In case you missed this WaPo correction on Warren's DNA test:

[ginnyinWI]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/18/just-about-everything-youve-read-warren-dna-test-is-wrong/?utm_term=.c82cfa628759&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Just about everything you’ve read on the Warren DNA test is wrong

As one might expect, the vast majority of Warren’s DNA indicated European ancestors. But five genetic segments were identified, with 99 percent confidence, as being associated with Native American ancestry. The largest segment identified was on Chromosome 10.

“While the vast majority of the individual’s ancestry is European, the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual’s pedigree, likely in the range of 6-10 generations ago,” the report said.

Here’s where the reporting went off course. The report said that Warren had 10 times more Native American ancestry than the reference set from Utah, and 12 times more than the set from Britain. The report also said that the long segment on Chromosome 10 indicated that the DNA came from a relatively recent ancestor.

The most important point is this: The results in Warren’s DNA test are static. The percentage of Native American DNA in her genome does not shrink as you go back generations. There could be one individual in the sixth generation — living around the mid-1800s, which is similar to Warren family lore — or possibly a dozen or more ancestors back to the 10th generation, which would be about 250 years ago. The results are consistent with a single ancestor, however.

[gratuitous]

1. So the Warren family lore is correct

Which is all she ever claimed (that she had some Native American ancestry), and which Scott Brown (remember him?) tried unsuccessfully to blow up into a major gaffe. Warren has never tried to pass herself off as Native American and has never sought any benefit or advantage in consideration of that Native heritage. Unlike some other people we could all name, she got where she is through hard work and grit, not some outsize financial inheritance.

Pay up, Deadbeat Donald. Unless you're an Indian giver. Or a welcher. Or you're trying to gyp Sen. Warren. Or jew her down on your bet. I don't think this quite qualifies as trying to jap her. But Trump is clearly not as good as his word.

[ginnyinWI]

2. The Post goes on to say

that the original NYT article got it wrong and was misinterpreted by people who don't understand genetics. Then of course the GOP and Trump got hold of it and twisted even further.

There was never any point trying to convince anyone on the right though. I don't think she really was doing that. Just wanted to get it out there for the rest of us.

[Squinch]

3. The New York Times seems to be bending over backward to avoid the wrath of the

unindicted co-conspirator. It is causing them to trip over their own feet over and over and over.

Really, they need to get their act together. I cancelled my subscription and subscribed to the Post.

[byronius]

6. There's some good reporting going on there -- just like in the Wall Street Journal.

Here and there, bits and pieces.

But you're right, clearly there's some sort of cultural war going on inside the NYT, and the losses for the good guys are mounting.

[byronius]

5. Your last paragraph got me. Didn't realize it was satire until the second read.

Well done.

[gratuitous]

7. There's an amazing number of ethnic slurs, aren't there?

I'm glad that most folks growing up these days don't recognize a lot of things that were pretty common when I was a tad.

[GemDigger]

8. this

Pay up, Deadbeat Donald. Unless you're an Indian giver. Or a welcher. Or you're trying to gyp Sen. Warren. Or jew her down on your bet. I don't think this quite qualifies as trying to jap her. But Trump is clearly not as good as his word.

Made me smirk/smile while nodding my head. Sounds like him..

[dchill]

12. Indeed!

[ProfessorPlum]

14. Thank you!

I've had to repeat this all over the internet, even to the Majority Report, because everyone has just swallowed the GOP line that _she_ tried to make something of this.

What a crock of shit. We have the Boston Globe to thank for originally writing the story about this, which caused Scott Brown's yap to flap about it endlessly, since he didn't have any other line of attack.

[Hortensis]

4. Good, but whatever. We've known a number of people who

believed they had native American ancestors -- and they were all proud of it. Before the past decade, this simply couldn't be proven, but it would never have occurred to us to be so stupid and rude as to contest their beliefs in their heritages.

So shame on all who "rushed to trouble" to throw rocks at Senator Warren. Like all our friends, she was always entitled to her pride in what she believed was a small but significant part of her family heritage and to express it, regardless of what DNA testing later showed, her family history validated with new technology as it turned out, but even if it had not been.

[ginnyinWI]

9. My blonde blue eyed husband,

mostly European, is nonetheless 1/32 Mohican according to family lore. Only pride in his family over this. It takes racists to imagine that it would be a thing to be ashamed of!

[bucolic_frolic]

10. I think mine is 4-5 generations ago, about 1810

Tracing genealogy with censuses, names, ages, towns - I was able to find her name and origin. Haven't looked at genealogy in more than 10 years, so need to get back to it.

[mbusby]

11. Best I can tell....

...someone way back on my tree was a horse thief.

[dchill]

13. K&R.