Avenatti unveils "FightPac"

[oldtime dfl_er]

https://www.thefightpac.org/

[Funtatlaguy]

1. Well, this should be interesting. Where's my 🍿

[Desert grandma]

2. Thanks for this info

I donated some $$. We DO need to fight back and whatever works is the thing to do.

[jberryhill]

31. Michael thanks you

[bdamomma]

3. sounds good to me.

I just donated. I'm going to do everything in my power to get these SOB's out.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. How much of the money will go to his presidential campaign?

I can think of better uses of my money - I'm contributing directly to candidates I support.

[oldtime dfl_er]

7. What difference does it make?

He's loud, he's on our side, and he has the attention of the media. That's more than can be said for Chuck Schumer or a whole host of others. I would throw money at him just to see him make noise. We NEED that.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. The stated goal of "defeating GOP candidates" doesn't tell me anything

about what will be done with the money - how it will be used, to whom it will be distributed, and who decides. Avenatti is a showman and a self-promoter and I don't trust him. My donations won't be going to anybody's PAC but directly to candidates - that way I know it will be used the way I want it to be used.

[oldtime dfl_er]

11. Not going to argue with you

Your way is as good as any.

We should get big money out of politics altogether, IMHO, although that's a pipe dream at this point.

[lunatica]

16. I'm already donating to candidates across the country so

I’ll give the Fight PAC a little and see how it goes. I’m intrigued by the idea of fighting to win on our side, instead of holding back so much out of political politeness. Normally I wouldn’t support this tactic, but there’s just too much at stake.

I’ve been an activist union member for decades and know first hand that it’s when you stop asking politely like Oliver Twist and start using the courts as a means to force your requests be taken seriously you get real results. Avenatti is a pro in this system of getting fair justice. I trust that part of him.

I’m also not averse to him running for office. It’s our American right to do so. If he fails then best to know it for a fact.

[oldtime dfl_er]

24. Yes!

Drumpf has been using the courts and threat of courts all his life to bully and browbeat and intimidate. High time we did the same.

[WeekiWater]

27. I'm with you.

And it’s under a month out. Seems like this is being set up for the future.

It’s rough around here if you say the slightest negative thing about Avenatti. I saw Steins recount as a scam on day one. This one isn’t as clear but it seems pretty obvious it will have little impact this time around. I do have a PAC I donate to but I like for my money to go directly to the candidates and the DNC.

[laserhaas]

5. I'm on board

[snowybirdie]

6. Sorry

But despite his over the top activism, I can't bring myself to trust him. Now he wants my money? Don't think so.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. I'm with you. Donate directly to candidates who need the money.

That way the donation is accounted for and you know it will be used the way you want it to be used. The more I see of Avenatti the less I trust him. I think he's in it for his own ambitions.

[pnwmom]

20. And that makes sense for most people, who wouldn't make large donations anyway.

The PAC gets around donation limits. As long as Citizens v. United is in effect, we shouldn't allow only the R's to benefit.

[jberryhill]

32. He paid himself over $30k and recorded not a single penny....

...on behalf of any candidates for office in 2018.

Not one cent.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211784562

22. Transfers to Affiliated/Other Party Committees 0.00 0.00
23. Contributions to Fed. Candidates/Committees and Other Political Committees 0.00 0.00
24. Independent Expenditures (SCHEDULE E) 0.00 0.00
25. Coordinated Expenditures Made by Party Committees (SCHEDULE F) 0.00 0.00

30. Federal Election Activity
(a) (i) Allocated Federal Election Activity - Federal Share (SCHEDULE H6) 0.00 0.00
(a) (ii) Allocated Federal Election Activity - Levin Share (SCHEDULE H6) 0.00 0.00
(b) Federal Election Activity Paid Entirely with Federal Funds 0.00 0.00
(c) Total Federal Election Activity ( 30(a)(i)+30(a)(ii)+30(b) ) 0.00 0.00

[mopinko]

9. well, he has a month. let's see what he can accomplish.

get some other people elected and we will think about you, michael.

