Beto may not win

[Guppy]

but he is our number one person for candidate for the presidency of the Unites States in 2020. There is no one even close to him in star power.

[stopbush]

1. Guess what? Ted Cruz may not win.

[dalton99a]

7. +1. Ignore the pundits. There are still many days left

[7962]

2. I'd say Michelle Obama would be #1 by far. Followed by Newsome, Harris, etc

[Guppy]

14. Michelle is not running

I don't believe.

[7962]

22. AFAIK,she hasnt said, but we all know it really doesn't matter who says what this early

Remember, Hillary also said she would never run for public office again. And then she did.
I never could understand why people cant just say "I have no plans to run. I could change my mind, but I dont think that'll happen" or something along those lines.

[shanny]

33. Actually she has said, multiple times,

that she has no interest in running. Do her the honor of believing her. Since she is not, in fact, a politician.

[7962]

40. Thats true, and probably one of the best compliments you could give her!!

"not a politician"!!

[Rhiannon12866]

57. I've heard her say that, too.

She made an enormous contribution to the Obama presidency, has to have been our most involved and proactive FLOTUS ever. But after eight years of leading such a public life, she can hardly be blamed for wanting her life back. But I miss her, too - she was just wonderful in everything she did, despite not being a politician.

[Garrett78]

3. A cabinet position, perhaps. But not POTUS or VPOTUS.

[Guppy]

4. in today's America

it is all about star power

[Garrett78]

5. Today's America, you may have noticed, kinda sucks.

[aeromanKC]

9. Tomorrow's America is Beto

And that's pretty awesome!!

[TexasBushwhacker]

21. I agree about POTUS in 2020, but I think he could be VPOTUS

There are plenty of folks who disagree with me, but I just don't think it's wise to run for POTUS if you haven't been a senator or governor first. Other than Eisenhower, it's senators and governors that get elected. Among other things, they have the experience in running for statewide office. This is why I wish the Castro brothers would run for the Senate or for governor.

[Guppy]

46. Doesn't matter anymore

you can run from anywhere. It is almost impossible to win statewide in Texas for a democrat. He is national, young,cool and with it. I can't think of another politician that has that"steve mcqueen" cool. Kamala does not have that natural cool. America loves cool like Barack. Barack is super cool.

[TexasBushwhacker]

50. Well, it would be unprecedented

But I agree. You don't get much more telegenic than Beto.

[Wiseman32218]

47. But we have Trump???

Today anything goes!!!

[Lithos]

54. I would recommend her for a more independent role

Perhaps an Ambassador-at-Large role. She's purposefully avoiding roles which do not let her define herself.

L-

[blogslut]

6. Then again, Beto may win.

And if he does, Texas is gonna keep him for while, thankyouverymuch.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

28. Yeah, that would be a big loss to The Senate after all these years without a Democrat.

On the other hand, Beto on the ticket would be a big boost to our electoral chances.

[dameatball]

8. I believe Beto has already stated that he would fulfill his term in office if elected.

[Guppy]

10. When it is your time it is your time

ask barack

[dameatball]

11. Okay. I just figured I would take him at his word.

I contributed to him twice, so I like the guy. But let's get him elected first.

[Guppy]

12. He crushes Trump

and takes out Nikki Haley at the same time. The rest of our supposed candidates are bad. Bernie is way too old and Elizabeth Warren is just not charismatic enough.

[dameatball]

13. No, the rest of candidates are not bad. Time to put you on ignore if want to be devisive. See ya.

[Guppy]

15. As much as we all hate Trump

he does have some star power. You need to go after him with more star power. There are only 2 democrats that have star power Kamala Harris and Beto.

[BannonsLiver]

17. You're new here so I'll be gentle

But calling prospective Dem candidates here is bad form, besides being factually inaccurate. We all love Beto here, but try not to use him as a divider.

[Guppy]

20. I am just trying to be realistic

Kamala Harris has charisma. Cory Booker is ok but he will not have the appeal of Kamala. Bernie is past his expiration date. I like Elizabeth's ideas but unfortunately I think Trump beats her.
Beto has real charisma. He gets on stage with Willie. He draws unbelievable crowds . He raise vast sums of money. He gets young people jacked.

For my money it is Kamala or Beto.

[JonLP24]

55. I think Elizabeth Warren would beat Trump

She is tough and a fighter. This kind of thing had to be revealed by FOIA so it shows she will fight behind closed doors.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/john-kelly-called-elizabeth-warren-an-impolite-arrogant

Plus she'd bring on the progressives on board especially for a GE.

Bernie Sanders policy ideas aren't past the expiration date I like how his record we need more Senators like him. I would take that in Arizona but he may not win a primary.

Kamala Harris would do good and she has a good progressive record. I like Be to too because he was willing to talk about police corruption and CJ reform.

[treestar]

16. But he might

which would be even better.

[LostOne4Ever]

18. He has always been the underdog in this race

Texas has a long long way to go before it turns blue; but no matter what else that may be said, Beto put up an incredible fight and has done far far better than I ever thought he would.

Sometime, progress has to be made in increments. Inchi by inch. Even so, Beto has pulled us a couple of feet closer to the goal.

