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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 08:30 AM Oct 2018

Handmaid's Tale? Trump Administration Curbs Access To Birth Control

Sarah Okeson

October 12, 2018 2:33 am

Trump health officials plan to rewrite guidelines for a federally funded family planning program to make it harder for low-income women to obtain birth control.

The 32-page proposed regulation mentions contraception three times aside from the footnotes and proposes removing the requirement that family planning services be medically approved, saying it could cause confusion.

“Medical doctors and professional organizations can differ on which methods of health care they approve, including different methods of family planning,” said the regulation prepared under abstinence advocate Valerie Huber, now a senior policy adviser at Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services.

“This policy is straight out of The Handmaid’s Tale,” said Dawn Laguens, executive vice president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

Trump said at an anti-abortion gala sponsored by Susan B. Anthony List that the new rule would “prohibit Title X funding from going to any clinic that performs abortions.”

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http://www.nationalmemo.com/handmaids-tale-trump-administration-curbs-access-to-birth-control/

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Handmaid's Tale? Trump Administration Curbs Access To Birth Control (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
Expect chants of "Knock her up. Knock her up." soon at Trump rallies Freethinker65 Oct 2018 #1
When will the MAGA folks get it? greymattermom Oct 2018 #2
And, by forcing poor women to conceive SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #18
OBVIOUSLY the latter.... AZ8theist Oct 2018 #19
Not a problem, with Kav they know abortion and birth control will be outlawed shortly. lark Oct 2018 #20
Yep workinclasszero Oct 2018 #24
We are living in "Idiocracy" (Trump world) and Handmaids Tale (Pence/McConnell world). Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #3
this will affect bdamomma Oct 2018 #4
When Roe v. Wade goes down... Girard442 Oct 2018 #5
Exactly... AZ8theist Oct 2018 #21
they have been chipping away bdamomma Oct 2018 #6
Words can't express Ohiogal Oct 2018 #7
Locking them in a room and making them binge watch 7 seasons of "Call the Midwife"... Pacifist Patriot Oct 2018 #8
I don't understand this part Cerulean Southpaw Oct 2018 #9
No, that means that Bristol Palin can set up a clinic, give advice on family planning, and mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2018 #10
+1 Delmette2.0 Oct 2018 #12
Support for anti-abortion Christian crisis pregnancy centers. Lonestarblue Oct 2018 #11
Thank you for this geardaddy Oct 2018 #13
that makes sense Cerulean Southpaw Oct 2018 #28
They're *removing* the medically approved stipulation. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2018 #14
Don't you recognize tRump's new health care plan? pazzyanne Oct 2018 #15
🤬🤬🤮🖤 BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2018 #22
Low-income parents tend to produce low-income workers. Hortensis Oct 2018 #16
there it is Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #23
Well, let's at least say that driving out brown-skinned Hortensis Oct 2018 #25
"removing the requirement that family planning services be medically approved" - translation vlyons Oct 2018 #17
What possible sense does this make? smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #26
They will just claim Ohiogal Oct 2018 #27

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
2. When will the MAGA folks get it?
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 08:40 AM
Oct 2018

This and his abortion plans will increase the number of brown people, not whites.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
18. And, by forcing poor women to conceive
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:08 AM
Oct 2018

They will cause more abortions. Complete cognitive dissonance, or just plain ignorance?

lark

(23,102 posts)
20. Not a problem, with Kav they know abortion and birth control will be outlawed shortly.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:16 AM
Oct 2018

This will cause more poor brown workers, which is what they want to replace the immigrants that used to do the shit jobs.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
24. Yep
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 03:50 PM
Oct 2018

People make the mistake of thinking Trump's kangaroo court will just outlaw abortion.

Any and all forms of contraception will also be on the chopping block as well.

bdamomma

(63,865 posts)
4. this will affect
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 08:48 AM
Oct 2018

all low income women. This filthy regime is striking back at women. Revengeful POS tRump is. I always think Stephen Miller is behind all of this and tRump is their tool.

Girard442

(6,075 posts)
5. When Roe v. Wade goes down...
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 08:51 AM
Oct 2018

...the Pro-Lifers will immediately segue to attacking contraception, proving what everybody knew all along: it's not about life; it's about denying agency to women.

bdamomma

(63,865 posts)
6. they have been chipping away
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 08:58 AM
Oct 2018

at our pro-choices for a while now. Too bad we couldn't get big pharma to take Cialis and Viagra off the shelves.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
8. Locking them in a room and making them binge watch 7 seasons of "Call the Midwife"...
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:04 AM
Oct 2018

probably wouldn't even get through their thick skulls and shriveled black holes where their hearts should be.

