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redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:29 AM Oct 2018

Kornacki, on Morning Joe, throwing shade on Bredesen's surge in two recent polls

One poll has Bredesen down by only 3 (which Kornacki pooh-poohs), another just out today from Vanderbilt U that has Bredesen up by 1. Kornacki has such glee when he talks about "political gravity" taking hold in TX, TN and other red states, basically saying the Dems have no chance there. I will not be watching him root for the Republicans on election night.

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Kornacki, on Morning Joe, throwing shade on Bredesen's surge in two recent polls (Original Post) redstateblues Oct 2018 OP
I turn off tv when Log Cabin Kornpublican comes on. Can't stand him. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #1
+1 violetpastille Oct 2018 #20
They've made him into a clown act. The manic math 🤓 nerd geek. Sad. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #22
Boy, have you hit the nail on the head! Raster Oct 2018 #26
Exactly. Just like Chickens 🐔 for Colonel Sanders. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #27
No Shit!!! Raster Oct 2018 #28
He is such a fraud. BSdetect Oct 2018 #2
Was a pen pal with Chris Christie. Seriously. stopbush Oct 2018 #33
Mitch McConnel just gave the democrats wins as the GOP candidate is made to defend furture cuts beachbum bob Oct 2018 #3
I wish we could quickly organize a petition to MSNBC to exclude him hlthe2b Oct 2018 #4
I've been saying the same thing. MontanaMama Oct 2018 #7
Maybe PBS? hlthe2b Oct 2018 #8
I wish they would have... Basement Beat Oct 2018 #18
If you do, please message me. I will sign a million times. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #23
Kornacki BigMin28 Oct 2018 #5
Kornacki is happiest as a contrarian Byte606 Oct 2018 #6
Kornpucky is a right wing tool. deminks Oct 2018 #9
I know folks don't want to believe it.... Adrahil Oct 2018 #10
This is absolutely true... vi5 Oct 2018 #11
Yup, it's why my sanctimonious GOP in-laws.... Adrahil Oct 2018 #12
Bredesen won all 95 counties in the Gubernatorial race so he has redstateblues Oct 2018 #17
Well, by all means vote! Adrahil Oct 2018 #32
Thank you. How many Repubs toyed with abandoning Trump in 2016 and didn't? Drunken Irishman Oct 2018 #31
Can't stand him! unitedwethrive Oct 2018 #13
I mean I'm voting for Beto next week qazplm135 Oct 2018 #14
Of course that Repuke is. MoonRiver Oct 2018 #15
Personally I think CNN does better on election coverage FloridaBlues Oct 2018 #16
John King and his magic wall are the best in the business when it comes to election night. bearsfootball516 Oct 2018 #34
I never liked him. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #19
I guess if you want to see bias you will... brooklynite Oct 2018 #21
Because of Kornpublican, I now watch more CNN and will Election night. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #24
I LOVE STEVE KORNACKI shenmue Oct 2018 #25
If ur a girl, that's a lot of pretendin...cause Homie don't swing that way. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #29
Screw Kornacki aeromanKC Oct 2018 #30

Raster

(20,998 posts)
26. Boy, have you hit the nail on the head!
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 12:03 PM
Oct 2018

Log Cabin Steve* should realize all his GOP* pandering and closet Rethuglican nerdiness won't mean diddley-squat to the haters. To them, he's just another FAG.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. Mitch McConnel just gave the democrats wins as the GOP candidate is made to defend furture cuts
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:31 AM
Oct 2018

to safeguard rich people's yachts.

Kornacki is anothe inside the beltway hack, if anything the tide has gained for democrats nationwide.

hlthe2b

(102,320 posts)
4. I wish we could quickly organize a petition to MSNBC to exclude him
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:33 AM
Oct 2018

I too don't think I can bear to watch MSNBC election night if he is on.

His hyper-freneticism has always made me crazy but I could bear that somehow.

But now, his true colors have come out--big time.

