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mcar

(42,334 posts)
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 04:01 PM Oct 2018

Pierce: Elizabeth Warren Had to Engage With This Nonsense. That's What Our Politics Have Become.

Elizabeth Warren Had to Engage With This Nonsense. That's What Our Politics Have Become.
There was no better way to handle it.

BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
OCT 15, 2018

Yes, I am very sorry that our politics is in such a degraded state that it was even necessary for Senator Professor Warren to jump through this particular hoop. After all, the whole thing has been a buffoonish smear from the start, and it hasn't even been that much of a drawback to her political success. Scott Brown leaned heavily on the whole "fake Indian" thing in 2012, and all that did was make Senator McDreamy look like a dick. From The Boston Globe:

Warren, whose claims to Native American blood have been mocked by President Trump and other Republicans, provided the test results to the Globe on Sunday in an effort to defuse questions about her ancestry that have persisted for years. She planned an elaborate rollout Monday of the results as she aimed for widespread attention. The analysis of Warren’s DNA was done by Carlos D. Bustamante, a Stanford University professor and expert in the field who won a 2010 MacArthur fellowship, also known as a genius grant, for his work on tracking population migration via DNA analysis.

He concluded that “the vast majority” of Warren’s ancestry is European, but he added that “the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor.” Bustamante calculated that Warren’s pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That timing fits Warren’s family lore, passed down during her Oklahoma upbringing, that her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American.


This conforms to what's been told to me by practically every native-born Oklahoman I've ever met. But that's beside the point. If it had been me, I'd have told the president* to pound sand until he released his tax returns. This is further evidence that I never will be elected to anything, ever.

What makes SPW's announcement different is the video that comes with it. Not only does the video convincingly make the case that a) SPW had ancestors who were Native Americans and, b) that SPW did not depend on this to advance her career—something that the Globe had run down exhaustively in an earlier story—it also introduces her and her family to the public at large in a very shrewd and entertaining way. You get Momma and Daddy. You get her three big brothers talking about "Betsy." You get a nephew with a fabulous beard, and a family dog, snoozing away on the carpet. There are old family photos, being Ken Burns'ed at precise intervals.

At the same time, you get testimonial after testimonial about her gifts as a teacher. (When you have Charles Fried, who was Ronald Reagan's Solicitor General, and who is no flaming liberal, god knows, calling you "a tremendous teacher, an important scholar," you can't do much better as far as a bipartisan reference goes.) And the clearly political elements in the video, about how the president* uses Native Americans as a punchline, are more effective for having been grounded in her professional and personal story. The video reminds me of nothing more than it does that introductory video from Bernie Sanders's campaign in 2016, the one that used Paul Simon's "America" so effectively.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a23787339/elizabeth-warren-dna-test-pocahontas-native-american-heritage/
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Pierce: Elizabeth Warren Had to Engage With This Nonsense. That's What Our Politics Have Become. (Original Post) mcar Oct 2018 OP
K&R 2naSalit Oct 2018 #1
yep JHan Oct 2018 #2
Excellent post, excellent video. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2018 #3
The video is so good mcar Oct 2018 #8
+1 SunSeeker Oct 2018 #15
KnR Hekate Oct 2018 #4
Mahalo, mcar "Yeah, I'll show you my DNA when Cha Oct 2018 #5
How about the lying Dotard denying his offer, Cha? mcar Oct 2018 #9
Of course he did.. BIG FAT MOUTH PUlls Cha Oct 2018 #14
Oh, and how he says he needs to administer a DNA test personally. How does he tblue37 Oct 2018 #21
Creepy ignoramus mcar Oct 2018 #22
Absolutely brilliant video, and the message is "Be afraid." nolabear Oct 2018 #6
suckers Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #7
Love that hat ZeroSomeBrains Oct 2018 #18
Her video shows exactly what America is all about. dmr Oct 2018 #10
This exactly! mcar Oct 2018 #12
I feel sad that Warren felt she had to do this Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2018 #11
She did it so well, though mcar Oct 2018 #13
Yep. She took some sour lemons and made delicious lemonade. nt SunSeeker Oct 2018 #16
I read the earlier Globe piece on Senator Professor Warren ladym55 Oct 2018 #17
We need a spy at Harvard FakeNoose Oct 2018 #20
K & R Ohioboy Oct 2018 #19

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,640 posts)
3. Excellent post, excellent video.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 04:13 PM
Oct 2018

I think this was a smart and savvy move on Senator Warren's part.

