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Donkees

(31,422 posts)
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 07:35 AM Oct 2018

Warren releases results of DNA test

By Annie Linskey GLOBE STAFF OCTOBER 15, 2018

Excerpt:

WASHINGTON — Senator Elizabeth Warren has released a DNA test that provides “strong evidence’’ she had a Native American in her family tree dating back 6 to 10 generations, an unprecedented move by one of the top possible contenders for the 2020 Democratic nomination for president.

Warren, whose claims to Native American blood have been mocked by President Trump and other Republicans, provided the test results to the Globe on Sunday in an effort to defuse questions about her ancestry that have persisted for years. She planned an elaborate rollout Monday of the results as she aimed for widespread attention.

The analysis of Warren’s DNA was done by Carlos D. Bustamante, a Stanford University professor and expert in the field who won a 2010 MacArthur fellowship, also known as a genius grant, for his work on tracking population migration via DNA analysis.

Bustamante calculated that Warren’s pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That timing fits Warren’s family lore, passed down during her Oklahoma upbringing, that her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/10/15/warren-addresses-native-american-issue/YEUaGzsefB0gPBe2AbmSVO/story.html






Published on Oct 15, 2018
Get the full story about Elizabeth Warren's Native American heritage from Elizabeth’s family and the people who hired her, and review the personnel records and other documents for yourself. http://www.ElizabethWarren.com/Heritage

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Warren releases results of DNA test (Original Post) Donkees Oct 2018 OP
It took courage .... Shoonra Oct 2018 #1
Trump said he would give a million Dollars HopeAgain Oct 2018 #2
Yes, perfect :) Donkees Oct 2018 #7
Yep, and let him stiff that charity at his own risk Ohioboy Oct 2018 #13
I won't hold my breath vlyons Oct 2018 #22
He is denying he said it polmaven Oct 2018 #37
Yes, and he said "Who Cares'' Donkees Oct 2018 #43
Yes, she should ask him to do this. EOM TruckFump Oct 2018 #31
She did malaise Oct 2018 #42
Skip ahead in this video to 2:05 Bengus81 Oct 2018 #45
It pisses me off that Sen Warren had to do this. TexasProgresive Oct 2018 #3
Yep. Just another version of "Show me your birth certificate!" GoCubsGo Oct 2018 #6
Now I wanna see TRMPs ancestry. forgotmylogin Oct 2018 #21
Trump's DNA test would reveal LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #46
LOL!! mtnsnake Oct 2018 #54
The big turd is a second or third generation German crime family DemocracyMouse Oct 2018 #49
I'm glad she had her DNA analyzed vlyons Oct 2018 #25
If you have English, Irish and Scots ancestors you should expect The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #51
Trump held her up in the national spotlight Jarqui Oct 2018 #41
Their whole argument was based on NOTHING but her appearance whathehell Oct 2018 #50
It wasn't really an "argument" though ... Jarqui Oct 2018 #55
True.. I meant that's all they had to try and base that claim. whathehell Oct 2018 #57
Me too. zentrum Oct 2018 #44
Well, that is interesting. madaboutharry Oct 2018 #4
I will never understand why people listen to the vile cretin who won't release tax returns, medical malaise Oct 2018 #5
Exactly....why are they catering to this vile cretin? HipChick Oct 2018 #26
+1 dalton99a Oct 2018 #27
This came up as an issue in MA pre-Trump. She's running for President, that's why. n/t seaglass Oct 2018 #34
Well she did manage to expose him as a big liar on two front malaise Oct 2018 #40
Works for me. :-) n/t seaglass Oct 2018 #48
Now where's your tax returns, Dotard? superpatriotman Oct 2018 #8
She should now demand his tax returns, details of the shell companies, his emoluments clause malaise Oct 2018 #10
republican liars owe Senator Warren a public apology Achilleaze Oct 2018 #9
Glad she did it DownriverDem Oct 2018 #11
Trump now owes 1 million to Warren's favorite charity. Ohioboy Oct 2018 #12
Warren: Please send the check to the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center: http://www.niwrc. Donkees Oct 2018 #14
In your face trump. She has publically called his name. irisblue Oct 2018 #29
My children are part Nanticoke. Tracer Oct 2018 #15
Will Elizabeth Warren Timmygoat Oct 2018 #17
She named 'National Indigenous Women's Resource Center' (post#14) Donkees Oct 2018 #24
Nevertheless, she persisted. deminks Oct 2018 #16
What a wonderful bdamomma Oct 2018 #18
I just stopped in to read the comments from users that claim she's still lying tenderfoot Oct 2018 #19
Strong evidence 6 to 10 generations ago Johnny2X2X Oct 2018 #20
You'd better believe the Cons would include forgotmylogin Oct 2018 #23
Love it!! Always knew Elizabeth was truthfully claiming to be part Native American. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #28
And the minions are now saying it's not enough NA ancestry. nolabear Oct 2018 #30
Never thought it was an issue, coming from a man who claims he's great, a genius, not a racist, Hoyt Oct 2018 #32
We are dealing with the Cretin here. There will be no check, no apology, no change... Guilded Lilly Oct 2018 #33
I'm glad she took the DNA test, and am delighted what she said was shown to be true. If I were her,I OnDoutside Oct 2018 #35
Warren: ''Tick-tock, Mr President.'' Donkees Oct 2018 #36
I'm interested only if this addresses the issues Native Americans face today and centers their WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #38
Good for her ZeroSomeBrains Oct 2018 #39
So now Timmygoat Oct 2018 #47
Warren: ''Having some memory problems, @realDonaldTrump? Should we call for a doctor? '' Donkees Oct 2018 #52
An impressive presentation by Elizabeth Warren delisen Oct 2018 #53
Stop it dems! Ask him about his fucking tax returns. CrispyQ Oct 2018 #56

