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still_one

(92,419 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:11 AM Oct 2018

There's More Evidence The Times Flubbed A Major Trump-Russia Story

An in-depth exploration of the Trump Organization’s possible communications with a Russian bank in The New Yorker sheds new light on just how flawed a New York Times report on the suspected collusion was when it came out days before the 2016 election.


A lengthy piece by Dexter Filkins in The New Yorker’s Oct. 15 issue asks, “Was There a Connection Between a Russian Bank and the Trump Campaign?” Filkins spoke to many of the same players that the Times’ Eric Lichtblau and Steven Lee Myers did for their more conclusively titled October 2016 report, “Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia.”


The impressions the two stories leave on readers could not be more different. The Times story prompted its own ombudsman to conclude, on Trump’s inauguration day, that the paper had erred in not reporting on the “unexplained but damning leads” about Trump’s Russia connection before the election.

The error is even more glaring two years since the story’s publication, after reading the evidence Filkins presents.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-yorker-new-york-times-trump-russia-story_us_5bbe476ae4b01470d05839a7

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There's More Evidence The Times Flubbed A Major Trump-Russia Story (Original Post) still_one Oct 2018 OP
The NYT basically exonerated Trump dalton99a Oct 2018 #1
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2018 #2
K & R mountain grammy Oct 2018 #3
C'mon man. watoos Oct 2018 #4
Your key points are key: only communicated w each other & shut down 2 days after questions. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #6
K&R catbyte Oct 2018 #5
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2018 #7
K&R calimary Oct 2018 #8
Gotta ask where Baquet's loyalties lie. nt Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #9

dalton99a

(81,599 posts)
1. The NYT basically exonerated Trump
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:21 AM
Oct 2018
Computer scientists who looked at the data ― both in the lead-up to the election and at the request of a Democratic senator in the spring of 2017 ― largely came to the same conclusion: Based on the timing of the communication and several other factors, the most reasonable explanation was that the servers were enabling a secret communication channel, possibly to share data (like, say, that collected by Cambridge Analytica) or to direct the exchange of money ― though all parties have denied communicating over the servers.

“Is it possible there is an innocuous explanation for all this?” one unnamed computer scientist who looked at the data asked The New Yorker. “Yes, of course. And it’s also possible that space aliens did this. It’s possible ― just not very likely.”

Max and his lawyer decided the best course of action would be to hand the data over to Lichtblau, who had done some breakthrough reporting on National Security Agency surveillance, Filkins reported.

“Not only is there clearly something there but there’s clearly something that someone has gone to great lengths to conceal,” Lichtblau told The New Yorker, reflecting on his initial hopes for the story.

But the Times article that ran on Oct. 31 was different than the one Lichtblau turned in, and made no mention of Max and his team. The Times’ executive editor Dean Baquet had charged that it was unethical to report on the existence of these server-to-server contacts without knowing their content or purpose.

Instead, the story relied on unnamed FBI sources who said the bureau had “ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts.”

Many computer scientists had also concluded that, but the story omitted how implausible they thought those innocuous explanations were.

The Times story left readers with the overall impression that Trump’s campaign had been exonerated ― which could have swayed readers still mulling over their vote.
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
4. C'mon man.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:25 PM
Oct 2018

A server in Trump tower and a server in Alfa bank in Russia that basically only communicated with one another.

A journalist asked Alfa bank about the server and 2 days later the server in Trump tower was shut down, what does that tell you? No one asked about the Trump tower server.

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