BREAKING: Kamala Harris called on Franken to resign

[Renew Deal]

[jodymarie aimee]

1. ok, I love her

but numerosity is NOT a word...and she is wrong.

[DarthDem]

10. It Actually Is a Word

Common in the law and biology.

[EffieBlack]

24. Actually, it is.

[jodymarie aimee]

27. ok

I shall start using it in my daily conversations...thank you.

[Autumn]

2. Who didn't call for him to resign after the call rang out?

[Renew Deal]

4. I don't know

But people seem to forget she did.

[Autumn]

11. I've never forgotten. I still prefer her over Gillibrand.

[Funtatlaguy]

8. Thank you. So did Schumer. Sexual assault is Gillibrands signature issue. Many here

believe that she led the charge against Franken and overreached forcing his resignation.

Now, I’m done with this 2020 topic... 22 days before the midterms....ready to knock some doors and make some calls. Blue wave 🌊 on the way.....

[DFW]

13. Here you go

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/full-list-senators-call-for-al-franken-to-resign-282175

[Autumn]

15. Yes it was a couple of dozen of them who all dog piled on.

[DFW]

20. Thirty-three if I got the count right

There were a LOT of names on that list I REALLY wish hadn't been on there.

[Autumn]

26. Same here. Just because she led the charge doesn't mean they had to pile on.

They should have allowed it to play out.

[brooklynite]

25. Manchin 2020!

[Autumn]

32. Manchin say's he's open to supporting Trump in 2020. Maybe your wish will come true.

[brooklynite]

48. I won't be supporting Manchin in 2020...

...but he's the only Democratic Senator who didn't call for Franken to step down, if that's your exacting standard.

[Autumn]

49. Only problem is that's not my exacting standard so don't quit your day job.

[Hortensis]

76. :) I got it. Manchin played the Repub side on this one,

attacking all senators who realized Franken had to resign, except for Franken himself of course. One would have thought, listening to Manchin, that Manchin was his only friend in the senate, instead of sticking a shiv in all their backs, especially Franken's.

The Repubs, and Manchin, would have LOVED it if Franken had spent 8 hours (2 days?, 3?) in a hearing broadcast nationwide while his accusers explained in detail just how he supposedly stuck his tongue down their throats and fondled their buttocks in public.

[Blue_true]

70. Joe Manchin. nt

[Autumn]

71. There were 49 Dems in the Senate, I don't think Manchin was the only one

who didn't call on him to resign.

[Hortensis]

75. Shouldn't everyone's question be, why this attack on Harris now?

Renew Deal, WTF? Have you decided the Republicans are right that Senator Harris would be a redoubtable candidate and that they need to take her out -- as they did Senator Franken -- as soon as possible?

[Autumn]

77. The question should be, why are there attacks on any of our Dems and allies?

The pot stirring doesn't stop.

[Hortensis]

79. You don't know we're in an enormous battle for

power and the future of our country? God! I actually believe that.

[Autumn]

80. That's rude. I posted that our Dems and allies are being attacked.

WTF is your problem? Harris is in the top of my list of Dems that I support.

You don't know we're in an enormous battle for
power and the future of our country? God! I actually believe that.

[Hortensis]

82. I'm sorry but still don't understand. Were you also

questioning the intent of the OP?

There are some here who are so committed to internecine fighting that they seem to have trouble remembering there is another party and don't believe it poses half the danger the majority alliance in our party does. When Republicans take out one of our senators, they're as incapable of understanding what happened as Trump is of understanding anything he refuses to believe. You cannot convince him. Bizarre.

"In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally." ~ Trump, who knows it's all true.

[Autumn]

83. Yes, I was questioning why the single post about her. She wasn't the only one to join in

on calls for him to resign yet she's singled out. I didn't like that they did that but what's done is done. There are too many attacks here on Dems and our allies. Discussing them and their actions
that people can agree or disagree on is one thing but posting to stir the pot and spread shit is an entirely different matter.

