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Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:16 PM Oct 2018

Should parents of 18-25 year olds incentivize them to vote?

I keep hearing the pundits saying that there will only be normal turnout in midterms years in the 18-25 year demographic on Nov 6.
And that supposedly has Democratic political strategists very worried that they could be the difference in a lot of races.

So, I’m asking parents of young adults 18-25 if their family members are excited to vote.
If not, would you consider an enticement to go with you to vote or provide proof they voted elsewhere? Maybe a gift certificate to their favorite restaurant, or Pottery Barn, cannabis oil,
Bed, bath, and beyond?


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Should parents of 18-25 year olds incentivize them to vote? (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 OP
I'd say 'encourage,' and why not? elleng Oct 2018 #1
Exactly. Whatever works. Parents know what motivates their children. Luckily mine vote. TheBlackAdder Oct 2018 #22
I have some dim memory of there being laws against such incentives. aikoaiko Oct 2018 #2
No cash exchanged. That would be illegal, yes. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #3
Ok Thanks. The dim memory involved a free beer if you voted. aikoaiko Oct 2018 #13
I don't know, for me, when I was 18 mysteryowl Oct 2018 #4
I couldn't wait to vote. Unfortunately for me it was the 2000 election, hanging dewsgirl Oct 2018 #57
If the possibility of legal weed won't get them to the polls, nothing will. TexasBushwhacker Oct 2018 #5
If you vote you'll get purple kush ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2018 #6
Wow, look what snuck in under the sewer. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #8
got em within seconds! NRaleighLiberal Oct 2018 #11
I'd never seen a real live Trumper on this site before. Disgusting pigs, they are. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #12
MIR Team members don hip boots and patrol the sewers of DU 24/7.... Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Tavarious Jackson Oct 2018 #9
I do mine. Tavarious Jackson Oct 2018 #7
Who not incentivize? David__77 Oct 2018 #10
Good call. I changed it. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #14
I think bribe implies the voting would lack integrity. David__77 Oct 2018 #15
You then are unable to perceive the relevant difference between incentive and bribe? LanternWaste Oct 2018 #50
I've heard pundits H2O Man Oct 2018 #16
Poll from late August. Hopefully it is wrong in November. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #18
Thank you for that! H2O Man Oct 2018 #37
Wait a minute - are you a cousin or second cousin of mine? Control-Z Oct 2018 #34
Right. H2O Man Oct 2018 #36
My daughter is very excited to "vote the fucksticks out" her words lol Luciferous Oct 2018 #17
Good for her. Hope all of her friends are too. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #19
She says they are so we'll see... Luciferous Oct 2018 #20
It was the opposite for me Polybius Oct 2018 #23
As in: Turbineguy Oct 2018 #24
Works for me 👍 Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #26
Here is how I would approach it: Blueman13 Oct 2018 #27
I disagree. We shouldn't use sticks and carrots for 18-25 year olds over voting. OhioBlue Oct 2018 #30
My 23 and 21 year old daughters are extremely excited to vote. unitedwethrive Oct 2018 #28
I have taken my son with me to vote since he was little. I tell him it is my duty as a citizen. OhioBlue Oct 2018 #29
My niece attends Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #31
If you involve them in voting from the beginning, it will evolve naturally. Laffy Kat Oct 2018 #32
I agree with this... Phentex Oct 2018 #41
I sure as hell never needed that DFW Oct 2018 #33
I encourage my nephews to treestar Oct 2018 #35
Took my 20 month old to the polls in the primaries. WeekiWater Oct 2018 #38
It would be cool if Taylor Swift told people to text her Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #39
They shouldn't need a gift to get them to vote. Just drag their asses to the polls. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #40
I'd definitely be in for "drag their asses to the polls" if Hortensis Oct 2018 #45
So they think they get a prize whenever they vote? MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #42
Desperate times.....we need to fight this admin with all we have...no luxury for lessons now. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #43
That no luxury for lessons leads us to the situation we are in now. MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #44
Yeah, plus the child needs to learn to do things without incentives from the parent all the time Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #48
Yes, but they shouldn't have to bribe their kids to be responsible adults and citizens EffieBlack Oct 2018 #46
If you raise then properly, teach them responsibility, critical thinking, and compassion, you won't FSogol Oct 2018 #47
100% agree inwiththenew Oct 2018 #49
I Put It On RobinA Oct 2018 #51
What? Give them a bonus on the allowance? Skidmore Oct 2018 #52
My kid can't wait to vote. Codeine Oct 2018 #53
They have no incentive to vote? CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #54
My oldest will vote this midterm (19) meadowlark5 Oct 2018 #55
"Boundaries" MichMary Oct 2018 #56
If my child needed incentive to vote Runningdawg Oct 2018 #58
My 4 kids are in that age range; they always vote and always vote D. nt CozyMystery Oct 2018 #59