If she gets the Democratic nomination for President, I will vote for her with great pleasure!

Cha

(297,323 posts)
5. Mahalo, mcar "Yeah, I'll show you my DNA when
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 04:49 PM
Oct 2018

you show us your tax returns you vile evil asshole".

mcar

(42,334 posts)
9. How about the lying Dotard denying his offer, Cha?
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 05:20 PM
Oct 2018

Who me? I never said I'd give $1 million.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
21. Oh, and how he says he needs to administer a DNA test personally. How does he
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 07:05 PM
Oct 2018

think they are administered? What an ignoramus.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
6. Absolutely brilliant video, and the message is "Be afraid."
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 04:54 PM
Oct 2018

They know what they’re doing. They can make Spanky and his ilk look like nothing but assholes. She’s the actual representative of Middle America. I hope it’s part of a beautiful, coordinated plan.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,355 posts)
7. suckers
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 05:02 PM
Oct 2018

Once again, facts reveal that everyone who believes Don the Con is a sucker.

If I were an artist, I'd draw a crowd of suckers with MAGA hats, with speech balloons coming in from the right containing quotes from the Dotard: "Only I can fix it!" "Build the wall!" "Chinese hoax!", etc.


dmr

(28,347 posts)
10. Her video shows exactly what America is all about.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 05:29 PM
Oct 2018

It shows how I view America.

Family bonds. Strength of character. Honesty and integrity. Caring and giving.

That should resonate with all Americans.

The video also displays the lack of moral character in those who made fun of Senator Warren, and the shameful disrespect shown to all Native Americans while doing so.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
11. I feel sad that Warren felt she had to do this
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 05:36 PM
Oct 2018

It's never about proving Trump wrong. Trump doesn't actually care about whether he's right or wrong and neither do his supporters. For him, the fact that he got somebody to simply respond to him and *do* something he demanded feeds his ego and validates his behavior. My guess is that she might run for POTUS against Trump and wanted to neutralize the whole "Pocahontas" attack line but it won't matter what the results say. He and his supporters will still use it and then he will gaslight us and tell us that somebody else started the whole nonsense and that he put a stop to it. He's ALREADY gaslighting us by saying that he never promised to give a million dollars to her favorite charity. We need to stop playing into this fool's hands and basically give him the middle finger when he tries to pull this sort of s**t!

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
17. I read the earlier Globe piece on Senator Professor Warren
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:08 PM
Oct 2018

It was so incredibly offensive and degrading. The Globe went on and on and on about how Senator Warren did NOT use her Native American heritage to give her an advantage at any point in her career. It was the result of hours and hours of examining detailed records. Why was it necessary???

All I could think of was of all the wealthy white privileged males who toddle off automatically to places like Harvard and Yale (Hello, Brett Kavanaugh and Dubya) just because well, they are wealthy, white, and seriously connected. They are ALL there on merit ... like Jared Kushner. No one questions if any of THEM got any "special" treatment or advantages. That is saved for a woman who had to work her a$$ off at every step of her career.

What if Globe reporters had spent all those resources on investigating some of the ongoing corruption that is daily life in Trumpistan? The mind boggles.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
20. We need a spy at Harvard
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 07:00 PM
Oct 2018

... who can dig up old records on these guys.

Let's see their SAT scores, their college transcripts, the "permanent records" of all the trouble they got into in college. I'm sure Harvard has old filing cabinets in the administration building's basement that have the scoop on these guys. In the case of Trump it would be University of Pennsylvania where he probably never graduated. I'll bet his Daddy bought his degree with a huge donation to the school.



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