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teach1st

(5,935 posts)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 05:46 PM Oct 2018

No party? No more as (Florida) voters shift toward Democratic Party

No party? No more as voters shift toward Democratic Party
Tampa Bay Times, 10/8/2018

Colleen Branam of St. Petersburg was one of the 3.5 million voters in Florida with an independent streak. She was registered with no party affiliation, the fastest-growing segment of Florida's electorate in recent years.

But when Branam realized that independents can't vote in Florida's closed primaries and her voice would be limited to November, she became a Democrat.

Asked why, the 60-year-old grandmother and former hospital secretary didn't mince words. "I can't stand Trump," she said.

Tens of thousands of Florida voters have made the same change in recent months. What effect these party-switchers will have on the outcome will depend largely on turnout on Nov. 6, four weeks from Tuesday.


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No party? No more as (Florida) voters shift toward Democratic Party (Original Post) teach1st Oct 2018 OP
This is why all primaries should be closed manor321 Oct 2018 #1
+1000s DinahMoeHum Oct 2018 #2
Yep, don't want some Joe Smoe, with no party affiliation helping to decide the nominee for my party. Fla Dem Oct 2018 #4
I don't even know why the government is involved in primaries at all marylandblue Oct 2018 #5
Gov usually pays for state primaries unc70 Oct 2018 #6
Yes, I understand, but that's what I am objecting to. marylandblue Oct 2018 #7
Parties could instead run their own caucuses/primaries. David__77 Oct 2018 #9
Hear, Hear! mwooldri Oct 2018 #17
In Minnesota, we don't register by party. You simply register to vote, period. scarletwoman Oct 2018 #11
We don't declare in MO, either Gore1FL Oct 2018 #15
Florida Southern College poll: 'Narrow lead' for Andrew Gillum oberliner Oct 2018 #3
Outstanding. lpbk2713 Oct 2018 #8
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #13
My brother doesn't affiliate with a party (he will be voting Dem though) in Florida. IIRC, he's OnDoutside Oct 2018 #10
Terrific, keep it coming! 'I CAN'T STAND TRUMP: VOTE" appalachiablue Oct 2018 #12
The independent vote is very important. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #14
The Independent voters are who decides elections. 7962 Oct 2018 #18
not all of them. most of them are partisan and will vote the same party regularly JI7 Oct 2018 #19
Hmmm. I wonder which party they vote mainly. I'm guessing Republican. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #20
they can go either way JI7 Oct 2018 #21
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2018 #16
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. This is why all primaries should be closed
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 05:49 PM
Oct 2018

You want to have a say in our party? Do something very simple and register with the party.

Fla Dem

(23,765 posts)
4. Yep, don't want some Joe Smoe, with no party affiliation helping to decide the nominee for my party.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 05:54 PM
Oct 2018

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. I don't even know why the government is involved in primaries at all
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 06:00 PM
Oct 2018

They are really internal party matters. They should be entirely run and paid for by parties. Having the government run them blurs the distinction between a political party and the government.

unc70

(6,121 posts)
6. Gov usually pays for state primaries
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 06:20 PM
Oct 2018

It varies a lot by state, but when primaries are publicly funded and supervised then states get to set the rules.

David__77

(23,520 posts)
9. Parties could instead run their own caucuses/primaries.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 06:28 PM
Oct 2018

I tend to agree with you. I think perhaps parties should determine their own means to select how candidates get the party endorsement - whether through a vote of a committee or a party-run caucus/primary. Then that candidate will have become the "party candidate."

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
17. Hear, Hear!
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:25 PM
Oct 2018

That's how it tends to be in the rest of the world. When I was a paid up member of the Liberal Democrats I got to vote on who would be the party representative for my local constituency in the 1997 UK General Election. Non paying members didn't get a say as to who the candidate would be. However mind it is far easier to become a candidate in a UK general election than it is to be a US House Congresscritter.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
11. In Minnesota, we don't register by party. You simply register to vote, period.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 06:44 PM
Oct 2018

The only time you have to make a distinction is for voting in the Primary. Then you have to vote for a single party's candidates - but the ballots are designed with one party's candidates listed down one side, and the other party's candidates listed down the other side.

So even when you pick up a ballot, no one knows which party you'll be voting for, that only happens in the privacy of the voting booth. The restriction is that you can only vote for the candidates on one side or the other - no mixing.

If a ballot has votes on both sides, it's thrown out as invalid. And we use only paper ballots, btw.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. Florida Southern College poll: 'Narrow lead' for Andrew Gillum
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 05:54 PM
Oct 2018
A new poll shows “a narrow lead” for Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum over his Republican counterpart, Ron DeSantis.

But the poll, by the Florida Southern College Center for Polling and Policy Research, has a roughly 4½-point margin of error, and Gillum’s lead is just over 3 points.

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/276887-florida-southern-college-poll-narrow-lead-for-andrew-gillum

OnDoutside

(19,974 posts)
10. My brother doesn't affiliate with a party (he will be voting Dem though) in Florida. IIRC, he's
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 06:41 PM
Oct 2018

pissed off that in Florida so much of his info is publicly available, including party affiliation.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. The independent vote is very important.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:33 PM
Oct 2018

I'm hoping they decide to join the Blue Wave. I read somewhere that they are...not in FL, just generally.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
19. not all of them. most of them are partisan and will vote the same party regularly
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:39 PM
Oct 2018

those who are really independent and could go either way are smaller.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. Hmmm. I wonder which party they vote mainly. I'm guessing Republican.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:53 PM
Oct 2018

But I'm also guessing the Republican voting independents are libertarians, and the rest of the independents are moderates, or have one foot in each party. Like economically conservative but socially liberal, and on both counts are moderate about those things. In other words, they don't feel they totally belong to either party.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
21. they can go either way
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 11:52 PM
Oct 2018

kerry, obama 2008, romney 2012 all won them. so you can see they winning them doesn't always mean winning the election either.

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