Shoonra

(523 posts)
1. It took courage ....
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 07:42 AM
Oct 2018

It took courage for Warren to step up and have this analysis.

If she had merely been deceived by a bogus family myth (think of how many wannabe he-men claim to "have some Cherokee blood&quot , and the DNA exam showed this, Trump would never have shut up about it.

As it is, this shows the Native American ancestor was in her family line around the time of the Civil War or maybe the Mexican War.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
2. Trump said he would give a million Dollars
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 07:43 AM
Oct 2018

of his own money if she would produce a DNA proving Native American heritage. Warren should publicly demand
he gives a million Dollars to a charity that serves Native Americans.

Donkees

(31,422 posts)
7. Yes, perfect :)
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 08:16 AM
Oct 2018

''She planned an elaborate rollout Monday of the results as she aimed for widespread attention''

polmaven

(9,463 posts)
37. He is denying he said it
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:02 AM
Oct 2018

Just a few minutes ago outside the White House he said he "never said that. You better read it again." MSNBC had just played it.

You owe her that money, 45!

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
3. It pisses me off that Sen Warren had to do this.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 07:43 AM
Oct 2018

I hope that she did it because she wanted to know for sure. It is common lore that Oklahomans carry Native American genes. Probably not all. I went with a girl in high school whose mother was from OK. Both mother and daughter had facial features that were evidence of Native American ancestry. The mother said it was Cherokee.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
49. The big turd is a second or third generation German crime family
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:42 AM
Oct 2018

He's deeply insecure about it. His wife is a recent immigrant and just brought her parents over.

Everything Trump says and does is a cover-up. It's almost sci fi in its intergalactic reach.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
25. I'm glad she had her DNA analyzed
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:26 AM
Oct 2018

A lot of people are curious about their DNA heritage, and now we have the tools to find out fairly inexpensively. I did mine this year too. I was surprised to see some Norwegian heritage, although the English, Scots, and Irish heritage were no surprise.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,743 posts)
51. If you have English, Irish and Scots ancestors you should expect
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:42 AM
Oct 2018

some Norwegian DNA as well because of the Vikings' incursions into and settlements in Britain.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
41. Trump held her up in the national spotlight
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:19 AM
Oct 2018

and accuser her of lying about her heritage to get ahead.

i don't blame her for trying to set the record straight. I'm sickened that Trump drove her to this.

It's also a dog whistle to the racists in the GOP that if Warren proved her heritage, they can't vote for an 'injun' ....

The whole thing is so ugly: a good, honest person driven to clearing her good name of a lie. And for various reasons, in spite of her efforts, a significant percentage of the country will continue to perceive her as a liar about her heritage just like many think Obama is a Muslim from Kenya.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
50. Their whole argument was based on NOTHING but her appearance
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:31 AM
Oct 2018

which is pretty stupid given that she never claimed to
full Native American ancestry, she said it was partial.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
55. It wasn't really an "argument" though ...
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 12:05 PM
Oct 2018

It was exploiting racist misogynist hatred for political gain - trying to muzzle her

Who cares if she is .000000001% or more Native American? Only racists. After centuries, the majority in the US probably are .. and don't realize it.

I like her. Too soon for me to declare a 2020 favorite candidate - don't know them all as well as I need to - but I'm not ashamed to say I like her better than Hillary and a bunch of others.

I hope she runs. Her voice should be heard.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
57. True.. I meant that's all they had to try and base that claim.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:24 PM
Oct 2018

I like Elizabeth Warren a lot too... She's a true FDR New Deal Democrat.
...

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
4. Well, that is interesting.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 07:48 AM
Oct 2018

Trump: “See how utterly great and fantastic I am, I got her to take a DNA test. Just like I got Obama to release birth certificate!”

