Bold prediction: Trump out of office and his family under indictment a month from today

[NewsCenter28]

Based on this:
https://0ptimus.decisiondeskhq.com/

Here's how I see it going down:
1. Nancy becomes Speaker-Elect Nov 6, 2018.
2. Mueller issues his grand finale indictment Spree, Friday, November 9, 2018 a.m, including surprises (not just Jared and Don Jr. but Eric, Ivanka, and Eric Prince as well). We will be stunned at the depth and breadth of the Trump family treason.
3. Trump resigns late evening Friday November 9, 2018.


He cannot withstand a Dem house majority and Mueller will move quickly that week to ensure he doesn't get any grand ideas about surviving a Dem majority either.

[leftieNanner]

1. Thank you for the cheery post!

I'm working hard to push toward November 6th and those election results (please oh please oh please). These indictments would be spectacular news!

[ProudLib72]

2. Can we include most of GOP Senate in those indictments?

Pretty please, so we don't have the same old shit happening again?

[TalenaGor]

26. I hope so! and is anyone checking under pences hood?

[MsLeopard]

3. Rec because I so hope you're right

Your scenario would be best case I think, but here’s hoping you’re right! Cheers!

[leftieNanner]

4. Second comment

Don't you think he will have to be dragged out? Kicking and screaming? Don't you think he will try to get McConnell, Sessions, etc. to protect him?

I think you may be right about the indictments, but I don't know that Donnie will want to give up his nice airplane so easily.

We shall see.

[not_the_one]

64. Doesn't he have his own private plane?

It may be that this whole "rogue" ploy to give the "newly Saudi prince in charge" (MBS, BSM SMB, whatever...) an out without direct accountability, is to shore-up the agreement Jared reached many months ago (along with massive monetary bail-out assistance), of a place he and his guilty entourage could go to (with no extradition treaty with US) when he feels his only options left are to either flee, or risk going to jail.

He won't need Air Force One.

Besides, I bet his OWN plane has a faux gold encrusted toilet to receive the golden turd.

I just hope that we don't all end up dealing with another fitzmas situation. If all Mueller does is issue a report, nothing will happen.

UNLESS we take back BOTH houses of Congress.

[Thekaspervote]

5. Thank you! Sure sure hope this is true

[malaise]

6. That would be perfect

Oh yes!

[kimbutgar]

7. We can only hope

But I doubt it. We won’t get rid of the mf’er until he is voted out in 2020. Too many brainwashed zombie cult members are his base who are white and can vote without any restrictions.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

10. Even if he loses he may not leave. Remember him saying he'd only accept the results if he won.

Everybody laughed then, but that's before we learned just how extreme he was. Like your worst nightmares x 1,000 extreme.

He's got precedent to point to.

[bearsfootball516]

12. He can choose to not accept them all he wants, when the clock strikes noon on inauguration day...

He would no longer be president, and would have to exit the White House or be forcibly removed by the Secret Service.

[groundloop]

21. Now that's fun to think about.... Tiny being carried out kicking and screaming !!!!!

[kimbutgar]

42. Yeah, I loved that visual !!!

[Talitha]

66. With toilet paper clinging to his shoe...

[leftieNanner]

75. Lawrence O'D had a great response to this scenario

He said that the new President would be sworn in on January 20th and if Donnie Assface threw a tantrum and refused to leave the WH, the Secret Service would simply remove him because he would no longer be the President. And then the new President could move into HER new office!

[oldtime dfl_er]

8. I wish I had your confidence

I'm bracing for an October surprise...

[Progressive Jones]

32. That's what I'm concerned with. A false October Surprise from the radical right.

The GOP is most corrupt at election time.
Vote stealing, voter suppression, and an ignorant, loyal voting base.

[diane in sf]

9. from your keyboard to Goddesses eyeballs.

[Satch59]

11. Thank you for that sweet sweet dream!

Would be the most awesome dream come true! And it would leave that weekend open for a nationwide celebration!