TheBlackAdder

(28,205 posts)
22. Exactly. Whatever works. Parents know what motivates their children. Luckily mine vote.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:08 PM
Oct 2018

.

I can't say the same for my 24 year old niece. My 30 year old nephew is finally coming around to it.

.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
13. Ok Thanks. The dim memory involved a free beer if you voted.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:40 PM
Oct 2018

Or some such incentive.

But I don't know anything.

mysteryowl

(7,390 posts)
4. I don't know, for me, when I was 18
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:23 PM
Oct 2018

I was proud to vote. It was an event for me I will always remember.

I think teaching your children about democracy and voting, is the better way.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
57. I couldn't wait to vote. Unfortunately for me it was the 2000 election, hanging
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 12:31 PM
Oct 2018

Chad debacle.
My son and DIL(both 21) were very excited to vote as soon as they could and are eagerly looking forward to voting in the midterms, along with many of their friends.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
5. If the possibility of legal weed won't get them to the polls, nothing will.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:25 PM
Oct 2018

It's stunning that they will allow their future to be decided by a bunch of crusty old farts like me. I just don't get it.

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
21. MIR Team members don hip boots and patrol the sewers of DU 24/7....
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:03 PM
Oct 2018

dislodging turds before they backup into DU.

MIR Team member extraordinaire, Ed Norton, learned all about politics after working under city hall for three weeks (one of the perks of the job).

Response to Name removed (Reply #6)

David__77

(23,418 posts)
15. I think bribe implies the voting would lack integrity.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:45 PM
Oct 2018

If the young person has no break in personal integrity and is true to him or herself, I see no problem!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
50. You then are unable to perceive the relevant difference between incentive and bribe?
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:57 AM
Oct 2018

If a poster has no real need in his life to perceive the nuances of basic grammar and English, I see no problem!

H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
16. I've heard pundits
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:49 PM
Oct 2018

talk about "if" there is a normal mid-term turnout of voters ages 18-25 years, but haven't heard anyone predict that. I think that there will be a large turnout. I interact with a fair number of young people, and get the sense that they know how important this election is.

All of my children are politically active, and have been since well before they could vote. I think that most of their friends vote. Usually these days, one of them stops to give me a ride to vote.

Your OP has me thinking about my siblings and their children. Only one nephew doesn't vote. I know that all of my cousins vote -- with my father being one of fourteen siblings, I have a lot of cousins. Two are republicans, while over fifty are Democrats. And most of them have children who vote.

I also interact with students in the colleges in this region. What is interesting this fall is that the female students are leading the way. And there are female college students in more leadership positions in the House campaigns than I've ever seen, and I've been doing this a long time.

I apologize for not really answering your question. It's just outside of my experience. But I found the OP/thread interesting.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
34. Wait a minute - are you a cousin or second cousin of mine?
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 03:19 AM
Oct 2018
"I know that all of my cousins vote -- with my father being one of fourteen siblings, I have a lot of cousins."


My grandmother, on my mother's side, had sixteen pregnancies. However, one ended in a miscarriage and another was stillborn. So my mother was one of fourteen siblings (live births). I too have a lot of cousins.

You never know, right?


H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
36. Right.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:29 AM
Oct 2018

About thirty years ago, at a Native American support group meeting, a woman was talking about her family's Revolutionary War-era history in PA. I told her that we were related. She thought I was nuts (correctly, of course). But ten years ago, while doing internet work on her family tree, she encountered my (maternal) aunt. Sure enough, we are related.

Twenty years ago, at a community-based meeting for families that got services at the mental health clinic I was employed at, a woman was talking about her family's roots in the Old Sod. Again, I said we were related. She was clearly offended, as she considered her family "lace curtain." When years later, my book on the contributions of the Irish immigrants contributions to the northeast came out, she noticed the photographs of my ancestors' family cemetery in Ireland. She compared them to photos she had taken to her ancestors' cemetery. I had been correct, much to her surprise.