It wouldn’t occur to that asshole to understand he was wrong.

malaise

(269,063 posts)
5. I will never understand why people listen to the vile cretin who won't release tax returns, medical
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 07:58 AM
Oct 2018

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Records, conflicts of interest documents etc. and who has cheated and robbed more folks and institutions than we can count.

Why do intelligent folks like Obama and Warren believe they have to prove a damned thing to this narcissistic asshole

superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
8. Now where's your tax returns, Dotard?
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 08:17 AM
Oct 2018

I hope she runs under the nomiker "Pocahontas Warren" just to spite the fat dumb fuck

malaise

(269,063 posts)
10. She should now demand his tax returns, details of the shell companies, his emoluments clause
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 08:26 AM
Oct 2018

violations and his medical reports including syphilis test results.

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)
11. Glad she did it
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 08:57 AM
Oct 2018

Of course trump and the repubs still won't believe her. They sure didn't believe Obama after he produced his birth certificate. I'm part French Canadian. My father always told us about our great grand mother looked part Native American. After much work we too found that our family came to what became Canada going back several generations. We are considered Metis - part European and Native American. A DNA test showed I was .03 Native American. I wish my Dad knew all this.

Ohioboy

(3,243 posts)
12. Trump now owes 1 million to Warren's favorite charity.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:06 AM
Oct 2018

The balls in Trump's court. Will he stiff the charity?

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
15. My children are part Nanticoke.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:08 AM
Oct 2018

Their great grandparents on their father's side were Nanticokes from Maryland.

Recently, my son did a DNA test, and to my surprise the results didn't show any native Americans.

After reading this morning's Globe article, I know why. Apparently there is resistance in the tribes to supplying DNA samples so there is nothing to compare to in DNA tests.

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
17. Will Elizabeth Warren
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:13 AM
Oct 2018

Name the charity that is getting the million dollar donation from Trump? I hope some reporter will ask him today, if he is not too busy playing golf.

Johnny2X2X

(19,069 posts)
20. Strong evidence 6 to 10 generations ago
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:20 AM
Oct 2018

That's what the Cons are focusing on, but know that this matches what she said all along, that her great great great grandmother was partially Native American. She was never saying that he parents, or even her grand parents were full blooded Native Americans, just that her heritage had some Native American in it, and she proved just that.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
23. You'd better believe the Cons would include
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:24 AM
Oct 2018

if a "white person" they didn't like had an African or a Hispanic ancestor 6-10 generations ago - they'd be crowing for deportation.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. Love it!! Always knew Elizabeth was truthfully claiming to be part Native American.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:30 AM
Oct 2018

Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!!

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
30. And the minions are now saying it's not enough NA ancestry.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:44 AM
Oct 2018

Kelly Ann says it’s “junk science.” I’m so sick of these assholes. On the other hand I hope everyone on the left shoves it right down their throats.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
32. Never thought it was an issue, coming from a man who claims he's great, a genius, not a racist,
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:48 AM
Oct 2018

a good business person, etc. I bet just about anyone from Oklahoma would have Native American ancestry or suspect so.

Personally, I'm not convinced Warren would have the best chance against trump or another GOPer. But, I'd support her if she made it through primaries.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
33. We are dealing with the Cretin here. There will be no check, no apology, no change...
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:54 AM
Oct 2018

In attitude from his minuscule intellect or his massive, wretched, decency-void character.
We are so far imbedded into the alternate universe, Republican-stained Twilight Zone that there is no recovery until we vote every damned, slimy supporter of the vile buffoon OUT.
And even then, repairing the treachery will take years.

Senator Warren is rightfully proud of her heritage. She has told the absolute truth from day 1.

Even as these facts hit the ogres in the face, the deceiving powers are disenfranchising the voting rights of indigenous Americans in the multiple tens of thousands.

The excuses and ignorant denials and spin from the reeking right wing scumbags and their sociopath moron figure head will begin in 3...2...1...

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
35. I'm glad she took the DNA test, and am delighted what she said was shown to be true. If I were her,I
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:59 AM
Oct 2018

would capitalise on it and ram it home on the likes of Fox, in order to neutralise it as a 2020 issue.

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
39. Good for her
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:09 AM
Oct 2018

She put this stupid smear to bed now. There are tribes where the chief is 1/36 native so she has nothing to be ashamed of. Keep on fightin Elizabeth!

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
47. So now
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:35 AM
Oct 2018

He is denying he ever promised the million dollars to charity in spite of the video showing him saying it. I really do feel that he has early alzheimers, he should not still be president and to think of him running in 2020 makes me ill.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
56. Stop it dems! Ask him about his fucking tax returns.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 12:13 PM
Oct 2018

Don't play his game cuz you won't win no matter what you do. We never learn.

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