tRump: Effective, inspiring speaker, OR: no one listens to what he says

[stopbush]

They can’t have it both ways. They cannot say that tRump’s hate speech inspires his base and connects with their concerns, and then turn around and say “no foul” because no one listens to him or takes his words seriously when violence and terrorism ensues.

[vlyons]

1. well I'm not listening, that's for damn sure

None of my friends listen to his bullshit. Among my crowd, he has absolutely no credibility whatsoever. At best, he is a pathetic figure of ridicule. As a Buddhist, I tell folks not to hate him, but I'm not making much headway in that regard. Trump is widely reviled.

[Different Drummer]

2. I don't regard him as an effective, inspiring speaker.

He is neither effective nor inspiring at anything, especially speaking.

[rampartc]

3. trump is an effective con man

his marks hear what they want to hear, from white nationalist dog whistles through ayn rand distopia to evangelical end times.

if you can bear to listen to him he really isn't saying anything, but he says it with incredible emotion and energy.