[grantcart]

13. Add about 9 months

[torius]

14. Would make a great holiday creche!

The family all in orange jumpsuits surrounding bawling Toddler Don who hokds up a paper saying I QUIT.

[progressoid]

15. I'll have some of what you're smoking.

[BootinUp]

38. Pass that joint to me man, lol.

[Squinch]

16. I have March 2019 in the pool.

[Va Lefty]

17. That would be one helluva Christmas present

I don't see Traitor don resigning

[muntrv]

18. To dream the impossible dream........

[Quixote1818]

61. And I thought I was the only Don Quixote here

[djg21]

19. I don't think Trump will be indicted.

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Such an indictment likely would be challenged and held unconstitutional by SCOTUS.

I’m betting that Don Jr. and others in the family get indicted and the Donald is identified by name as an unindicted co-conspirator. He then will be impeached by the House, which will be controlled by the Dems. The Senate, which will remain in the control of the Republicans, will refuse to try Trump. Maybe Trump resigns to save his son, but I doubt it.

I’m hoping that you are right, and that the Senate flips. But I don’t think it likely.

[NewsCenter28]

24. It's impossible to overstate just how much everything changes once Nancy becomes Speaker-Elect

Once that happens, Special Counsel Mueller is no longer dealing with complicit GOP congress cretins, beholden and desperate to please Dotard. He will be unleashed. Also, Adam Schiff and Elijah Cummings being unleased will help out a lot.

I really do believe that Dem majority control of just one house is all Mueller needs to bring Trump down.

Additionally, I totally buy into your scenario that DT will be named as an unindicted co-conspirator in treasonous activites and I am counting on that along with the cumulative weight of the indictments to be what brings him down.

The one fly in the ointment is if the GOP still decides to hitch it's sails to a 25% approval President, which he would be once this comes to pass. If they do, then all bets are off.

[djg21]

72. You make two assumptions that may prove untrue.

First, I’m not sure that Pelosi will be the Speaker. If there’s one thing I’ve learned about politicians, all of them crave power and most will climb over their own mothers to advance their own political ambitions, irrespective of party. My bet is that there will be other contenders lining up to be Speaker. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/18/one-third-non-incumbent-house-democratic-candidates-dont-support-nancy-pelosi/?utm_term=.28a5e207c6e5

As a practical matter, it won’t matter who the speaker is so long as the Dems have the majority. The investigations will commence either way.

Second, you assume that once the House impeaches, McConnell and the Republicans in the Senate will try Trump. I don’t see this as happening, and while the Constitution is unclear as to the Senate’s obligation to conduct trials when the House impeaches, historical precedent indicates that it simply can decline to take up the matter. It literally would take a smoking gun and really, really awful optics before McConnell commits to a trial or compels Trump to resign (like Watergate, where SCOTUS ordered the tapes disclosed and the Senate then buckled and got Nixon to resign so a trial would be unnecessary).

Maybe we’ll get lucky and McConnell will be named as a conspirator too.

[NewsCenter28]

84. Because I adore her

Sorry, I adore Ms Pelosi so much and can’t wait to see her be Speaker again, I perhaps put too much emphasis on her personally. She’s a personal hero of mine and that’s coming from a man! What I really meant is that a Dem majority House instantly brings Russia to the very fore and will embolden Mueller, if he’s a honest actor, to really bring the hammer down on Russiagate and he has power even before the new congress is sworn in.

As far as a senate trial, Trent Lott ruled in 1998 that a senate must hold a trial on impeachment if the house sends impeachment articles on over. So, while granted they don’t need to follow a precedent one of their very own set, they may just be run out of town if they don’t hold a trial

Further, I am betting that the sheer force of the post-election Mueller indictments alone forces Trump out and there will be no need for a polticized impeachment process.

Nov 6 matters so much because I firmly believe Mueller is just waiting to have an ally before he moves and he gets one if the election prediction model posted in the OP is even close to being accurate!