[calimary]

12. I'm in. This is what we've needed.

And I’m honestly sorry about it. Dreadfully sorry about it. But this is how it has to be. Unfortunately, we can’t afford to be nice and fight fair and all those good above-board and admirable things. Not in THIS game. Not in THIS era.

We HAVE to fight dirty. We can’t afford to follow rules when the opposition won’t. Rules only work and only have meaning when both sides honor those rules and honestly play by those rules. When one side refuses to, then you automatically have a tilted playing field where the rule breakers have the advantage.

So I’ve come to believe that WE have to ignore those rules and fight as dirty as we can. Because, sadly enough, that’s the name of the game. Not only are rules made to be broken, but following those rules just gets you ROLLED.

Rules get you rolled.

[oldtime dfl_er]

15. My sentiments exactly

expressed better by you! Thanks

[HipChick]

18. I am in...

[BigmanPigman]

19. Yep, Bill !Maher has been saying this all along

and his guests hardly ever support him. I have said it on DU and get nasty replies about "not stooping to their behavior, do we really want to have no morals just to win like they do", etc. We are fighting for our country and this is no exaggeration. I am stubborn and love my country and HATE the GOP!

[DemocracyMouse]

23. Who said being strong is immoral? These arguments against Avenatti are like...

telling women you can't wear a miniskirt and speak with anger.

Has Avenatti ever taken a position in support of the powerful? He defended the weak – an adult filmmaker and a woman alleging sexual abuse.

Check your prejudices people. Did Jesus turn away from Mary Magdalen?

I think what rubs some people funny anout Avenatti is a certain street toughness. There's class and sex worker prejudice in the mix here. Avenatti was spoken of in glowing terms by a former professor of his. He was deemed incredibly bright.

We need all hands on deck people. Give Avenatti a break. Do you only want to partner with groomed, prep school smoothies (many with Wall Street support)?

[gay texan]

21. I'm so totally in

For a long time, we have needed somebody to show the left how to truly fight the GOP bastards. We ain't going to win it by playing both sides of the aisle. Every time we've tried that we keep getting rolled over

[0rganism]

13. desperately needs to fix pictures on the front page

one of the last things i want to look at when i load a political page is the inside of someone's nose - even Mr. Avenatti's most excellent schnoz

interesting choice - conventional wisdom is you want to avoid bottom-up photographs of people as it reduces sympathy.

[oldtime dfl_er]

14. Send him a note

I bet he would fix it. I agree with you, it's not a great looking page.

[Trust Buster]

17. No dice.

[leftofcool]

22. I will be donating the max, so will hubby.

[WeekiWater]

28. Please send some of that $10,000 to Gillum.

I think $5,000/individual is the current max cont to a PAC per year.

https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/limits.php

[Charlotte Little]

25. Not a fan of Avenatti

He blew it with this last go-around. Ian Masters called him a Trump-clone basically. Same bully bluster not backed by much.

I say it won't end well with this guy constantly inserting himself into the narrative. And I absolutely do not want him running in 2020.

We need experienced adults or this country will just continue to implode.

I've decided to donate to Beto (and make phone calls for him). Better use of my time and money.

[Roland99]

26. He's deleted his tweet and ActBlue page linked to Beto donations

As a default, donations were split 50/50 between Beto and Avenatti

And given Beto’s campaign does NOT accept money from PACs, arguably all donations would have ended up in Avenatti’s hands

This guy smells. Badly. Way too many people up here get enamored of anyone boisterous and loud who appears to fight against Trumpers. How many have to Jill Stein when she was going to demand recounts to help Hillary? Stein collected millions and didn’t spend it on recounts.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

29. I'm guessing Beto's campaign got wind of it and made them take it down.

You had to read the fine print and go to a second page in order to reallocate the donation to something other than 50-50. It might have been technically legal but it was deceptive and made me trust Avenatti even less than I did already, which was about as far as I could throw a grand piano. Just shows how easily a flashy loudmouth can fool people if they know all the right things to say. Exhibit A: Donald Trump.

[greytdemocrat]

30. I don't trust Avenatti

Sleeze comes to mind.