[left-of-center2012]

3. Why is the "BREAKING" ? It's old

from youtube info:
CNN
Published on Dec 6, 2017

[Renew Deal]

5. Because everyone seemed to forget

[melman]

23. They don't forget

They just ignore inconvenient facts. That's always the way here.

It's been decided that Kirsten Gillibrand is the one and only villain...and that's that.

[Cha]

72. Leading Democrats, Bernie Sanders Turns on Al Franken in 'Watershed Moment' in Sexual Harassment

Scandal

https://www.newsweek.com/al-franken-photo-bernie-sanders-democrats-714494

[DFW]

14. It was not meant to be taken literally n/t

[brooklynite]

28. We're going through another cycle of 1) "who should be President" and 2) "we hate Gillibrand" posts

[lovemydogs]

6. It is disappointing but, was she the first to call on him to resign?

[uponit7771]

7. Didn't she retract this later?

[MoonRiver]

9. And, if she runs, she will be questioned about that, probably over and over

by both other Democratic candidates and Idiot. I like her, a lot, but what happened to Franken is a stain on her and all the others who forced him to resign.

[WeekiWater]

65. Many of them have won primaries and are currently running in elections.

I haven't heard one of them asked while on the campaign trail.

[MoonRiver]

67. Who are you talking about?

[elfin]

12. Didn't want him as a possible opponent?

Many many others went along with KG. Even Baldwin, whom I support here in Wisconsin. The strongest voices IMO wanted him out of the way of their own career paths early on.

I disagree with all of them but will support Baldwin due to the climate here in Wisconsin.

I will never primary support with money or vote any of them in a Pres primary.

Proactively denying due process when an accused has requested it is not a behavior our party should value.

Some were elbowed into it, some vociferously led the charge.

I am not crazy about Baldwin, but her opponent is of the wingnut Repub wing.

I am very uncomfortable with blatant sexist campaigns on either side.

[DFW]

18. I could be wrong, but that's not the kind of vibe I get from Harris

I think the prosecutor in her got the best of her judgment, and she didn't want to be seen as weak. She should have sided with the Innocence Project instead on this one. I am betting this was nothing other than an error in judgement on Harris' part. A massive one, and, for me, one never to be forgotten, but I don't think her primary motive was the cold, calculated elimination of someone she saw as a potential presidential rival down the road.

[uponit7771]

69. +1, I think issue with Gilderbrand was she already looked like an opportunist with the NRA stance

[CincyDem]

17. I didn't hear her call for his resignation...

...what I heard was something to the effect of saying - these charges have weight. OK. So what does a prosecutor do with charges that have weight...they investigate.

I didn't her her jump to judgment as the headline might imply.

IMHO

[DFW]

19. Here are her words, judge for yourself:

Sexual harassment and misconduct should not be allowed by anyone and should not occur anywhere. I believe the best thing for Senator Franken to do is step down.

— Kamala Harris (@SenKamalaHarris) December 6, 2017

[CincyDem]

29. OK - don't disagree with what she's saying there. That's not what was in the video clip.

[DFW]

40. I didn't listen to the video clip. I'm in a train between Brussels and Kln trying to get home

I don't want to disturb the other passengers with my speakers.

However, I think that "I believe the best thing for Senator Franken to do is step down" pretty much constitutes "calling for his resignation."

I had better not let my mood color my sentiments here. I left Brussels at 2:40 local time. Due to a hostage situation in Köln, I am shuttling back and forth between Aachen and Düren trying to find SOME train that will get to Düsseldorf before midnight. (it's 6:40 PM, and I should have been home an hour ago)

[CincyDem]

47. Good luck.

I spent a lot of time in the early 80s schlepping Brussels to Achen so I know the drill. Best part was Chez Leon mussels.

Good luck.

[DFW]

56. Been on the road since 6 AM and it's now 8 PM

If I'm lucky, I'll make it home by 10:30. I have to work in 4 different countries from Wednesday to Sunday, so I think I'm taking tomorrow off! Currently somewhere between Aachen and Köln (I think the hostage situation has finally been resolved--only been going on for 8 hours!).

