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Kajun Gal

(1,907 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:13 PM Oct 2018

Ok guys and gals. After watching Rachel I am scared.

I am just an old retired lady who sometimes felt a need to speak up. Life was great when I was young and oblivious. I paid no attention to politics.

Now, after the journalist story, I can only pray. And my prayers are for all of us who speak their opinions. I am not sure how long we will be able to do this anymore.

And yes, my concerns came only lately, with the Trump administration. Never before have I been scared to speak my mind. Never.

But, this is crazy stuff. I have been a political geek for years and only lately I have felt free to speak on this site. But, I wonder...are we safe here? Are we free to speak our thoughts? I don't know anymore.

I am not of the "rich and entitled", so I really am unsure about speaking out. I have no political connections to help in a time of need if need be.

These are strange and scary times y'all. I know we can't stay silent, but I also know things can turn quickly if one speaks the truth.

Just saying...y'all be cool. Think I may chill out a while.

Peace and love.

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Ok guys and gals. After watching Rachel I am scared. (Original Post) Kajun Gal Oct 2018 OP
I was scared during Bush, but never like this. rusty quoin Oct 2018 #1
Come on, you still have freedom of speech. At least for a while. dhol82 Oct 2018 #2
Then you didn't watch the first ten minutes of Lawrence... ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #3
Some of us have no idea what you're talking about. llmart Oct 2018 #5
+1,000,000 winstars Oct 2018 #6
Just the audio of Saudis torturing and killing the WaPo journalist ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #10
I figured that out customerserviceguy Oct 2018 #13
But after the video of Rump telling the press how many gazillions of dollars they were going to pay ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #15
He also was selling millions of dollars in real estate to them. Or "is". nt Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #16
But he had to make it seem like any deals he had with them would benefit the US ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #17
Better Dead Than Red. Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #4
Hey CC Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #7
To HfB... Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #8
Thank you, CC. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #12
I feel ya......peace and love to you too. AJT Oct 2018 #9
I don't have cable dweller Oct 2018 #11
I felt the same thing, watching here. Dread and fear. The voter registration thing, too. SharonAnn Oct 2018 #14
It is useful to get the book "On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From the Twentieth CenturyL"... Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #18
I give the ACLU a monthly donation lunatica Oct 2018 #21
yes Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #22
Great book. defacto7 Oct 2018 #33
I'm cajun, too. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #19
It's the Duck Dynasty people who screwed La. And Jindal. Yep! Bright red now. Was blue. Kajun Gal Oct 2018 #26
LOL. "Duck Dynasty people." I'm going to steal that from you... Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #31
Permission is granted! Enjoy! Kajun Gal Oct 2018 #32
I am 66 years old have some health issues. gordianot Oct 2018 #20
KG, sometimes I take great comfort in my relative unimportance. nolabear Oct 2018 #23
Then they have won and you have capitulated. Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2018 #24
I'm listening and I hear you and you are right! Thanks! Kajun Gal Oct 2018 #25
If Trump doesn't get us, Climate Change will mchill Oct 2018 #27
Well, Trump is likely accelerating climate change True Dough Oct 2018 #29
It was reading about "Helen," the little girl forced to sign away her rights. dawg day Oct 2018 #28
I'm another old lady malaise Oct 2018 #30

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
2. Come on, you still have freedom of speech. At least for a while.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:22 PM
Oct 2018

Keep your chin up!
I am 72. Figure I will be ok. Tell my grandkids to get to somewhere else.
I keep hoping that we can come back. Will see after November.
I live in a bright blue state. Figure that at some point, after the civil war, I should be ok. The grand kids live in California. Figure that if they stay I can go emigrate.
I think we will survive!

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. Then you didn't watch the first ten minutes of Lawrence...
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:24 PM
Oct 2018

If you had, you'd be hiding under your bed about now.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
10. Just the audio of Saudis torturing and killing the WaPo journalist
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:09 PM
Oct 2018

And how the Rump said it was ok because he was selling weapons to Saudi and making gazillions of dollars.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
13. I figured that out
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 12:01 AM
Oct 2018

The only difference is that US embassy (and other governmental) officials would probably not kill a person who Trump wanted to snuff, while Saudi underlings would fight to be the first one to appease their King.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. But after the video of Rump telling the press how many gazillions of dollars they were going to pay
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 12:13 AM
Oct 2018

Lawrence said that everything the Rump told them was a lie. There were no plans to sell weapons.

Lawrence even had a clip from Fox and Friends in which the Fox hosts were asking how this would affect our relationship with Saudi. When Rump told them it wouldn't, they were in disbelief.