[Awsi Dooger]

53. And much more of an underdog than we prefer to believe

Trading price is currently 80/20, or 4/1 underdog.

As Nate Silver posted in August, the logical numbers in Texas adjusted for this cycle point to something like a 5-9 point victory for Cruz. That made perfect sense to me and it's where the race stands currently. Cruz feels no need to debate because he no longer feels threatened, unlike several weeks ago.

I'm sick that an awesome candidate like Beto is stuck in a state where his career may waste away and never reach anything close to its potential. Too many damn conservatives in Texas on the voter rolls, and too many of the Hispanics are either underage or otherwise not eligible.

[Johnny2X2X]

19. If he does win he's for sure our candidate too

A Texas Democrat that could carry his own state in the GE, would have a massive advantage to win the White House.

[msongs]

23. star power is your criterion? taylor swift has oodles more nt

[Guppy]

25. Unfortunately that is America today

and it has been that way for a while. It's like sales. People get emotionally attached to "something" and that is how people buy. You may disagree but it is how it is in America.
How many people registered to vote after Taylor Swift asked them to. You made my point.

[violetpastille]

27. How many were gonna do it on the last day anyhow?

https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/imma-let-yall-finish-but-taylor-swift-causing-a-spike-1829633825

I'll give her some credit. Some.

[joshcryer]

35. Minimum age is 35.

I would vote for her in a heartbeat.

Since at this point out politics is in the worst state it's ever fucking been.

[spanone]

24. Beto Will Win.

[RandySF]

26. He'll wind up on cable news or a podcast

[Initech]

29. If not president he'd be an awesome VP pick!

[Guppy]

43. he is not a bench player

[wellst0nev0ter]

30. At this point in 2016

Hillary had the election locked up with 49% to Trump's 42%.

Moral of the story: October's a long-ass month.

[7962]

41. THIS is what so many miss.

All the good or bad news that moves poll numbers right now is LONG forgotten by the time Election Day comes around. Kavenaugh, migrant kids, whatever, will be out of most minds.
But what happens the last 2 weeks stays. Who knows what that'll be with this president.

[DFW]

31. It's not just the star power

He thinks quickly on his feet, is extremely personable, would be an AMAZING head of state to interact with other world leaders.

If anything, he would have to LOSE a little of his humility if he is to represent us on the world stage. But what a refreshing change from the current disaster THAT would be.

AND--he may yet pull this out. I'd LOVE to have him as our Senator for a while before he sets his sights on the White House.

[dameatball]

36. Same here.

[drexelkathy]

32. 2020 is a LONG way away.

Let's focus on Nov 2018 before we start discussing 2020.

[bdamomma]

42. Welcome to DU

+1

[obamanut2012]

34. lulz

[Takket]

37. " There is no one even close to him in star power"

What makes you say that? Outside of hardcore Democrats that closely follow politics, and citizens of Texas, I don't think people even know who he is.

He doesn't even appear on this list of 2020 contenders

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/31/17796108/democratic-2020-contenders-overrated-underrated

[Guppy]

45. Bernie and Elizabeth

just don't have it. Kamala is quite good but I don't think it is her time.

[Takket]

48. okay fine if you think that... but that doesn't make Beto a star on the National scene

[nature-lover]

38. 2 Beto signs in my yard!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Doesn't it help to have won a big race ?

[Guppy]

44. He's running in Texas

a win is not expected. Look at the money he has amassed nationally. He has national standing.

[In It to Win It]

49. I''ve said it a million times... win or lose, Beto O'Rourke 2020

[Polybius]

51. If he doesn't win, how is he going to run for President?

Without being a sitting or former Senator or Governor, winning a primary will be extremely tough. Not winning your home state is also a major issue. We don't want a repeat of 2000.

That being said, I have hope that he does win. He can then run for President in 2024 or 2028. 2020 would still be too soon.

[Skruffy]

52. I am not looking for a star, though I do like Beto. I can see VP pick and then run 8 yrs later.

[MFM008]

56. We need to stop

Speculation.
VOTE.

[Lady_Chat]

58. Beto has an hour on CNN, is it possible he could change some minds in Texas?

I just don't understand what happened, he was doing so well, how did he fall so far behind? Is it possible something is not accurate, or not being considered in the polling? I read one article that said he is not getting support from Hispanic voters, which is very confusing, given Trump's insulting remarks. Besides Austin, are there any other liberal or moderate areas in Texas? Trying to stay positive, because it's not over, till it's over.

Was discussing politics with some friends the other night. Some feel the ship has sailed as far as making headway into really red states. Others think it's time for Blue states to join together and form a coalition, and try and reverse a policy that started in the 1930's. That allows Red states to pay much less into the Federal government and get much more back. Blue states pay much more into the Federal government, and get far less back. However Blue states have greater populations, and more money is needed there, to take care of their own. Reverse the current policy, and allow all states to pay their fair share, instead of certain states bearing all the burden. Any thoughts on this? Thanks!

[Vinca]

59. I think we should ignore the polls. It never crossed my mind Trump would win.