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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:43 AM Oct 2018

Conservatives lamenting that liberals are forcing them to vote for Trump.

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/10/15/party-personal-responsibility-now-party-libs-made-me-do-it/221669

Each of these stories could be thusly summed up: I didn’t want to vote for Trump or his congressional enablers … but look what you made me do. In other words, it’s your fault that we’re here.

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One variation on this trope is the rejoinder, “This is how you got Trump.” Again on Twitter, Lewis reminds readers that though he’s spent years “lamenting the rise of what came to be called ‘Trumpism’ on the Right,” we should remember at least two of the real causes behind the phenomenon: “liberal media bias” and “the radicalization of the Left.”

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Surely some of those were meant as jokes, but they illustrate something important within modern politics: No one can ever be to blame for their own actions. “How you got Trump” is that Republicans voted for him during the party’s 2016 primary and then went on to cast their ballots for him in the general election. Yes, of course there were other factors, such as Obama voters who crossed over to Trump, Democrats and independents who sat the election out, voter suppression and disenfranchisement efforts, and so on. None of them, however, were tweets, salads, or sketches during awards shows. Voters -- Trump voters -- gave us Trump. At least that would seem apparent.

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The underlying argument is that to be successful at the polls, Democrats need to abandon many of the things that differentiate them from Republicans -- which, in Greenbaum’s argument, involves becoming “the party of” a former Republican mayor -- or else conservatives will have no choice but to continue their rightward march.
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Conservatives lamenting that liberals are forcing them to vote for Trump. (Original Post) DetlefK Oct 2018 OP
Oh please, make it stop . . . . Iliyah Oct 2018 #1
Regarding the radicalization: Garrett78 Oct 2018 #2
they're rightwing reactionarkys! pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #3
If they think that Trump is better liberals Chickensoup Oct 2018 #4
Classic argument of bullies, spousal abusers, and shitty parents... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #5
Complete bullshit. They could just have not voted for President, or voted third party or write in Freethinker65 Oct 2018 #6
How many in the Primary? zipplewrath Oct 2018 #7
Yeah, I say that all the time too. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #10
I heard stories of bullies in elementary school DFW Oct 2018 #8
Republicans were the ones that selected Trump as a candidate, so that's all on them. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #9

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Oh please, make it stop . . . .
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:51 AM
Oct 2018

GOPers are ALWAYS blaming bullshit on Liberals. I'm tired of it. Conservatives always and it never fails, vote against their own interst.

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
3. they're rightwing reactionarkys!
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:57 AM
Oct 2018

please the terms 'conservative' and even 'republican' is intentionally misleading...these pipple are radical political gangsters, who hide behind flag and constant lies! Trump farted, and the nation stinks and nazipoo's shouldn't be allowed to call that 'public service'!

Chickensoup

(650 posts)
4. If they think that Trump is better liberals
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:00 AM
Oct 2018

While Trump had wiped the floor with them
on their way out of the GOP then just
let them. Even god can't get every
one to love him!!!!!!

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
5. Classic argument of bullies, spousal abusers, and shitty parents...
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:02 AM
Oct 2018

Right up there with "This hurts me more than it hurts you."

Yeah, right. If it hurts so bad why do you enjoy doing it so much?

"Vote for me or I'll vote for Trump again."

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
6. Complete bullshit. They could just have not voted for President, or voted third party or write in
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:06 AM
Oct 2018

I know Republicans that voted for Johnson, not because they wanted Johnson, but because they thought Hillary would win anyway and no way in hell were they voting for Trump.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
7. How many in the Primary?
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:07 AM
Oct 2018

Liberals didn't vote in the GOP primary. They had what, 12? choices. They picked Trump. No one forced them to and they could have picked anyone from Cruz to Kasich. THEY picked Trump.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
10. Yeah, I say that all the time too.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:23 AM
Oct 2018

They are a bunch of fools. Democrats aren't to blame for them selecting Trump as a candidate. We can't vote in their primaries.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
8. I heard stories of bullies in elementary school
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:12 AM
Oct 2018

"Give me a dollar or I will kick your sister." When the dollar was not forthcoming, and the sister got kicked, the bully cried, "NOW look what you made me do!"

I don't buy it, and I wouldn't encourage anyone else to, either.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
9. Republicans were the ones that selected Trump as a candidate, so that's all on them.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:21 AM
Oct 2018

They overwhelmingly voted for Trump and they had like 10 people running. It wasn't like they didn't have any other options.

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