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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:24 PM Oct 2018

Looks like Michael Bloomberg is seriously considering running for the D POTUS Nom in 2020

Registered as a D from I, in S Carolina bashing tRump’s trade policies.

If he runs, he has the $ to stay in the race for the long term. I think we need to start thinking seriously about him running for the D nomination.

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Looks like Michael Bloomberg is seriously considering running for the D POTUS Nom in 2020 (Original Post) stopbush Oct 2018 OP
go away, Bloomberg. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #1
Geez I hope he doesn't. MontanaMama Oct 2018 #2
Yeah, I feel like we need a young person to run against Trump Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #19
Almost any Dem over a GOP. OhZone Oct 2018 #3
He also knows tRump very well and knows how to fight him. stopbush Oct 2018 #7
Oh-k good points. nt OhZone Oct 2018 #8
Excuse me but calling yourself a Dem shanny Oct 2018 #31
Yeah, but on the flip side - OhZone Oct 2018 #35
yup. but we are not talking about Republicans in the general shanny Oct 2018 #37
Here is a novel thought genxlib Oct 2018 #4
The problem with your novel idea, (and I agree it's a novel idea) is that if you go the novel route politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2018 #14
I get it genxlib Oct 2018 #23
Nope. He's a Republican. waddirum Oct 2018 #5
No, he's not brooklynite Oct 2018 #12
I'm not really straight waddirum Oct 2018 #20
. Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2018 #36
Who needs republicans to cut "entitlements" like social security and Medicare when a Democrat... Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #6
Amen. shanny Oct 2018 #33
Anyone who gets the 'not the fascist' nomination will get my vote JCMach1 Oct 2018 #9
He is also going to be be 78 years old in 2020 genxlib Oct 2018 #10
Excellent possibility for Democratic Presidential candidate. democratisphere Oct 2018 #11
Too old, doesn't have national pull, not really a Dem. kwassa Oct 2018 #13
I'm all for him running. WeekiWater Oct 2018 #15
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2018 #18
I want anyone who is a reasonable person who can win this for us to run Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #16
That's why snowybirdie Oct 2018 #17
pass. TeamPooka Oct 2018 #21
Yeah, I'm already moving towards Kamala Harris. stopbush Oct 2018 #24
Money won't matter if he gets his butt kicked in the first few primaries. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #22
Ref: John McCain in 2008. stopbush Oct 2018 #25
McCain won NH, SC and FL. Finished 2nd in MI. Led Romney 95-66 at end of January. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #32
can't these billionaires get another hobby rather than being our saviors? rurallib Oct 2018 #26
Nope. shanny Oct 2018 #27
Nice. He'll make Stop and Frisk, unaffordable rents, soda bans and nationwide thing tenderfoot Oct 2018 #28
Whatever. Not voting for him in the primary. HopeAgain Oct 2018 #29
78 on Inauguration Day Renew Deal Oct 2018 #30
Too long a billionaire. He is a good person but delisen Oct 2018 #34

MontanaMama

(23,333 posts)
2. Geez I hope he doesn't.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:31 PM
Oct 2018

I don’t have anything specific against him except that he’s an old white dude. If we end up with an old white dude for our nominee, of course I’ll vote for him but we have a treasure trove of inspiring younger women, men, POC to choose from and I’d much rather see someone like that.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
19. Yeah, I feel like we need a young person to run against Trump
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 02:23 PM
Oct 2018

and even though I'd love a woman president, I think running a man is a safer bet against Trump. That way the sexists will have to consider more than just gender when they vote. A young, male democrat I think could win this. Preferable good looking because so many people will just vote for the best looking president. People just naturally like good looking people better. Trump is always trying to act like he's so masculine (LOL!), but if he were up a against a good looking, younger man he would look like a fool. Young guy wins in the masculinity department. I am feminist woman myself, but I'm just being realistic here. Democrats need to not risk losing this one because the country at risk. We should have the best candidate ever this time. No fooling around people. We need to appeal to more people than just liberals too. We need the independents on board with us and we need republicans to cross over and vote for us too.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
3. Almost any Dem over a GOP.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:31 PM
Oct 2018

I just say, at least, he's back to being a full fledge Dem compared to some who didn't switch parties to be in the race? And he was a Dem before.

Bloomberg wouldn't be that bad and has the knowledge and money to fight the GOP.

If he chose Julian Castro as VP or Cory Booker or Elizabeth Warren.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
7. He also knows tRump very well and knows how to fight him.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:36 PM
Oct 2018

Bloomberg’s big negatives with the average American:

1. He’s Jewish. Racists won’t vote for him.

2. He’s a New Yorker...just like tRump. Will be seen as the same choice as tRump

3. His voice is whiny

And for those who consider themselves politically aware,

4. Has changed parties too many times. Signals a lack of consistent ideology.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
31. Excuse me but calling yourself a Dem
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:04 PM
Oct 2018

is insufficient for me. Policies matter, not labels, and Bloomberg doesn't have them.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
37. yup. but we are not talking about Republicans in the general
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:58 PM
Oct 2018

we are talking about Bloomberg in the Democratic primaries. And he's a non-starter for me.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
4. Here is a novel thought
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:34 PM
Oct 2018

How about we nominate a Democrat from the Democratic Party?

