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Last edited Mon Oct 15, 2018, 12:42 PM - Edit history (1)
Spoiler - he uses the word "Nubile" to describe "18 year old young men and women."
In 2016, Buzzfeed News discovered an op-ed written in 1999 by current Vice-President Mike Pence where he complains the Disney movie Mulan proves there is no place for women in the military, you know, because of all the sex stuff that goes on between men and women.
The only problem with this liberal hope is the reality which intrudes on the Disney ideal from the mornings headlines. From the original "Tailhook" scandal involving scores of high ranking navy fighter pilots who molested subordinate women to the latest travesty at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, the hard truth of our experiment with gender integration is that is has been an almost complete disaster for the military and for many of the individual women involved. When Indiana Congressman Steve Buyer was appointed to investigate the Aberdeen mess, he shocked the public with the revelation that young, nubile, 18 year old men and women were actually being HOUSED together during basic training. Whatever bone head came up with this idea should be run out of this man's Army before sundown. Housing, in close quarters, young men and women (in some cases married to non-military personnel) at the height of their physical and sexual potential is the height of stupidity. It is instructive that even in the Disney film, young Ms. Mulan falls in love with her superior officer! Me thinks the politically correct Disney types completely missed the irony of this part of the story. They likely added it because it added realism with which the viewer could identify with the characters.
You see, now stay with me on this, many young men find many young women to be attractive sexually. Many young women find many young men to be attractive sexually. Put them together, in close quarters, for long periods of time, and things will get interesting. Just like they eventually did for young Mulan. Moral of story: women in military, bad idea.
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DetlefK
(16,423 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)llmart
(15,540 posts)I bet a psychiatrist or psychologist would have a field day with this guy trying to figure out just what happened to him as a child.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,358 posts)Siwsan
(26,270 posts)They ran out of space in the 'female barracks' so the overflow had to go to one of the larger male barracks. The original plan was females on the 2nd floor and males on the 3rd. But then they had to open some rooms on the 3rd floor, and I ended up in one of those.
The entire year I was there we NEVER - not ONCE - had any problems in that barracks. The atmosphere was the most comfortable I ever experienced, in military housing. We had one big TV lounge/recreation area so on the nights we were at the enlisted or Marine club, a whole lot of us were gathered, watching some really awful Armed Forces tv, playing games or just talking.
During the weekends, especially when the weather was bad, people just left the doors to their rooms open and came and went, just visiting. And, if anyone had acted up, I have no doubt they would have been dealt with, rapidly. Who knows - that could have happened but nobody felt the need to broadcast the situation. I think the guys knew that if the stepped out of line, there was a sizable group that would put them to rights because nobody wanted any bad light to shine on our unique living arrangements.
Shortly after I left, the new Admiral expressed his extreme shock, and immediately re-segregated all enlisted housing.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Maybe we should stop listening to people who are not and were not in the military when we discuss issue concerning the military. I understand that in some cases people like Senator Kirsten Gillibrand might be able to handle military issues better than people who are in the military. However, maybe we need to start being leery of people who are not in the military and who have not served in the military when it come to military policy. Those people might just be letting their biases dictate how they feel about an issue.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)People like Mike Pence act like 18 year old cannot control themselves. Putting 18 year old in the same room together does not mean they are going to have sex with each other. The way to try to prevent such a thing is the set up rules and punish all of those who break the rules.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)Get used to it, fundies.