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grumpyduck

(6,262 posts)
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 01:33 PM Oct 2018

Is anybody else fed up with candidates bashing opponents?

Yes, I know it's a long-standing SOP, but it seems the vast majority of political stuff we get in the mail (and we get a lot) consists of the candidate telling us how bad/dishohest/clueless his or her opponent is. To me, this is just a way of getting your name out there without saying anything about yourself. IOW, hot air. And a waste of money donated to the campaigns.

I first noticed this way back in college when somebody was running (I think it was Ted Kennedy), and it seemed like all he ever said was what a jerk the other guy was. It left a crappy taste in my mouth that keeps coming up.

I can't even look at this bashing crap anymore. It just goes directly from the mailbox to the recycle bin - althought sometimes I think it belongs in the garbage.

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Submariner

(12,509 posts)
1. The Swift Boat Liars for Bush left that crappy taste in my mouth too
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:03 PM
Oct 2018

I remember one of their despicable shit eating republican far right wing followers standing up in a Bush Town Hall saying John Kerry shot himself........ twice...... to get Purple Heart medals.

And what did Bush do.....he smirked and said NOTHING to correct that asshole republican's comment.

So you don't need to drop comments about who gives you a crappy taste in your mouth that keeps coming the fuck up, we know all about that crappy shit around here sport.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
2. I can't imagine Ted Kennedy .....
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:04 PM
Oct 2018

ever just bashing the opponent and saying what a jerk he was.
I am fed up with trump calling everyone names and telling lies.

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
3. I live in Colorado and I saw a slew of negative ads about a woman named Bush.
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:07 PM
Oct 2018

I have no idea who her opponent is or what she is running for. All I have heard is that she will raise our taxes by about 3000 %

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
4. It's done because it works.
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:09 PM
Oct 2018

Negative campaigning works in a culture of grievance.

So that's what the GOP does and Democrats are obliged to respond in kind, or look weak.

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
5. Whether you like them or not they work and have since the earliest days of our country
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:13 PM
Oct 2018
Negative campaigning in the United States can be traced back to lifelong friends, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. Back in 1776, the dynamic duo combined powers to help claim America's independence, and they had nothing but love and respect for one another. But by 1800, party politics had so distanced the pair that, for the first and last time in U.S. history, a president found himself running against his VP.

Things got ugly fast. Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman." In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father." As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward. Even Martha Washington succumbed to the propaganda, telling a clergyman that Jefferson was "one of the most detestable of mankind."

Jefferson Hires a Hatchet Man
Back then, presidential candidates didn't actively campaign. In fact, Adams and Jefferson spent much of the election season at their respective homes in Massachusetts and Virginia. But the key difference between the two politicians was that Jefferson hired a hatchet man named James Callendar to do his smearing for him. Adams, on the other hand, considered himself above such tactics. To Jefferson's credit, Callendar proved incredibly effective, convincing many Americans that Adams desperately wanted to attack France. Although the claim was completely untrue, voters bought it, and Jefferson won the election.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/19668/election-1800-birth-negative-campaigning-us

They've been proven effective

kcr

(15,320 posts)
7. Now, if modern pols could attack each other in the way they did, I wouldn't mind so much
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 10:02 AM
Oct 2018

It would at least be entertaining. Jefferson and Adams had a way with words.

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