And I have encountered a friend on DU who is a "distant" cousin. Small world. My children and I have done a couple of the available DNA tests, and have encountered cousins across the country. It's fascinating.

Turbineguy

(37,337 posts)
24. As in:
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:07 PM
Oct 2018

"You keep these fucking republicans in office and don't be surprised when we show up at you house with a 'we're movin' in'!"

 

Blueman13

(34 posts)
27. Here is how I would approach it:
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:18 PM
Oct 2018

They are on the hook for their own cell phone bill if they do not vote (for those whose parents are paying the bill). Make them pay for something that they really should be paying for in the first place -- that will scare them to the polls. lol

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
30. I disagree. We shouldn't use sticks and carrots for 18-25 year olds over voting.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:29 PM
Oct 2018

We SHOULD explain to them why it is important that they vote. We SHOULD model the behavior by taking them with us to vote, helping them register and letting them see us volunteer and offer opportunities or them to volunteer with us. Encourage them to attend political debates, round tables and rallies with us.

We want to encourage their hearts and stimulate their minds, not offer punishments or enticements for voting.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
29. I have taken my son with me to vote since he was little. I tell him it is my duty as a citizen.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:21 PM
Oct 2018

I took him with me when I knocked doors and he was still in a stroller. He has been to an Obama rally at age 5, several events with Senator Brown and various other candidates. He helped me knock doors for Hillary. I hope this instills in him that it is part of one's civic duty to at the very least vote.

IMO - I would approach older children the same way. Get them registered and take them with you to vote. Make it an event. Go vote and have lunch, see a movie, visit a park. If you both have to work on election day, see if you can vote early on a weekend at the BOE. I would not personally give someone a gift card for voting.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
31. My niece attends Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 01:01 AM
Oct 2018

Yes, THAT Parkland. The worst school shooting massacre in recent history. Seventeen dead in less than seven minutes. Three teachers and 14 students. My niece knew everyone of the dead children. They were her friends. They were in her classes. She's not yet eligible to vote, but for all of the teens that turned 18 and graduated last June . . . . They are ALL registered.

I would rather have seen them incentivized with a trip to The Keys or Disney. But this is what life handed them, and believe me, these young people are VERY incentivized. They have plans to go as groups to the polls, vote and then go celebrate their first time voting. Then they are holding a vigil for all of those who would have graduated with the senior class but didn't make it.

Incentives come in many forms.

Laffy Kat

(16,382 posts)
32. If you involve them in voting from the beginning, it will evolve naturally.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 02:39 AM
Oct 2018

My mother always made sure I accompanied her in the voting booth from the time I was a baby. When I got older she let me pull the leavers and open the privacy curtain. I was so proud the first time I voted by myself and I knew exactly what to do. I did the same with my boys. If I went to a polling place I made sure to go when they could accompany me and when we started voting by mail ballot I made sure they sat down with me while I filled in the bubbles.

The only problem is that they are so lazy, they just copy my ballot without studying the issues or candidates. In a way it's nice because it's like having three votes, but I would prefer if they thought things through for themselves. Still, I can live with this, LOL.

I would be disappointed if they didn't want to vote and would let my feelings known, but I wouldn't bribe them.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
41. I agree with this...
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:46 AM
Oct 2018

you get them involved early and it will stick with them. We've even discussed how sometimes we aren't sure where people stand on certain issues (in the smaller, local elections) but how you can find the info online (usually, unless the candidate is lazy) and you can make a decision from there. With email available now, absentee ballot for the one in college is a piece of cake. I must admit I still send him the stamps.

DFW

(54,397 posts)
33. I sure as hell never needed that
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 02:44 AM
Oct 2018

As soon as my children turned 18, they registered and have voted ever since.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
38. Took my 20 month old to the polls in the primaries.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:31 AM
Oct 2018

Will take him again in the general. Sorry he won't have a vote in this election but I'm working to get him ready for 2035.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
39. It would be cool if Taylor Swift told people to text her
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:43 AM
Oct 2018

After they voted and she would reply back. Honor system. Bet fans would love that.


Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
40. They shouldn't need a gift to get them to vote. Just drag their asses to the polls.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:46 AM
Oct 2018

Explain to them how it is important. Don't give them gifts for things they should just do as an adult. They aren't children anymore. They shouldn't expect instant gratification for everything they do. That's part of being an adult.