[WeekiWater]

66. IMO

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Warren was going to run for President in 2016.

[bigtree]

21. christ, Franken took himself out of office

...he resigned without naming those calling for the same as the cause or reason.

Why do they get any blame at all for reaching the same conclusion Franken did?

[rogue emissary]

22. This is a troll post. Clearly it isn't breaking news.

[LovingA2andMI]

92. Not Breaking News At All....

Is There A DU Rule Violation To Address This?

[stonecutter357]

30. #facknews !

[Guilded Lilly]

31. I will vote and support Democrats over Republicans, period. However, the list...

Of Democrats piling on Franken have always smacked of those wanting the elimination of a potential political primary opponent.

Deep competition is the nature of the political beast. Many of those Democrats I was very sorry to see on the pile on list. A shaking-my-head angry moment of WTF. It won’t turn me away from the party.
It just truly disappointed.
Yeah, it totally SUCKED.
I won’t forget.

[LanternWaste]

33. And here we go devolving...

I'd thought the worst of who we can be wouldn't be available until after the mid-terms, but here we are, hip deep and sinking fast into the lowest common denominators.

[democratisphere]

34. We can do better.

[beachbum bob]

35. at this point who cares? We have bigger battles to wage in coming 22 days

[Kurt V.]

36. this is still a thing?

[obnoxiousdrunk]

39. It's a hit piece.

[Renew Deal]

41. A hit piece?

The only thing there is her words. No opinion or commentary. So who is it hitting?

[padah513]

37. I don't understand this.

Why are people deliberately posting pieces that they know will have everybody up in arms? We have three weeks until the midterms. Can't we have a cease-fire on all the nonsense until they're over? Now is the time for unity, not division.

[mtnsnake]

38. It was Kirsten Gillibrand who was the first Dem senator to call for Al to resign, NOT Kamala Harris

Gillibrand is the person responsible for putting pressure on the other female Democratic senators to follow suit. If Gillibrand didn't start the entire thing, Franken might still be with us.

[Renew Deal]

42. Sounds like leadership to me

She spoke and everyone followed.

[mtnsnake]

46. Yes, the kind of leadership that leads everyone over a cliff

[OnDoutside]

50. Hahaha, that's a winner !

[octoberlib]

84. +1

[USALiberal]

55. Lol, she fucked up, and it will cost her. Which is great!!!

[rusty fender]

59. Bullshit!

Franken’s resignation was going to come sooner later because of the accusations. You hate Gillibrand because you love Franken. Time to get over your junior high crush

[mtnsnake]

63. Bullshit? No way. Gillibrand most certainly was the 1st Dem senator to call for Franken to resign

She got it all going. Thanks, Kirsten, for being so instrumental in causing one of our most valuable assets to be gone.

BTW, if anyone has a crush, it's not me. It's you with Gillibrand. That much is obvious, but nice try.

[lancelyons]

43. Is this just another attempt to divide Dems?

[Renew Deal]

44. No, the opposite

Getting everyone to agree on the facts.

[Iggo]

62. Yes.

That's exactly what this is.

[Ferrets are Cool]

89. No doubt about this...it should be removed IMO

but then, I'm a nobody here.

[Scurrilous]

45. Breaking: Scab picking is a nasty habit.

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[Blecht]

51. This is how I know when to add somebody to my ignore list

Troll bullshit.

[Taraman]

54. Agreed

[lark]

52. I have to say that her call for Franken to resign with no investigation, turned me off badly.

She was my favorite but no more. I'm sorry, anyone who cares nothing for the truth doesn't deserve my full throated support. She wasn't the ringleader, that was Gillibrand, but she fell in line with the "shoot then aim" crowd. I will not vote for either in the primary, actions have consequences. I will vote for her and work for her if she's the candidate in the general because that is all important snd critical to our survival as a nation.

