Kick ck4829 Oct 2018 #46
No one can take the Toddler's playthings away from him. libdem4life Oct 2018 #47

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. To the surprise of virtually no one
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 06:39 PM
Oct 2018

And if anyone thinks the Chinese are the only ones monitoring Trump's personal cell phone . . . well, the phrase "hopelessly naive" springs to mind.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
2. But her e-mails!
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 06:40 PM
Oct 2018

Sorry, couldn't resist. Got booted out of another thread I took as tongue and cheek...

But on a serious note, why doesn't this surprise me?

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
12. While back...
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 07:08 PM
Oct 2018

...there was a thread that kind of praised GWB because of his friendship with Michelle Obama. Nothing wrong with finding common ground and friendship.

But some were absolving GWB's actions and a poster who I 99% disagree with, Oberliner, made the point, why is this being accepted? As he is the result of a botched war in Iraq whose repercussions are still in effect such as the Syrian Civil War, but also in Afghanistan which we botched by not paying attention to it in favor to Iraq. Thousands of lives lost due to a mismanaged presidency.

I responded with a quick reply, that just says how fucked up the current presidency is.

Now, thousands of lives have not been lost due to tRump's presidency. But it will happen. Either for a desperate attempt to hold power or as all economist know, the decisions today manifest themselves much later. So we will be in wars trying to uphold our influence...which we lost due to Dump.

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
9. Tee hee!
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 06:55 PM
Oct 2018

Serves him right, the prick.
Thinks he's above taking advice from anybody. He was told not to use his personal IPhone for
sensitive stuff.
Let him learn the hard way.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
27. Problem is...WE ARE ALL hurt
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:42 PM
Oct 2018

when classified secrets are divulged. It's not a funny ha ha FB share dt...it's Ameican Intel WE ALL paid for. Sounds like he dodged his taxes so long...he has no investment in the dollars spent to accrue accurate intel to keep America safe. It's UN ACCEPTABLE in the highest degree. He just wipes his feet on America and Americans everyday. We are shown a gaggle of hateful people who's support apparently means they feel the same way. It's not a joke. When the lights go out, there's no DU or computers or cell phones...it's too late, bc, we've been had. Pray there's no missiles coming in on the same day.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
45. Is a trump xi'an the same as a sacrilegious xian?
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 09:35 PM
Oct 2018

(Altho I think all religious nuts are lying to themselves and others...)

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
6. He was told not to use his personal IPhone
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 06:46 PM
Oct 2018

But he didn't listen! He brought this upon himself.

If he were smart enough to take the advice from someone else, he never would have been spied upon.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
29. Spying on him means spying on all of us.
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:44 PM
Oct 2018

I think he's in a position now where he feels like..."I'm a known quantity, and, if nobody does anything, it's on them(us)." He's blowing billions of dollars in the budget, giving away secrets, and inciting violence.
Not a word from Mueller.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
13. Seize ALL RECORDS! Call Trey Gowdy back for a BENGHAZI-like series of investigations!
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 07:11 PM
Oct 2018

Fuck it, because even endangering the lives of all Americans (including his clueless cult followers), ISOKIYAR.

How are we doing with getting those nukes up in space?

underpants

(182,830 posts)
14. Just about to post this. Can you imagine sitting thru a Trump-Hannity conversation?
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 07:31 PM
Oct 2018

Hannity isn't mentioned in the article but they do talk all the time.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
17. well hell, the Russians probably have a listening/recording device in the Oval Office
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 07:47 PM
Oct 2018

I wish I were joking.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
18. Russian spy: "Zis iz Verizhun. Can zhuo hear I now, Comrade Trumpskin?"
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 07:53 PM
Oct 2018

Rump: "Lavrov, I know that's you. Now get off the line; I'm talking to Kislyak!"

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
23. Her server was never breached IIRC...
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:34 PM
Oct 2018

and while they never said that the RNC was also hacked, does anybody really believe it wasn't?

Repubs in general have been kissing Trump and Putin's ass for far too long.

Vote them out!!

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
20. Some easy payback for Russia helping him take the election and China investing 1/2 billion in a Trum
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:25 PM
Oct 2018

Some easy payback for Russia helping him take the election and China investing 1/2 billion in a Trump related project.

The little things count too... as they add up.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
25. Ironic, isn't it. Freak out over Hillary Clinton having a private server...
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:36 PM
Oct 2018

...but don't say a word about Trump blathering continuously over a non-secure phone. Not to mention the fact that he gives other world leaders his private phone number. That would be pretty easy to hack. The NSA is probably the only organization that's restraining themselves from listening to his conversations. But every other country is listening, I'm sure.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
22. Actually, I'd always assumed three or four NEWSPAPERS or news outlets were listening to
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:33 PM
Oct 2018

to Trump's phone. But all they were going to get was a bunch of gossip between Trump and Hannity every night. And, I assumed somebody was going to release the recordings a week or so before the midterm elections, Wikileaks style.

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
24. jfc.....
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:34 PM
Oct 2018

Russia...China...if your listening....just hack my phone....get all you need and I can act like the victim....

BumRushDaShow

(129,118 posts)
26. Yet the media harassed Obama to no end about his blackberry
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:39 PM
Oct 2018

and then he was given a specially modified secure one to use, literally at the beginning of his Presidency.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
33. I wouldn't put it past him
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:49 PM
Oct 2018

to be using it on purpose, so he can feign ignorance ('I'm new at this') while he and his family rick roll the country. This is how he's continuing to get putin information...everyday. Imagine every trump family members phone being the same sitch'.?

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
36. That's probably exactly why he kept doing it.
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:55 PM
Oct 2018

He’s a five year old. He does whatever he’s told not to do.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
34. he uses a russian designed encryption phone to talk to putin.....
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:53 PM
Oct 2018

He is clearly more concerned the american intelligence services will listen than foreign ones.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
40. SS7 was put in place for intelligence agencies.
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 09:00 PM
Oct 2018

They know that we can use it and they can use it. They just trust that for high level stuff we won't use it.

Remember when Obama wasn't allowed to keep his Blackberry?

Why is Trump allowed to run around with an iPhone that is trivially hacked?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/19/ss7-hack-explained-mobile-phone-vulnerability-snooping-texts-calls

https://www.ptsecurity.com/ww-en/analytics/ss7-vulnerability-2018/

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
41. Well, of course they did.
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 09:15 PM
Oct 2018

Everyone knew this would happen.

But Trump is such a nihilist. He doesn't care how dangerous it is.

spike jones

(1,680 posts)
42. I'll bet they have heard him say many times.
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 09:27 PM
Oct 2018

"Double Whopper with cheese, large fries and a large chocolate shake.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
47. No one can take the Toddler's playthings away from him.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:43 PM
Oct 2018

Give it to me.

No.

I said, give it to me.

No.

OK, then.



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