Avenatti: "we have very different views as to how to solve the crisis of Donald Trump"

[triron]

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

1. Fight fire with fire.

The only way to deal with a bully

[Tavarious Jackson]

2. I like Avenatti.

I'm not sure about President but democrats need an attack dog on the side. I don't think going high has worked for us.

[oldtime dfl_er]

33. My thoughts exactly!!

Let him run for president! There's plenty of time. For the moment he is a necessary and welcome voice.

[DemocracyMouse]

37. Avenatti has been forceful and colorful, but not low

He's just more forthright. That's not stooping to the level of the Republicans at all. He and Michelle Obama are not incompatible on the "If they go low, we go high" thing. They should do a special TV thing on the subject... (fold in Stormy Daniels?)

[manor321]

3. I'm with Booker first

But I'd support Avenatti if he won the primary. This criticism of Booker is nonsense. Avenatti almost sounds like he's saying "Only I can fix it!", just like someone else we know.

I'm looking for young experienced politicians like Booker before wildcards like Avenatti.

[JI7]

4. as seen with Kavanaugh, Avenatti wasn't able to do much

in the end it's still just about having more democrats in office regardless of how they are.

also people like Corey booker usually are limited in how they respond becsuse of bigotry.

[triron]

5. No he isn't. He just thinks Booker's approach is inadequate.

[onetexan]

40. Agree

So far DOTUS isnt afraid of anybody but he sure seems to be afraid of avenatti. We need an attack dog like Avenatti to kick him around and get under his skin as Avenatti's done so effectively in the past few months.

[spooky3]

6. He's simply saying he believes Dems' fighting back is

the way to go. I don’t see that as arrogance, but just how he feels after watching the events of the past few years.

[JI7]

7. but avenatti himself wasn't that effective. and Booker himself has been tough.

what he quoted implies something that isn't true about booker.

[spooky3]

8. He's been very effective over the course of the past year.

There was very little he could do in the last week because the Republicans refused to allow his client to be heard or investigated. And he clearly was holding back because he was respecting Democrats’ concerns and waiting and hoping that the FBI would contact him. AFAIK, his client did only one TV interview.

[brush]

9. Hasn't been effective? What do you thing Cohen's pleas that incriminated trump is?

Avenatti drove that whole thing.

[JI7]

10. im referring to the senate and what booker is dealing with

booker is limited in the same way any democrat is . but it doesn't mean booker has not been tough and isn't a fighter.

[brush]

12. I like Booker. You are right, his and Dem hands are tied. Avenatti's aren't...

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so he can work without the restraints of Congress.

Avenatti can be the bulldog who doesn't have to bit his tongue.

Hope the Dem pols see that and have back channel communications with Avenatti.

Not likely though as many of our politicians have presidential ambitions and may see Avenatti as a possible contender also.

[leftofcool]

39. Nope, their hands are not tied

Booker, Schumer and others could be holding press conferences every day. They could be refuting publicly everything Trump says that is a lie. They don't have to bite their tongues that's just what they tell you they have to do. What you are calling restraint, we refer to as spineless in our home. This is exactly what Avenatti has been saying and he is not wrong.

[brush]

41. I agree with Avenatti. What I meant is that Dems hands are tied because...

the repugs hold the Speakership, Majority Leader position and all the committee chairs. We have no power in that regard...can't hold hearings, investigations or issue subpoenas.

I'm a fan of Avenatti's and want him to continue what he's doing.

If we want more like him we have to elect them and not look to the milquetoasts to suddenly become something that they aren't. One of them even railroaded the outspoken Franken out of the Senate.

[Va Lefty]

11. Love Avenatti!

[Quixote1818]

13. Avenatti is right. Don't give an inch to these ass holes! Don't let Trump be the Alpha Dog. nt

[Buns_of_Fire]

14. "There's only one way to deal with a man like trumo...

"If he sends a tweet calling you a loser, you send TWO tweets pointing out his bankruptcies. If he sends three tweets insulting your parents, you send FIVE tweets wondering if a mushroom-shaped penis is natural or the result of botched plastic surgery. That's the Chicago way."

I can hear Sean Connery saying it to Kevin Costner now.