[mahatmakanejeeves]

78. The amount of power that Nancy Pelosi -- or anyone else -- wields as speaker-elect is zero.

She has the right to sit there and fume as the lame duck Congress does as it damn well pleases.

[The Liberal Lion]

20. Well it's certainly optimistic.

I hope you are right

[djacq]

22. Truly a Christmas Wish.

[Pepsidog]

23. That was better than porn

[NewsCenter28]

25. Also thanks a lot for all the recs guys-N/T!

[bronxiteforever]

27. Mueller reports to DOJ not to the House

[Progressive Jones]

34. But the House would have Mueller's back.

If Mueller were fired, a Dem House would gladly pick up where he left off.

[tblue37]

28. I hope you're right! nt

[ooky]

29. That would be a terrific week for sure. The only thing that would make it better

is for Pence to also get indicted by Mueller and resign too, and Nancy Pelosi sworn in as President.

As long as we are dreaming we may as well dream big.

[RockRaven]

30. Trump's a coward, but that's more in personal interaction; he's also narcissistic and paranoid

That paranoia/distrust of others is what will prevent him from resigning.

He will never take an affirmative step to have less power when more power is available by just sitting on his ass, because of his fear of what others would do to him with that very power he's just given up.

[Generic Brad]

31. I appreciate your optimism

We're all so tired of this it would be a welcome relief.

[leanforward]

33. Anything is possible

I'll be checking back in on this thread poster. Did check out Optimus. Will check again in a few days.

[KentuckyWoman]

35. Dreams

[woundedkarma]

36. He would never resign. Not even if facing the firing squad. He believes he's doing a good job.

And that there was nothing wrong with anything he's done.

He doesn't see a dem house as a threat.

He doesn't see anything as a threat.

He thinks he is secure and without a problem in the world.

I don't think he's secure.

But I think he won't resign.

[Enoki33]

37. Interesting prediction, but l doubt it very much. The criminal

in charge will not resign, neither he be gracefully forced out. Especially now that he has rigged SCOTUS, which is a continuation of him using the legal system to intimidate opponents and cover his crimes. Think of the behavior of a weasel when cornered. There are dangerous waters ahead, and the ship of state is not in the best of sea worthy conditions. The good thing is there are still some really good sailors aboard, and reasons abound to give us hope as long as we continue to resist.

[Totally Tunsie]

39. Be still, my heart!

[Duppers]

40. How?? When Dems won't have Reps seated at that date, See..

"37 states, legislators who are elected in November don't assume office until the following year,
While in 13 states, legislators assume office before December 31 of the year in which they were elected."

https://ballotpedia.org/Swearing-in_dates_of_state_legislators_elected_on_November_6,_2018

[QED]

41. I hope so but I remember Fitzmas

I can't wait to see that smirk wiped off Don Jr's face.

[RainCaster]

43. Nice dream - it only works if everyone votes

[unc70]

44. Speaker-elect has no meaning until January

In November, Ryan would still be Speaker.

[IrishEyes]

45. That would be just in time for my birthday.

Trump resigning would be the second best birthday present ever. Trump, his family and his minions going to prison would be the best present ever.

[itsrobert]

46. I don't think Nancy will become Speaker-Elect

Time of new blood.

[TxVietVet]

47. I'm not a religious man.

I pray to GOD that this nightmare ends soon. When it goes down, I hope it takes all the conservanazis DOWN.

[George II]

48. As the saying goes, "from your lips to God's ears"!

[Dan]

49. well, item #1, probably not possible until January next year -

when New members take their position.

#2. Mueller probably won't release or indict until January 2019, again because the GOP congress is corrupt and one could almost say an active member of this Trump mess.


#3. If he resigns, the the Pence will pardon him on all federal charges.


sorry....

[Cousin Dupree]

50. You just gave me a politigasm

[ecstatic]

51. I think he sees the writing on the wall and will be gone BEFORE the election.

The stars are aligning that way, IMO.

[LuckyLib]

52. You're whipping us into a frenzy of hopefulness!

A welcome change from the tsunami of bad news that slime ball provides every day.
Thanks!

