Which are the dominant evangelical groups in Central America - particularly in Honduras and

[malaise]

Guatemala?
Which are the dominant RW political and military links?

Which corporations/big farms/ slaughter houses hire these people in the greatest numbers?

Lets solve this orchestrated border 'carnival' bullshit.

[Achilleaze]

1. ? Damn good questions ?

[malaise]

2. LOL

For the wise owl

[ck4829]

3. Good question - What are the Evangelicals down there doing for these people?

Here's one thing I know:

Efrain Rios Montt became a minister in a movement now known as Gospel Outreach.

[malaise]

4. Doings he same shit they do everywhere

Stealing from the gullible while enriching themselves and pushing their racist corporate RW agenda

[malaise]

5. There are some good reads on line

http://barthsnotes.com/2018/04/02/a-note-on-us-evangelical-support-for-efrain-rios-montt/


From the New York Times obituary of Efraín Ríos Montt:
In the panoply of commanders who turned much of Central America into a killing field in the 1980s, General Ríos Montt was one of the most murderous. He was convicted in 2013 of trying to exterminate the Ixil ethnic group, a Mayan Indian community whose villages were wiped out by his forces.
…In the late 1970s, after returning to Guatemala, General Ríos Montt reinvented himself. He took a Dale Carnegie course in human relations, abandoned Roman Catholicism, became a preacher in the California-based Church of the Word, and struck up friendships with American evangelists, including Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.
Ríos Montt’s links to Christian Right figures has long been notorious; here’s a discussion by Virginia Garrard-Burnett, as published in her 2010 book Terror in the Land of the Holy Spirit: Guatemala Under General Efrain Ríos Montt (p. 161-162):

[Cirque du So-What]

6. I've read that the 'charismatic' sects have made inroads in Central America

Some charismatics are also evangelical.

[malaise]

7. I can only speak for Jamaica but Fundie churches find overseas employment

for their members in agriculture and the hotel service sector in the US.
The reality of harvest time and so called caravans is very very suspicious.
Several investigations will be required come January.

[MineralMan]

8. Pentecostalism has made major inroads in that region.

Offering an alternative to Roman Catholicism, some groups are quite successful.

The article below has some insights into this:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/11/14/why-has-pentecostalism-grown-so-dramatically-in-latin-america/

[malaise]

10. Thanks for this

They've been pushing the racist authoritarian pro-us
Corporation agenda for about three decades. They were the preferred alternative to liberation theology.
Many also push this crap con known as the prosperity gospel.

[MineralMan]

11. It's not something most people are aware of.

I've noticed it coming back into the 50 states, as well, with storefront Pentecostal churches sporting Spanish language signs popping up here and there. I wondered about that, so I did some research, and it's being imported back into this country, too.

It's worrisome.

[malaise]

12. They used it to destroy worker activism

and any notion of the social good.
And yes worry.

[bobbieinok]

14. At conserv christian colleges, Spanish language students get credits for helping Sp language churche

[bobbieinok]

13. Colleagues proudly claim pentecostals are the fastest growing christian group in CentralAm, SoAm

[MineralMan]

15. Thanks. It's quite a phenomenon.

They seem to have found a formula for attracting people to their groups. I'm not in that region, so I can't speak from personal knowledge, though. I've just been watching it in the media.

[bobbieinok]

22. A major appeal for people of all backgrounds is the intense nature of the church service

There are many short choruses, repeated ver and over until the congragation has nearly memotized the word. The singing is often accompaniedcby a small (often v loud) band.

The preacher moves about on the plaform, at times walking among the congregation. Someone may stand up and start speaking in tongues, or run down the aisle. People are invited to come forward so that curch members can 'lay hands on them' as the congregation prays for them. They may be 'slain in the spirit' and fall down. Members are standing behind those who come forward to catch them and lower them gently to the ground.

Sometimes in the middle of the sermon, the preacher will stop and announce that he's getting 'a word from god; someone who has been having severe pain in their ear is being healed. Raise your hand if I'm talking about you.' He'll repeat this until someone comes forward. (There is intense pressure for someon to vome forward. You feel you have to do something to break the tension.)

The services are dramatic, intense, very 'audience-participation'--standing, moving, shouting 'amen!' at various points. Those in the congregation can really let go, release the tension of the week.

[malaise]

9. They're all over Brazil as well

Pushing the RW racist agenda with Bannon.

[brooklynite]

16. You know that these caravans have been occurring for years, right?

[rgbecker]

17. Didn't know. Would be interested in links to information about these caravans.

[malaise]

18. Your point? n/t

[Lars39]

19. Southern Baptists have an influence down there.

Had relatives that were missionaries there at one point.

[Runningdawg]

20. Baptist

I can name 1/2 dozen churches from the Tulsa area that go on mission trips there every summer. But they sure as hell don't want them coming here.

[Small-Axe]

21. Living in Los Angeles, I can confirm the major inroads that right wing groups...

have had in promoting ultra-conservative (mostly Pentecostal) churches and radio stations here in the Southland.

It is a time bomb that too many people fail to see.

We Democrats tend to believe that "demographics is destiny" and that Latino votes will all naturally find their home in our party (given the obvious), but the far-right is very active with other plans. Don't underestimate the influence of these far-right religious movements.