I have a certain amount of respect for Bloomberg but that does not translate to wanting him to represent us.

It is all part of the magical thinking that we are supposed to position ourselves in the middle and assume we get everyone to the left and some to the right. It doesn't work that way. The Republicans would just paint him as a New York Liberal anyway so we just end up with the worst of both worlds.

Don't get me wrong, I would vote for an inanimate object over Trump but we can do better in the primary.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
14. The problem with your novel idea, (and I agree it's a novel idea) is that if you go the novel route
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 02:02 PM
Oct 2018

i.e., register as a Democrat, run for office, and win and serve in a few seats, you develop a history that your future opponents will attack, and even lie about. Just look at the political ads on TV, the political attacks are craaaaazy. I'm sure the candidates would not even recognize themselves in their opponents attack ads. Even your former colleagues in the House or Senate will try and destroy you once you're in a competitive race. This is what allows someone like a Bloomberg, to sit on the sidelines, and run his own business, make a lot of money, and then one day decide he will run for office. He doesn't have the baggage that those who've run for office or been in Congress before have, and he'll waltz right through.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
23. I get it
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:00 PM
Oct 2018

The problem is that they will do the same thing to Bloomberg. They will paint him as a New York Liberal anyway.

I'd rather have a real liberal painted as a liberal than a moderate painted as one.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
12. No, he's not
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:49 PM
Oct 2018

He ran for Mayor as a Republican to bypass the Democratic Primary. He was never one ideologically.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,331 posts)
6. Who needs republicans to cut "entitlements" like social security and Medicare when a Democrat...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:36 PM
Oct 2018

... can do it for us. Just what we need. A billionaire recent republican telling carpenters and bricklayers they need to work till they are 75 while Bloomberg has staff wiping his ass when he’s too old to do it.

He can even quote Churchill. Oh joy. What’s next? Thatcher?


To reduce the deficit we must cut entitlements

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Mike_Bloomberg_Social_Security.htm

Q: Your thoughts on the sequester?
BLOOMBERG: Winston Churchill once said, "You can always depend on America to do the right thing after exhausting all other possibilities." We've had a democracy for 235-odd years and it works in the end, and that's what's in important. Sequestering is here. It will go on for a while. It's not going to be the end of the world as we know it. And everybody was saying, "Oh, the worst-case scenario is exactly what we're going to implement." And now they're into the real world and they'll try to find ways to do more with less, and then hopefully Congress will come together and modify sequestering to cut things back where we can afford it and not where we can't. And keep in mind, no program to reduce the deficit makes any sense whatsoever unless you address the issue of entitlements, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, interest payment on the debt, which you can't touch, and defense spending. Everything else is tiny compared to that.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
10. He is also going to be be 78 years old in 2020
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:45 PM
Oct 2018

Nearly 83 at the end of a 4yr term.

More than 8 years older than the oldest President ever (which happens to be Trump). With all of the concern about his declining mental faculties, it seems we should at least consider whether someone has another 4-8 good years left in them.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
11. Excellent possibility for Democratic Presidential candidate.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:46 PM
Oct 2018

MB has it all going on and would have broad appeal with Democrats, Independents, moderate Republicans and never drumpfers!

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
15. I'm all for him running.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 02:04 PM
Oct 2018

Like the rest of the possible entrants on the left he is a serious person who will be taken seriously. Just one more in the mix to differentiate us from Republicans. I don't see myself ever even considering voting for him in the primaries.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
16. I want anyone who is a reasonable person who can win this for us to run
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 02:10 PM
Oct 2018

Whoever appeals to the most people should run. We shouldn't be looking for the perfect liberal right now. This is not the time to be idealists.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
32. McCain won NH, SC and FL. Finished 2nd in MI. Led Romney 95-66 at end of January.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:27 PM
Oct 2018

Then he kicked ass on Super Tuesday. It was all over after that.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
27. Nope.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:00 PM
Oct 2018

He will go nowhere, despite his $$$...or maybe because of it. "Billionaires" will have a very bad reputation by then and deservedly so.

tenderfoot

(8,438 posts)
28. Nice. He'll make Stop and Frisk, unaffordable rents, soda bans and nationwide thing
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:02 PM
Oct 2018

Fuck Michael Bloomberg!

delisen

(6,044 posts)
34. Too long a billionaire. He is a good person but
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:04 PM
Oct 2018

he has been a billionaire too long to understand the massive changes we are going to need to build an egalitarian nation while we are perched on the edge of climate disaster.

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