[SCantiGOP]

53. This just in

Revised Number 3 in the OP:

Iranian Navy inexplicably attacks US Navy in Gulf; Teheran destroyed by H-Bomb, martial law declared. All DU members ordered to report to re-education centers.

[NurseJackie]

54. Naaah. I doubt it.

[Hortensis]

73. Whatever happened to my optimistic nature? Agree. Sigh.

[nancy1942]

55. I admire your optimism.

[BobTheSubgenius]

56. I don't think Mueller is political AT ALL.

At least not his professional, public persona. From everything I've read about him, I fully expect him to follow the evidence until he feels he has come to an appropriate end to the investigation, and let the law guide him from there.

He knows this is his legacy.

[bearsfootball516]

57. I would be stunned if this happens.

[Grasswire2]

58. Law enforcement tells us that a dangerous man should be given a path out of public space...

....and then the police can take him down without collateral damage.

I think that applies here. Give Trump himself a way to leave without harm to himself -- and as soon as he agrees, charge the hell out of all the other family, seize all their assets, put them in prison or under federal parole, tighten down the screws to the fullest extent and restrict them from any business ventures. Then we would see the measure of the man. Alone, stripped. Gone.

[Honeycombe8]

59. I wish I were that optimistic. I'm not convinced Mueller has anything on Trump. TRUMP....

that's who is at the heart of everything.

Mueller will be very careful, cross every T, dot every i. If there isn't concrete evidence of anything regarding the man himself, the investigation dies with a whimper.

The report will not be released to the public.

[FakeNoose]

60. If we take both the House and the Senate, I agree with your scenario

But if we only win the House and not the Senate (more likely) then I don't think Cheeto will resign.
He'll drag it out and tell everyone that he can "beat" Mueller's charges.
We all know he can't, but it means spending the next 2 years kicking him out.
Even though it means throwing his entire family under a bus, he won't care.

Let's work hard for a blue tsunami in November!

[hostalover]

62. If only!!

[Charlotte Little]

63. Not happening, not that I don't admire you're thinking.

I don't think we're winning even the House back.

I hate to be this much of a downer and, no, I'm not a troll. I've been on this forum for several years.

But I do think the fix is in and that the fight we're about to enter will be one fought for decades to come. I also think I will die long before knowing the outcome.

I wish my gut told me otherwise. And I do hope you're right - or that, at least, the Dems take the House back and put the brakes on the destruction of this country.

But that's just not what I believe. Too much corruption and evil at the helm now.

To quote Shakespeare: "By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

[USALiberal]

65. Has been predicted weekly for months. Nt

[WhiteTara]

67. You left coup de gras

they sweep pence out with the rest of the traitors.

[sarisataka]

68. Bold is one adjective to describe these predictions

ludicrous is another

[garybeck]

69. Nov 9 is my birthday

That would be the best birthday present I ever got

[Raine]

70. Then we have President Pence

[USALiberal]

79. Which, IMO is worse. Nt

[Raine]

86. That's what I think too.. nt

[raccoon]

71. That would be the consummation of my dreams. Nt

[Cosmocat]

74. Fantastical

Hes in office until at least january 2021.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

76. Don't hold your breath. I'm not trying to be snarky, but I've heard this before. NT

[SHRED]

77. Why would he give up his power to pardon so easily?

[redstatebluegirl]

80. In our dreams, but I doubt it.

[MadDAsHell]

81. The irony: all our hopes wrapped up in a Republican (Mueller). I'm astounded by DUers confidence...

in him. I’ve seen this movie before though, so I’m preparing myself for Fitzmas 2.0.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

82. I'm not looking for the wine bottle opener either. NT

[Meowmee]

83. No matter what happens

I doubt he will ever resign.

[CrispyQ]

85. You've been smoking top shelf.

Trump will serve out his term & be the GOP nominee in 2020. If the dems are stupid about who they put at the top of the ticket, he could win a second term.