I don't have a child that old just yet. My oldest will be turning 16 next week. He will be voting in 2020 because he'll understand how important it is. He won't be receiving any gifts from me for it though. Nobody gives me gifts for voting.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. I'd definitely be in for "drag their asses to the polls" if
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:04 AM
Oct 2018

that were necessary and possible. I'd consider it a continuation of raising them, and my duty.

"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing." And just how many times can people refuse to act and still be good?

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
42. So they think they get a prize whenever they vote?
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:48 AM
Oct 2018

The prize is having the right to vote.

The prize is having a say in your own future.

The prize is having a chance to make lives better for others.

The prize is being a part of the process.

I mean, if you teach them that their vote has a price, then they become susceptible to the highest bidder.

Some things in life require work and duty. You don’t always get a cookie for doing the right thing.

Sorry, woke up in an extremely cynical mood.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
44. That no luxury for lessons leads us to the situation we are in now.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:59 AM
Oct 2018

Teaching civics education must be a Trump era priority.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
48. Yeah, plus the child needs to learn to do things without incentives from the parent all the time
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:21 AM
Oct 2018

I can't be doing that my whole life and I'm not going to be around forever.

I tell my oldest to mow the lawn. I don't give him anything for it, because I'd get nothing for it. You do it because it needs to be done and it is important to help each other out.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
46. Yes, but they shouldn't have to bribe their kids to be responsible adults and citizens
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:05 AM
Oct 2018

Frankly, I'm tired of hearing about what the national Democratic Party isn't doing to motivate young voters when the party is pulling out all the stops.

Where in the hell are these kids' parents? What kind of examples were they? What values did they instill in their children? Shouldn't THEY be doing something to get their kids' engaged?

Yes, they should incentivize their kids but if the only way to do it is to bribe them with material goodies, they already screwed up pretty bad.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
47. If you raise then properly, teach them responsibility, critical thinking, and compassion, you won't
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:07 AM
Oct 2018

be able to stop them from voting.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
49. 100% agree
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:53 AM
Oct 2018

I couldn't wait until I could vote because my parents instilled in me early on the importance of voting.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
51. I Put It On
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:02 AM
Oct 2018

schools as well. Kids have to be taught why some of this "politics" they always hear about is important. They shouldn't be showing up just when it's about them, because what isn't about you today may be about you or a loved one tomorrow. Kids complain about how there will be no social security when they retire and then don't vote. If there's no social security when they need it (which, frankly, I doubt will come to pass) it will be directly because of voting that takes place today and moving forward.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
52. What? Give them a bonus on the allowance?
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:03 AM
Oct 2018

When leaving home, my kids heard reminders about their responsibilities as citizens, taxpayers, and human beings in communities along with the fact that mom wouldn't be there to do it for them. If they are old enough to serve in the military, live independently, marry without consent, etc, they just need to step up. Cripes, you get a sticker for participating. Isn't that enough?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
53. My kid can't wait to vote.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:04 AM
Oct 2018

I swear she’s gonna snatch her mom’s absentee ballot and fill that shit out herself if she gets a chance!

I think you just need to model the proper behavior, make sure you discuss politics intelligently with your kids, and ensure that they’re always in the presence of political material (magazines, newspapers, whatever) and they’ll do right by you.

CountAllVotes

(20,875 posts)
54. They have no incentive to vote?
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:09 AM
Oct 2018

What fools they are!

As soon as I turned 18 I registered to vote. I could hardly wait! This was after the Vietnam war had about ended. I'd seen enough death and destruction and sick men coming back that I KNEW how important it is to vote.

Maybe they need to learn how important it is to vote. I don't think a cannabis laced cupcake will quite do the job

If they are too self-involved to care, well they shall reap what they sow which in this case will be a giant nothing. How very sad.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
55. My oldest will vote this midterm (19)
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:17 AM
Oct 2018

He voted last year and I have twins that will be 18 for the 2020 election and they will be happy to vote. All are aware enough to know the horror that currently squats in our White House.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
56. "Boundaries"
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:41 AM
Oct 2018

So, no. Parents should allow their ADULT children to live their lives as they see fit, and not bribe, threaten, or otherwise interfere with their decision-making.

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