MontanaMama

(23,333 posts)
7. I've been saying the same thing.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:38 AM
Oct 2018

He’s unwatchable. I might be able to stomach with him if he dealt in facts. He can take his flailing hands, blue button down shirt and khaki pants shtick elsewhere. But where to watch the results? CNN scares me.

Basement Beat

(659 posts)
18. I wish they would have...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:46 AM
Oct 2018

Joy Reid, Lawrence O'Donnell and Rachel Maddow carry the night. But alas, it'll probably just be Tweety, Brian Williams and good ol' Kornacki. *gag*

Byte606

(11 posts)
6. Kornacki is happiest as a contrarian
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:36 AM
Oct 2018

I will never forget the glee and exaggeration with which Kornacki reported the squeaker GOP win in 2016.


Since then I have noticed he had a the just the facts approach to Democratic wins in the specials.


I know that he will again be the contrarian when he reports that the Democratic House takeover is not as important as the GOP Senate hold.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
10. I know folks don't want to believe it....
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:47 AM
Oct 2018

But the concept of "political gravity" is born out by the historical evidence. People will toy with the idea of abandoning their political roots, but once the ads start flying, they tend to give in to their base fears and revert to type.

So don't be surprised if Bredesen loses. I'm not saying he can't win, I just don't think he will. Same with Beto (although I would give my left nut to see him beat Cruz) OTOH, this phenomena will probably help Menendez in NJ (and Kornacki said so last night).

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
11. This is absolutely true...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:54 AM
Oct 2018

..this is why even though soooo many Republicans I know hated Trump, they were still never going to abandon their party. And even ones that were not going to vote for Trump were still never going to vote for a Dem.

It's why this near constant effort to focus our attention on peeling off "moderate Republicans" (HA!) continues to be a complete fool's errand.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
12. Yup, it's why my sanctimonious GOP in-laws....
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:58 AM
Oct 2018

scolded my daughter one for saying "Gosh!" (they replied, "you might as well blaspheme directly instead of using a euphemism!" ) vote for Pussy-grabbing "tried to fuck her" porn-star sleeping with and paying off Trump. They hang their head a bit when I call them out on it, but they vote for him anyway.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
17. Bredesen won all 95 counties in the Gubernatorial race so he has
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:46 AM
Oct 2018

Already defied “political gravity” twice. If people buy into this concept there is really no point in voting and when talking heads like Kornacki start touting these talking points two weeks out it sure feels like something that will tamp down turnout

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
32. Well, by all means vote!
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:12 PM
Oct 2018

I'm not saying the outcome in inevitable, but politics are more tribal than ever. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if he loses.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
13. Can't stand him!
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:03 AM
Oct 2018

Another house where the TV goes off the second he comes on! When every vote counts, one cannot underestimate the power he has by subtly undermining the Dems.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
14. I mean I'm voting for Beto next week
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:04 AM
Oct 2018

but Kornacki is probably right. On those two states for sure, and a couple of other red states as well probably.

The Dems chances in TX, TN, MS and ND are pretty sparse. Impossible? No. Sparse? Yes.

I don't think he has "glee." He has a position that doesn't help us feel optimistic. And he's clearly a political nerd who really enjoys his job. Doesn't make him right. Some chance means just that...some chance, even sparse. And in a wave election, the whole point is that races flip that you couldn't have, and wouldn't ordinarily have predicted. That the polling won't predict, because they won't identify the correct turn out.

So if there is a blue wave, all but the most optimistic are going to be wrong.
If there is a muted one, or none at all, then folks like Kornacki are going to be right.

We will see in less than three weeks.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
34. John King and his magic wall are the best in the business when it comes to election night.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:58 PM
Oct 2018

He's calm, cool, and nobody knows their stuff better.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
21. I guess if you want to see bias you will...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:48 AM
Oct 2018

I watched the same discussion. He was talking about the general trend from where Democrats were consistently ahead to where they weren’t. That’s reality.

aeromanKC

(3,326 posts)
30. Screw Kornacki
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 12:14 PM
Oct 2018

I like the fricken poll results!! Bredeson within the margin or error and or ahead!!

I had written that one off and have had nightmares thinking of Witch Marsha in the Senate.

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