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There's a reason we don't see Abraham Lincoln's face. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2018 OP
Beauty! ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #1
It's hard to imagine Honest Abe enjoying the company of Tricky, W, or Chump struggle4progress Oct 2018 #2
Yeah, really??? Roosevelt? hunter Oct 2018 #3
First politician to advocate for universal health insurance grantcart Oct 2018 #6
+ struggle4progress Oct 2018 #11
Or Eisenhower either! bobbieinok Oct 2018 #4
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, struggle4progress Oct 2018 #15
Thank you for this important quote. From a republican who was an actual human being bobbieinok Oct 2018 #18
Great Quote....thanks for posting this. One of my favorite quotes any politician of any kind has.. Stuart G Oct 2018 #19
My Wild West paternal grandpa was a solid Eisenhower Republican... hunter Oct 2018 #26
I am surprised he even included GHW Bush in that monstrosity. GoCubsGo Oct 2018 #20
I think TR would have liked Nixon jmowreader Oct 2018 #27
IMO Nixon signed those only because it would have been political suicide to oppose them struggle4progress Oct 2018 #30
Doubtful any Republican president after Nixon would have signed them jmowreader Oct 2018 #32
IIRC Under Nixon, some government forestry phones were automatically forwarded struggle4progress Oct 2018 #34
Too many white supremacists would freak out if they saw Lincoln bobbieinok Oct 2018 #5
Who painted this glurge? NT lisby Oct 2018 #7
Here: EX500rider Oct 2018 #13
Grr, the BBC is using "Democrat" the way Goopers do. geardaddy Oct 2018 #24
Notice the same woman in both. Kurt V. Oct 2018 #29
A hackjob named Andy Thomas Mr. Big Oct 2018 #14
And shouldn't Trump be FATTER and his hands SMALLER? Let's be accurate. pdsimdars Oct 2018 #8
Yes, but if he was painted true to scale 1 or perhaps 2 more presidents would have to be blocked out miffelplix Oct 2018 #17
they have a bar in hell? spanone Oct 2018 #9
Trump's diaper is full rurallib Oct 2018 #16
well, that does make sense since he's full of.... spanone Oct 2018 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2018 #10
Coolidge is lurking around RGTIndy Oct 2018 #12
welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2018 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author kskiska Oct 2018 #22
Well, yeah. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2018 #23
They should replace TR and Lincoln geardaddy Oct 2018 #25
Where is Donnie Two Scoops' right hand? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2018 #28
Massaging the mushroom? MontanaMama Oct 2018 #31
Lincoln, Teddy, Ike would be democrats today. Blue_true Oct 2018 #33

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
2. It's hard to imagine Honest Abe enjoying the company of Tricky, W, or Chump
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 01:54 PM
Oct 2018

I don't think conservationist progressive Teddy would have thought much of that crowd either

hunter

(38,317 posts)
3. Yeah, really??? Roosevelt?
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 02:05 PM
Oct 2018
Roosevelt, a Progressive reformer, earned a reputation as a "trust buster" through his regulatory reforms and anti-trust prosecutions. His presidency saw the passage of the Pure Food and Drug Act, which established the Food and Drug Administration to regulate food safety, and the Hepburn Act, which increased the regulatory power of the Interstate Commerce Commission. Roosevelt took care, however, to show that he did not disagree with trusts and capitalism in principle, but was only against monopolistic practices.

...

Roosevelt was a prominent conservationist, putting the issue high on the national agenda. Roosevelt's conservation efforts were aimed not just at environment protection, but also at ensuring that society as a whole, rather than just select individuals or companies, benefited from the country's natural resources. His key adviser and subordinate on environmental matters was Gifford Pinchot, the head of the Bureau of Forestry. Roosevelt increased Pinchot's power over environmental issues by transferring control over national forests from the Department of the Interior to the Bureau of Forestry, which was part of the Agriculture Department. Pinchot's agency was renamed to the United States Forest Service, and Pinchot presided over the implementation of assertive conservationist policies in national forests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Theodore_Roosevelt


Trump is exactly the sort of scum Teddy Roosevelt would scorn.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
15. "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense,
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:27 PM
Oct 2018

a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some 50 miles of concrete highway. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron."

Dwight Eisenhower
"The Chance for Peace"
delivered Before the American Society of Newspaper Editors
April 16, 1953

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=9819&st=every+gun+that+is+made&st1=#axzz1ZRmq4yT4

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
19. Great Quote....thanks for posting this. One of my favorite quotes any politician of any kind has..
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:32 PM
Oct 2018

ever made. Thank You again..

hunter

(38,317 posts)
26. My Wild West paternal grandpa was a solid Eisenhower Republican...
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:46 PM
Oct 2018

... and Army Air Corp officer in World War II.

My grandpa wasn't without fault, he lost his shit when I married in his words "a Mexican girl," which just wasn't done in his family, but to his credit he got over it.

Nevertheless, he put his ass on the line to fight Nazis. I doubt he'd have been duped by a New York City slicker grifter and draft dodger like Trump, or a worm like Mike Pence.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
20. I am surprised he even included GHW Bush in that monstrosity.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:33 PM
Oct 2018

Didn't the elder Bush ban Mushroom Dick from Barbara's funeral? And, didn't he make it known that he voted for Hillary?

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
27. I think TR would have liked Nixon
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:48 PM
Oct 2018

Nixon was probably worse than his reputation makes him out to be, but the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act and the Occupational Safety and Health Act all have Nixon's signature on them.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
32. Doubtful any Republican president after Nixon would have signed them
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:31 PM
Oct 2018

Trump would have sent nasty tweets about the "job destroying Democrats" until they were all withdrawn.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
34. IIRC Under Nixon, some government forestry phones were automatically forwarded
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 07:36 PM
Oct 2018

to the private offices of timber lobbyists

Nixon never seemed to me a great friend of any public health and safety or environmental protection initiative

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
13. Here:
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:25 PM
Oct 2018

"Called The Republican Club, the artwork was created by Andy Thomas. The artist, who lives in Missouri, United States, was "ecstatic" to discover his art displayed in the White House, he told Time.

Republican congressman Darrell Issa reportedly gave it to the President.

Mr Thomas has painted a number of iconic figures and events from US history, including civil war battles and other paintings of past presidents spending time together. The artist has painted an equivalent version of the scene hanging in the White House featuring Democrat presidents."

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-45861868

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
24. Grr, the BBC is using "Democrat" the way Goopers do.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:44 PM
Oct 2018

"The artist has painted an equivalent version of the scene hanging in the White House featuring Democrat presidents."

And why is that racist Jackson in the Democratic version? They should have Cleveland or Jefferson instead.

Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

 

RGTIndy

(203 posts)
12. Coolidge is lurking around
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:23 PM
Oct 2018

hoping in vain to be invited over. Grant on the other hand, appears to be deciding whether to kick everyone's ass.

Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
23. Well, yeah.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:37 PM
Oct 2018

He's not a Republican after all. (Although Lincoln was a personal hero of his).

IIRC, the artist did a companion piece for Democratic presidents.

It's kitsch art. Fine for souvenir shops at Dulles or National, but rather silly to have at the actual White House.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. Lincoln, Teddy, Ike would be democrats today.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:55 PM
Oct 2018

They stood for the exact opposite of what the Republican Party stands for.

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