Could Kushner have given them the name of the reporter, and now his father in law is trying to downplay the severity of the situation?

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. But he had to make it seem like any deals he had with them would benefit the US
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 12:27 AM
Oct 2018

It was an outright lie that Lawrence denounced as soon as the clip was over.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
7. Hey CC
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:44 PM
Oct 2018

I haven't seen any of your GREAT music posts in a while. They were like sunshine on a cloudy day . . . I miss them.

dweller

(23,641 posts)
11. I don't have cable
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:12 PM
Oct 2018

so don't know what you are afraid of, but if you need to sound off somewhere that you can be assured won't be take wrong PM me anytime

I'm not afraid of these fascists ...
✌🏼️

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
18. It is useful to get the book "On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From the Twentieth CenturyL"...
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 12:28 AM
Oct 2018

...by Yale holocaust historian Timothy Snyder. $7.95. It tells us what our path should be in this troubled moment.

Also, joining the aclu is not a bad idea as the organization fights to protect our liberty.

Last. Protect and defend our watchdog free press. Our defense is largely up to the reporters.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
22. yes
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 01:45 AM
Oct 2018

and every new member amplifies their message even if the member can only afford the minimum membership. All hands on deck.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. I'm cajun, too.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 12:41 AM
Oct 2018

Are you in LA? Rest assured the rest of the country (most of it) isn't as bad as Louisiana. The Trumper effect in LA is horrible. I think it's partly due to the large proportion of uneducated in the state, coupled with poverty and a huge drug problem.

I live in a red community. Dark red. I do speak out, but usually on the Senator FB pages. I get a lot of horrendous flack from the reddies. I would not put a "D" sticker on my car; it would be keyed in a flash.

Pickup trucks, guns, overly churchie people, and the occasional Confederate Flag (rah rah).

But still I do speak out. I'm retired, and if I gotta go, I'm going to go while speaking my mind. I am careful and when and where and what I say, though. I use facts & logic. Not rants.

 

Kajun Gal

(1,907 posts)
26. It's the Duck Dynasty people who screwed La. And Jindal. Yep! Bright red now. Was blue.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oct 2018

Not anymore...

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
20. I am 66 years old have some health issues.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 01:30 AM
Oct 2018

I will not trespass or provoke a disagreement. On my property it would be a mistake for what passes these days for Fascist thugs to cross my line. In public I will speak out as I please there is nothing anyone can do to me more than my body has already done. I have studied situational awareness hope to give back as well as I get. In the words of the old Pete Seager song “die gedanken sind frei”. I will not run even if the best I do is spit in your eye. The best weapon is vote like your life depends on it, there is no doubt this time we are all on the line.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
23. KG, sometimes I take great comfort in my relative unimportance.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 01:52 AM
Oct 2018

I think DU does get a little attention now and then. Alan Greyson used to check in now and then and some members have written outside work and held local offices. But mostly we inform and share with and booster one another. I don’t think we’re a threat in the “kill them all” sense of the word, because there are far too many higher on that ladder than we are. I know a few people here in other realms but not many. I wouldn’t be scared for DU.

The press and journalism, now, that’s another matter. But I’ve never known harder fighters than press, even at the worst of times. I don’t know if we’ll be fine but I would bet we’ll have a working press, above or underground.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,577 posts)
24. Then they have won and you have capitulated.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 01:57 AM
Oct 2018

Or you can exercise your Constitutional right under the First Amendment which protects you if you criticize the government. And join the ACLU... Nothin' personal, it's just me trying to give you a pep talk. By the way I am 68.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
28. It was reading about "Helen," the little girl forced to sign away her rights.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 05:25 PM
Oct 2018

My friend the attorney shrugged and said, "Well, it's not enforceable. Children can't sign contracts." Then he stopped and said, "So why would the government do that? If it's unenforceable?"

I couldn't help myself. "Because they're evil. We have an evil government. Or we have an evil president and a lot of people happy to go along with him."

We have read about this sort of thing-- 1936.

And the terrlble suspicion that they are doing this to force the children into adoption by white Americans without their parents' consent.

This is what the Argentinian junta did with the children of dissidents. They killed the dissidents (at least we're not doing that... well, just sending them back to places they might get killed) and took the kids and gave/sold them to government and military officers.

This is ... frightening. This is what we are becoming.

malaise

(269,028 posts)
30. I'm another old lady
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 05:30 PM
Oct 2018

but guess what- the most they can do is kill me. I will never be silent and I've always been that way.
I'd rather be dead than live without free speech.

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