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oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 02:20 AM Oct 2018

Another question...more like, what's your opinion?

Can't sleep tonight, too many horrible things going on in the world and in my mind. So I thought I'd ask this question, one that's been bothering me lately. Do you have faith in the Mueller investigation? I worry there are already too many obstacles in place, for any report to make a difference. The Supreme Court is useless to us now. The lower courts are packed with toadies and right wing McConnell nut jobs. The Senate is unlikely to go blue. And it always always tickles the back of my mind that Mueller, Rosenstein, even Comey - these guys are all Republicans. I'm in a very negative frame of mind tonight, but feel I need to face reality.

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Another question...more like, what's your opinion? (Original Post) oldtime dfl_er Oct 2018 OP
What do you mean by "have faith?" ZZenith Oct 2018 #1
None at all but if something comes out of it I will be delighted . Yes they are all republicans lunasun Oct 2018 #2
Nope, not at all especially after KavaNope and the FBI being ordered to limit investigation. I don't uponit7771 Oct 2018 #3
Mueller is as serious as a heart attack grantcart Oct 2018 #4
I do. We know the background and tenacity of Robert Mueller Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #5
Dont rely on righty quakerboy Oct 2018 #6

ZZenith

(4,125 posts)
1. What do you mean by "have faith?"
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 02:49 AM
Oct 2018

Do I believe the Mueller investigation exists? - yes, I do.

Do I think it will directly result in the Trump cabal’s demise? Too soon to know, but I shall be surprised if what it reveals makes any but the dumbest segment of our population more willing to support him.

As I see it, the race is between how quickly he can deflect blame for all the coming negative consequences of his actions (thereby solidifying his stature amongst the Neanderthal set) and how quickly enough of the sentient members of our society get boiling mad and direct their anger directly at him and those who enable him.

As we progress, civil society will begin to break down around his enablers, and they will get no peace anywhere in public, which will cause them to circle the wagons even tighter, until the hungry and angry masses rip them from limb to limb.

So, it’s likely to get ugly, but the Fourth Reich, spearheaded by Donald Drumpf, is destined to fail, as do all movements headed by complete idiots.



“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”


― Mahatma Gandhi

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
2. None at all but if something comes out of it I will be delighted . Yes they are all republicans
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:00 AM
Oct 2018

Can they stomach destroying a large part of their party ?
At least all those prank carrot danglers at online sites saying trump will be locked up next week !
You will see! just wait ! Tomorrow many members of congress stay tuned . Someone leaked and told me so !!! have seemed to tire of thier postings . Sad how many wanted to believe it was true and could happen just like that overnight , but they got a lot of hits and clicks out of wishes
Elections have consequences that is true and doesn't go away that easy
So GOTV don't wait on a report
Congress is important. Don't give up but do stay real imho
Seriously I hope I'm wrong . I would be happy to see change

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
3. Nope, not at all especially after KavaNope and the FBI being ordered to limit investigation. I don't
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:00 AM
Oct 2018

... trust Red Don as far as I can throw him with a broke arm and would put money on it that the Russians hacked the kGOP and is blackmailing the lot of them after they've taken a ton of Russian money.

There will be a pound of flesh from a few of the top kGOP but that's it.

On the other hand

I don't think we're seeing the half of the Kremlin KKKlans corruption, Red Don seeing his kids go jail especially Kushner

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
4. Mueller is as serious as a heart attack
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:09 AM
Oct 2018

His Marine service, DOJ, FBI all part of a single sacred duty.

He has the same routine every day, early rise, focus.

It is a religious foundation to a commitment to a life of service.

He couldn't be at Valley Forge, Gettysburg or Normandy so he paid his dues for 42 years so that when his country needed him he would show what devotion to the principles in the Constitution means.

You could call it old school but it is older than that.

He doesn't care what we or anyone thinks he is marching to the voice that has guided him all the way back to when he volunteered to risk everything.

We can sleep tonight because a humble patriot has stepped up to take the job he has been preparing for 42 years.

He knows that this will be his legacy.

He will do the right thing for the right reason in the right way.

Rhiannon12866

(205,728 posts)
5. I do. We know the background and tenacity of Robert Mueller
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:10 AM
Oct 2018

And I think it's a misnomer to say it's all about him. There are more investigations than we know about going on - with information also passed on to state agencies. I believe that's why it's taking so long. And that's also why it would be impossible for Trump to shut down - dozens(?) of teams of investigators and prosecutors are working on this at both federal and state levels. And the fact that there have been so few leaks indicates these guys are pros.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
6. Dont rely on righty
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:16 AM
Oct 2018

Vote.
Help others vote.
Encourage even more to vote.

We can fix this. They will not. There are no saviors, But we have 300 million or so fellow citizens who have the opportunity to make a difference.

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