[vi5]

53. Breaking: Kirsten Gillibrand was a conservative Blue Dog Democrat

I figured in the spirit of this thread which seems to be to exonerate the person who led the charge against Franken by posting old news. I'm assuming this is because of recent polls which show Gillibrand tied with Avenatti in terms of 2020 popularity that the effort is underway to rehabilitate her image.

The fact is that she was a problematic Democratic candidate before the Franken thing and has a lot of other strikes against her that others (such as Harris and Warren) who also called for Franken's ouster do not.

This isn't a single issue thing, it's a question of that person's political history taken as a whole.

[Iggo]

57. Breaking: Kamala Harris is black.

[AncientGeezer]

86. Has what relevance?

[Iggo]

90. Obvious relevance is obvious.

[LovingA2andMI]

93. Yep...

Obvious....

[Iggo]

58. Breaking: Kamala Harris is a woman.

[AncientGeezer]

87. Has what relevance?

[Iggo]

91. Obvious relevance is obvious.

[EffieBlack]

60. Breaking?

Seriously?

[Iggo]

61. He felt he needed to remind people.

It seemed to him that people were forgetting.

[WeekiWater]

64. Sen. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii:

"Today, I am calling on my colleague Al Franken to step aside. I’ve struggled with this decision because he’s been a good Senator and I consider him a friend. But that cannot excuse his behavior and his mistreatment of women," Hirono wrote on Twitter.

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Sen. Tammy Duckworth of Illinois:

“I am deeply disappointed by Senator Franken’s behavior. He must step aside. To all those across America who have come forward to share their stories over the past few months: thank you. Your courage and strength in driving this long-overdue national conversation is awe-inspiring. As national leaders, we must hold ourselves to a higher standard — and we must lead by example to ensure every person is treated with the dignity and respect they deserve. This isn’t about Democrats or Republicans, it’s about our society. It’s about who we are as a people and the kind of country we want our daughters — and our sons — to grow up in," Duckworth said in a statement.

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts:

"I think he should resign," Warren said in a statement to POLITICO. A spokesperson said Warren had urged him privately to step aside.

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island:

“Given what we have learned in recent weeks, I expect Senator Franken to step aside," Whitehouse said in a statement.

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Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut:

"The increasing number of women coming forward suggests a pattern of repeated harassment and unacceptable behavior that is impossible to ignore. Senator Franken has denied some of these allegations and has the right to continue to seek a process through the Ethics Committee, but I believe the best course of action for him right now is to step down, as I expect he will do tomorrow," said in a statement.

Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey:

"I think it's time for him to step down," Booker told reporters.

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Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island:

“I think Senator Franken should resign. The accumulating accusations and acknowledgment that inappropriate behavior took place cannot be countenanced. Sexual harassment must not be tolerated and this is part of a larger national discussion that is long overdue and must lead to fundamental change and lasting progress," Reed said in a statement.

Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, an independent who caucuses with the Democratic Party:

“Sen. Franken has said that he will be making an announcement about his political future tomorrow. The right thing is for him to resign. We are now at a crossroads in American culture. And it is an important one. The way we treat women in our country has been abysmal in almost every way. We are finally addressing the issue of sexual harassment, and we need to get it right. But the conversation we are having now is only the tip of the iceberg. It needs to be an ongoing movement of women and men that includes a national discussion about sexism, sexual harassment, objectification, inequality and abuse of power,” Sanders said in a statement.

Manchin for President

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

68. So did Sanders, Brown, Warren and most of the Senate

So who do you have left?

[VOX]

73. Flame-bait on the half-shell.

No thanks, I’m full.

[ananda]

74. She's not the only person available to run.

nt

[TheRealNorth]

78. Snotty Walker approves this message (@ OP)

This message brought to you by the Koch Brother, The Bradley Foundation, and the letters AEI

[stonecutter357]

81. fuck putin!

[all american girl]

85. Yes, we know, always blame women for men's stupid behaviors.

You do realize that a lot of men called for the same thing also, right? So why are you going after one woman?

[Joe941]

88. He was railroaded... still mad about this.

[nini]

94. I was disappointed when she did that.. She's still my first choice

.