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I keep hearing the pundits saying that there will only be normal turnout in midterms years in the 18-25 year demographic on Nov 6.
And that supposedly has Democratic political strategists very worried that they could be the difference in a lot of races.
So, Im asking parents of young adults 18-25 if their family members are excited to vote.
If not, would you consider an enticement to go with you to vote or provide proof they voted elsewhere? Maybe a gift certificate to their favorite restaurant, or Pottery Barn, cannabis oil,
Bed, bath, and beyond?
elleng
(130,933 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,205 posts).
I can't say the same for my 24 year old niece. My 30 year old nephew is finally coming around to it.
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aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)But a lot is dim these days. lol
Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)Or some such incentive.
But I don't know anything.
mysteryowl
(7,390 posts)I was proud to vote. It was an event for me I will always remember.
I think teaching your children about democracy and voting, is the better way.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Chad debacle.
My son and DIL(both 21) were very excited to vote as soon as they could and are eagerly looking forward to voting in the midterms, along with many of their friends.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,192 posts)It's stunning that they will allow their future to be decided by a bunch of crusty old farts like me. I just don't get it.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)If you don't vote you'll get stems and seeds... if you're lucky.
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Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)dislodging turds before they backup into DU.
MIR Team member extraordinaire, Ed Norton, learned all about politics after working under city hall for three weeks (one of the perks of the job).
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(1,595 posts)David__77
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Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)David__77
(23,418 posts)If the young person has no break in personal integrity and is true to him or herself, I see no problem!
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)If a poster has no real need in his life to perceive the nuances of basic grammar and English, I see no problem!
H2O Man
(73,558 posts)talk about "if" there is a normal mid-term turnout of voters ages 18-25 years, but haven't heard anyone predict that. I think that there will be a large turnout. I interact with a fair number of young people, and get the sense that they know how important this election is.
All of my children are politically active, and have been since well before they could vote. I think that most of their friends vote. Usually these days, one of them stops to give me a ride to vote.
Your OP has me thinking about my siblings and their children. Only one nephew doesn't vote. I know that all of my cousins vote -- with my father being one of fourteen siblings, I have a lot of cousins. Two are republicans, while over fifty are Democrats. And most of them have children who vote.
I also interact with students in the colleges in this region. What is interesting this fall is that the female students are leading the way. And there are female college students in more leadership positions in the House campaigns than I've ever seen, and I've been doing this a long time.
I apologize for not really answering your question. It's just outside of my experience. But I found the OP/thread interesting.
Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)H2O Man
(73,558 posts)Much appreciated.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)My grandmother, on my mother's side, had sixteen pregnancies. However, one ended in a miscarriage and another was stillborn. So my mother was one of fourteen siblings (live births). I too have a lot of cousins.
You never know, right?
H2O Man
(73,558 posts)About thirty years ago, at a Native American support group meeting, a woman was talking about her family's Revolutionary War-era history in PA. I told her that we were related. She thought I was nuts (correctly, of course). But ten years ago, while doing internet work on her family tree, she encountered my (maternal) aunt. Sure enough, we are related.
Twenty years ago, at a community-based meeting for families that got services at the mental health clinic I was employed at, a woman was talking about her family's roots in the Old Sod. Again, I said we were related. She was clearly offended, as she considered her family "lace curtain." When years later, my book on the contributions of the Irish immigrants contributions to the northeast came out, she noticed the photographs of my ancestors' family cemetery in Ireland. She compared them to photos she had taken to her ancestors' cemetery. I had been correct, much to her surprise.
And I have encountered a friend on DU who is a "distant" cousin. Small world. My children and I have done a couple of the available DNA tests, and have encountered cousins across the country. It's fascinating.
Luciferous
(6,080 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)Luciferous
(6,080 posts)Polybius
(15,423 posts)I was a 19 year old voter in 1992 and incentivized my mother to vote.
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)"You keep these fucking republicans in office and don't be surprised when we show up at you house with a 'we're movin' in'!"
Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)Blueman13
(34 posts)They are on the hook for their own cell phone bill if they do not vote (for those whose parents are paying the bill). Make them pay for something that they really should be paying for in the first place -- that will scare them to the polls. lol
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)We SHOULD explain to them why it is important that they vote. We SHOULD model the behavior by taking them with us to vote, helping them register and letting them see us volunteer and offer opportunities or them to volunteer with us. Encourage them to attend political debates, round tables and rallies with us.
We want to encourage their hearts and stimulate their minds, not offer punishments or enticements for voting.
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)No bribes needed here.
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)I took him with me when I knocked doors and he was still in a stroller. He has been to an Obama rally at age 5, several events with Senator Brown and various other candidates. He helped me knock doors for Hillary. I hope this instills in him that it is part of one's civic duty to at the very least vote.
IMO - I would approach older children the same way. Get them registered and take them with you to vote. Make it an event. Go vote and have lunch, see a movie, visit a park. If you both have to work on election day, see if you can vote early on a weekend at the BOE. I would not personally give someone a gift card for voting.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Yes, THAT Parkland. The worst school shooting massacre in recent history. Seventeen dead in less than seven minutes. Three teachers and 14 students. My niece knew everyone of the dead children. They were her friends. They were in her classes. She's not yet eligible to vote, but for all of the teens that turned 18 and graduated last June . . . . They are ALL registered.
