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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:40 PM Oct 2018

Caravan migrants break Guatemala border fence, rush Mexico

TECUN UMAN, Guatemala (AP) — Migrants traveling in a mass caravan burst through a Guatemalan border fence and streamed by the thousands toward Mexican territory on Friday, defying Mexican authorities’ entreaties for an orderly crossing and U.S. President Donald Trump’s threats of retaliation.

On the Mexican side of a border bridge, they were met by a phalanx of police with riot shields. About 50 managed to push their way through before officers unleashed pepper spray and the rest retreated.

The gates were closed again, and police used a loudspeaker to address the masses, saying, “We need you to stop the aggression.”

Mexican federal police chief Manelich Castilla, speaking from the border town of Ciudad Hidalgo, told Foro TV that his forces achieved their main objective of preventing a violent breach by the 3,000-plus migrants. In a separate interview with Milenio television, he accused people not part of the caravan of attacking police with firecrackers and rocks.

https://www.apnews.com/d52af53fc55b49cdbd320df9a19ff626
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Caravan migrants break Guatemala border fence, rush Mexico (Original Post) oberliner Oct 2018 OP
This is "organized" you know underpants Oct 2018 #1
Organized by whom? oberliner Oct 2018 #2
The listener fills in the blanks underpants Oct 2018 #3
Gotcha oberliner Oct 2018 #4
By Democrats is what one orange anus is saying. Autumn Oct 2018 #23
Yeah, they organized it. roamer65 Oct 2018 #9
Please, think about the absurdity of your claims lunamagica Oct 2018 #21
That simplea malaise Oct 2018 #11
Of course it's bullshit underpants Oct 2018 #12
k&r n/t ChazII Oct 2018 #5
they are REFUGEES. spanone Oct 2018 #6
Yes, it's not a "caravan." It's an exodus... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #7
Just wait 20 years and see how many are fleeing climate change. roamer65 Oct 2018 #8
Scary thought oberliner Oct 2018 #16
Maybe that is the real reason they want a wall Amishman Oct 2018 #17
Bingo. roamer65 Oct 2018 #24
It's already happening NickB79 Oct 2018 #20
When all the ice melts... roamer65 Oct 2018 #25
tRump states he doesn't want the refugees here because Totally Tunsie Oct 2018 #10
Despicable comments from Trump, as usual oberliner Oct 2018 #15
Looks like a Putin move at election time. pwb Oct 2018 #13
Why do you say that? oberliner Oct 2018 #14
Because it causes division among American voters. pwb Oct 2018 #19
Sure fire way to get deplorables to vote Amishman Oct 2018 #18
How did he do it? lunamagica Oct 2018 #22
Why, out of curiosity, would it be a 'Guatemalan Border Fence', not a Mexican one? mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #26
Good question oberliner Oct 2018 #27

underpants

(182,947 posts)
1. This is "organized" you know
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 09:57 PM
Oct 2018

I heard this on talk radio today. Mentioned several times that "this is organized" "whoever organized it..." etc. oh and it's all timed to get here right before the midterms. - expect this to be another wild rightwing talking point.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
9. Yeah, they organized it.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 02:02 AM
Oct 2018

Smells like Repuke dirty trickster money at work.

Use some dark money to get an election time migrant issue going.

underpants

(182,947 posts)
12. Of course it's bullshit
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:01 AM
Oct 2018

Well it WAS organized in some way but the implication here is that it's that dark oh so powerful liberal cabal who were able to organize people hundreds of miles away in another country and all these people just said "Okay. Sure. I'll pick up everything and go on a dangerous trip just to make you happy"

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
8. Just wait 20 years and see how many are fleeing climate change.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 02:00 AM
Oct 2018

This will be a mere blip compared to it.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
17. Maybe that is the real reason they want a wall
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 08:08 AM
Oct 2018

Not for what happens now but for after everything goes to shit

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
24. Bingo.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:47 AM
Oct 2018

But a wall won’t stop it. They will come by land, sea and air. Millions of them.

Eventually Canada and the northern states will have to deal with even refugees from the Southern states as they go underwater.

NickB79

(19,276 posts)
20. It's already happening
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 04:01 PM
Oct 2018
https://www.pri.org/stories/2018-07-15/climate-change-contributing-migration-central-american-refugees


As immigration issues along the US southern border continue to roil the country, one driving force of migration from troubled Central American countries has received relatively little notice: climate change.

Author and journalist Todd Miller, who has written a new book called, "Storming the Wall: Climate Change, Migration, and Homeland Security," says climate change is a key factor forcing families to flee from Central America and Mexico — and deadly droughts, hurricanes, floods and mudslides are projected to intensify further in the region as global warming increases, which will hit small farmers especially hard.


Frankly, I've given up hope on us not militarizing the border due to this. I look at European nations, far more liberal than us, rapidly swinging right and clamping down their borders due to the stream of Middle Eastern refugees coming in. If they can't be compassionate enough to take in those people, how will we do so?

In 20 years I wouldn't be surprised if we had full-on military partols along the border, with both Democrats and Republicans in support, as millions try to move north.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
10. tRump states he doesn't want the refugees here because
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 05:38 AM
Oct 2018

"there are bad people in there".

Hell...has he looked at his own administration lately?

pwb

(11,294 posts)
19. Because it causes division among American voters.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 03:54 PM
Oct 2018

The scene knocking down the gate fires up the pukes illegal aliens lie. I see desperate people wanting freedom. The pukes see lawlessness. That's right out of Putin's playbook. Divide at every opportunity. That's why. Peace.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
18. Sure fire way to get deplorables to vote
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 08:10 AM
Oct 2018

Play that footage on Fox news and fire up all the anti illegal immigrant sentiment all over again

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
26. Why, out of curiosity, would it be a 'Guatemalan Border Fence', not a Mexican one?
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:14 AM
Oct 2018

Guatemala is a prison now?

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