9. I don't understand this part
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:18 AM
Oct 2018

I'm not defending it - I think I'm confused about what its saying.

"The 32-page proposed regulation mentions contraception three times aside from the footnotes and proposes removing the requirement that family planning services be medically approved, saying it could cause confusion"

Isn't that a good thing?

They shouldn't require to be medically approved to provide family planning service and contraception. That requirement is what the anti-choice side uses to shut down the clinics.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,464 posts)
10. No, that means that Bristol Palin can set up a clinic, give advice on family planning, and
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:48 AM
Oct 2018

receive federal funding for her clinic.

Lonestarblue

(9,998 posts)
11. Support for anti-abortion Christian crisis pregnancy centers.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:22 AM
Oct 2018

I disagree that clinics do not need to be medically approved. Would you go to a dentist who had no training or hire a plumber with no license or background in plumbing? The crisis pregnancy clinics are not medically approved for a reason—they do not provide healthcare. They are an anti-abortion propaganda machine and they should not be allowed to practice medicine. Many of their staff wear white coats to fool women into thinking that they are medically trained and they lie to women, saying that abortions cause cancer and that cite nonexistent studies saying that all women regret having an abortion. They are not trained to identify the signs of future medical problems for pregnant women, such as gestational diabetes, pregnancy-related hypertension, or fetal abnormalities shown through the ultrasound images they may perform but are not trained to read. These clinics need to be identified as what they are—nonmedical facilities created solely to oppose abortion.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
13. Thank you for this
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:38 AM
Oct 2018

I was always suspect of those places and wondered if they were actually staffed by trained personnel.

28. that makes sense
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:09 AM
Oct 2018

I didn't think about those crisis pregnancy places.

I guess I was just thinking about the laws like in Texas that said the regular family planning clinics had to have an ambulatory surgery center and the doctors there had to be accepted for work at local hospitals, and they were using those laws to make it harder for a lot of regular clinics to operate

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Low-income parents tend to produce low-income workers.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:59 AM
Oct 2018

The religious right is behind this, of course, but so are white nationalism and neo-Hamiltonian plans for class-based society and power and wealth distribution.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,348 posts)
23. there it is
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 03:42 PM
Oct 2018

They want worker drones with no power. Once we are cost competitive with current 3rd world labor, there will be no need to export jobs. Keep us ignorant, disorganized, completely consumed with just surviving, without access to health care, and no regulations to interfere with profiteering. Such a wonderful world the ultra-rich want to design!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Well, let's at least say that driving out brown-skinned
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 05:34 PM
Oct 2018

immigrant labor will mean many of those jobs will be available for less-skilled workers, who will be expected to take them or do without incomes. Of course, many of those jobs are going to disappear. Mowers will drive themselves, etc.

But certainly, people who divide humanity into more and less deserving sorts do think less is only natural and appropriate for many, even themselves btw. One of my discoveries was that the sort of conservatives who are comfortable with tiered societies in which some are kicked down on are also comfortable with an order that requires them to kiss up to upper classes. Just their place in the natural order. The principle that all men are created equal is a liberal thing. The gut reactions that are conservatism don't include it.

As for the notion of a universal basic income to compensate for less work in a world of great wealth and allow people to be consumers in that world, horrors. Billionaires may literally not be able to earn even a tiny fraction of their money, but that doesn't mean others should not be required to work for what they have.

We really have to get them out of government asap. We're running way behind in dealing with these changes, and half of an entire generation is already not just way behind in wealth accumulation where their parents were at the same ages but barely holding on.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
17. "removing the requirement that family planning services be medically approved" - translation
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:00 AM
Oct 2018

Non-medical, religious organizations can be federally funded to persuade women NOT to use contraception and practice abstinence only instead. Non-medical, religious organizations can tell women all kinds of bullshit and intimidate them with guilt to not have an abortion. Our tax dollars will be hard at work oppressing women and poor families.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
26. What possible sense does this make?
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 06:05 PM
Oct 2018

They can't force low-income women to keep children that they can't afford to raise. Who is going to care for them? Are they going to open up orphanages again? Where is the money going to come from to support all of these unwanted children? Or even if the women do keep these babies that they can't afford, they will still need government assistance. Have they thought of that?

Have they thought of the social fallout of this at all? They are so short-sighted and stupid! It is enraging!

Ohiogal

(32,002 posts)
27. They will just claim
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 08:35 PM
Oct 2018

that the government doesn't have enough money to care for these children. So we'll see lots of sick, starving, children. They won't care because they see being poor as a moral failing, so watching your children starve to death will be fitting punishment for the women who have no money or no husband and didn't keep an aspirin between their knees. They are just that evil and mean. Pro-life, my ass. They are pro-birth only.

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