I would rather have seen them incentivized with a trip to The Keys or Disney. But this is what life handed them, and believe me, these young people are VERY incentivized. They have plans to go as groups to the polls, vote and then go celebrate their first time voting. Then they are holding a vigil for all of those who would have graduated with the senior class but didn't make it.
Incentives come in many forms.
Laffy Kat
(16,382 posts)My mother always made sure I accompanied her in the voting booth from the time I was a baby. When I got older she let me pull the leavers and open the privacy curtain. I was so proud the first time I voted by myself and I knew exactly what to do. I did the same with my boys. If I went to a polling place I made sure to go when they could accompany me and when we started voting by mail ballot I made sure they sat down with me while I filled in the bubbles.
The only problem is that they are so lazy, they just copy my ballot without studying the issues or candidates. In a way it's nice because it's like having three votes, but I would prefer if they thought things through for themselves. Still, I can live with this, LOL.
I would be disappointed if they didn't want to vote and would let my feelings known, but I wouldn't bribe them.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)you get them involved early and it will stick with them. We've even discussed how sometimes we aren't sure where people stand on certain issues (in the smaller, local elections) but how you can find the info online (usually, unless the candidate is lazy) and you can make a decision from there. With email available now, absentee ballot for the one in college is a piece of cake. I must admit I still send him the stamps.
DFW
(54,397 posts)As soon as my children turned 18, they registered and have voted ever since.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Register and vote. Not sure Id be willing to do the bribery.
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Will take him again in the general. Sorry he won't have a vote in this election but I'm working to get him ready for 2035.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)After they voted and she would reply back. Honor system. Bet fans would love that.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)Explain to them how it is important. Don't give them gifts for things they should just do as an adult. They aren't children anymore. They shouldn't expect instant gratification for everything they do. That's part of being an adult.
I don't have a child that old just yet. My oldest will be turning 16 next week. He will be voting in 2020 because he'll understand how important it is. He won't be receiving any gifts from me for it though. Nobody gives me gifts for voting.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that were necessary and possible. I'd consider it a continuation of raising them, and my duty.
"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing." And just how many times can people refuse to act and still be good?
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)The prize is having the right to vote.
The prize is having a say in your own future.
The prize is having a chance to make lives better for others.
The prize is being a part of the process.
I mean, if you teach them that their vote has a price, then they become susceptible to the highest bidder.
Some things in life require work and duty. You dont always get a cookie for doing the right thing.
Sorry, woke up in an extremely cynical mood.
Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Teaching civics education must be a Trump era priority.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)I can't be doing that my whole life and I'm not going to be around forever.
I tell my oldest to mow the lawn. I don't give him anything for it, because I'd get nothing for it. You do it because it needs to be done and it is important to help each other out.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Frankly, I'm tired of hearing about what the national Democratic Party isn't doing to motivate young voters when the party is pulling out all the stops.
Where in the hell are these kids' parents? What kind of examples were they? What values did they instill in their children? Shouldn't THEY be doing something to get their kids' engaged?
Yes, they should incentivize their kids but if the only way to do it is to bribe them with material goodies, they already screwed up pretty bad.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)be able to stop them from voting.
inwiththenew
(972 posts)I couldn't wait until I could vote because my parents instilled in me early on the importance of voting.
RobinA
(9,893 posts)schools as well. Kids have to be taught why some of this "politics" they always hear about is important. They shouldn't be showing up just when it's about them, because what isn't about you today may be about you or a loved one tomorrow. Kids complain about how there will be no social security when they retire and then don't vote. If there's no social security when they need it (which, frankly, I doubt will come to pass) it will be directly because of voting that takes place today and moving forward.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)When leaving home, my kids heard reminders about their responsibilities as citizens, taxpayers, and human beings in communities along with the fact that mom wouldn't be there to do it for them. If they are old enough to serve in the military, live independently, marry without consent, etc, they just need to step up. Cripes, you get a sticker for participating. Isn't that enough?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I swear shes gonna snatch her moms absentee ballot and fill that shit out herself if she gets a chance!
I think you just need to model the proper behavior, make sure you discuss politics intelligently with your kids, and ensure that theyre always in the presence of political material (magazines, newspapers, whatever) and theyll do right by you.
CountAllVotes
(20,875 posts)What fools they are!
As soon as I turned 18 I registered to vote. I could hardly wait! This was after the Vietnam war had about ended. I'd seen enough death and destruction and sick men coming back that I KNEW how important it is to vote.
Maybe they need to learn how important it is to vote. I don't think a cannabis laced cupcake will quite do the job
If they are too self-involved to care, well they shall reap what they sow which in this case will be a giant nothing. How very sad.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)He voted last year and I have twins that will be 18 for the 2020 election and they will be happy to vote. All are aware enough to know the horror that currently squats in our White House.
MichMary
(1,714 posts)So, no. Parents should allow their ADULT children to live their lives as they see fit, and not bribe, threaten, or otherwise interfere with their decision-making.
Runningdawg
(4,517 posts)I would consider myself a parenting failure.