[brush]

16. I like.

[deurbano]

32. I LOVE Avenatti's repeated taunts about the vile con man being born w/a gold toilet under his butt!

(In addition to the silver spoon in his mouth...)

[Newland56]

15. We need both and everyone in between

Great to see we have people with different skills sets on our side.
I like em both
I love Avenatti for his streetfighting brawlers, take no shit and punch back twice as hard attitude
I love Corey for his compassion and respect.
We need them both to speak to the entire range of our party and reach as many as possible that are not in the party.
Keep up the great work and thank you both

[brush]

18. Yes hope they can work together as "Mr Inside" and "Mr Outside".

[Newland56]

19. Many moods and emotions

Yes yes
Sometimes my mind wants to listen to Corey help us aspire to he “better angels of our nature”

But then sometimes I’m so mad I want Avenatti to take those angels and kick the ever loving shit out of every republican in sight

[brush]

23. I'm with you, especially the Avenatti part. I'm boiling about that attempted rapist on the Court.

[libdem4life]

17. Nothing against Booker...the Dems are for the most part "polite" and "proper"

Kind of above the whole sordid mess of partisan politics. The Rs have no problem getting down and dirty. That's how we seem to end up in these messes. That's why I'm a Democrat but also sometimes why I hate being a Democrat. Go figure.

But I Love Avenatti. We kind of got him not in the usual way...which is an understatement...and maybe why he hasn't been "sanitized".

[JI7]

22. in the case of Corey Booker he could not respond in certain ways

becsuse black men who do wil be seen a certain way.

but i don't think booker is naturally that type.

but he is still tough and a fighter.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

26. senate

Senator Booker is limited by law and the rules of the Senate. The latter is more restrictive. Ask Senator Warren how unevenly those rules can be invoked by McCONnell.

Avenatti is only limited by what the law allows. Unless and until Repugs completely corrupt the SCOTUS, political speech is still the most protected speech there is. It's actually quite hard to libel or slander a POTUS. Even a fake POTUS.

[libdem4life]

27. I really like him. He's no Michael Avenatti, however.

In fact we don't have another D with any political street fight impulses, like the Rs do. Funny...the closest we have is a 1/2 black woman (Harris) and a black man (Booker). The Rs don't have to worry. They have a party of angry old, white men.

[JI7]

31. Avenatti isn't holding elected office

i think need people like that outside political office and good people inside.

but you can't expect those who need votes to get into office to behave in certain ways.

it works for republicans becsuse they are a bigoted party of white people agsinst everyone else.

[bitterross]

20. Cory Booker has to be diplomatic, otherwise he's an "angry black man"

Some people don't have the luxury of throwing temper tantrums or rasing their voice. African American men cannot be angry like Kavanaugh or Avanatti.

When they are they are scary to people.

[marylandblue]

24. Yes, that's why, unfortunately, we need a white man in 2020

Only a white man can do what Kavanaugh did.

[marylandblue]

21. I like Booker, but he doesn't get it

Trump will make it personal and call it weakness if you don't punch back. That's the only reason I prefer Biden right now. He gets it. He punches back.

[fallout87]

25. My problem with Avenatti is that he's an opportunist.

Democratic strategists agree that the way he handled Swetnick and her allegations definitely put a cloud over Dr. Ford and was easy for some to dismiss them all together.

[triron]

28. Source?

[fallout87]

34. Here's a few:

Did Michael Avenatti help doom the case against Brett Kavanaugh?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/05/did-michael-avenatti-help-doom-case-against-brett-kavanaugh/?utm_term=.841ed414202d


Democrats to Michael Avenatti: You’re Not Helping in the Kavanaugh Fight
https://www.thedailybeast.com/democrats-to-avenatti-youre-not-helping-in-the-kavanaugh-fight

Democrats say Avenatti undercut their case against Kavanaugh
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/06/politics/democrats-avenatti-swetnick-accusation/index.html

Asked if Avenatti was helpful, Peters said: "I think we should have focused on the serious allegations that certainly appeared very credible to me that would be our best course of action."
Privately, the assessment was far more scathing.
"Democrats and the country would have been better off if Mr. Avenatti spent his time on his Iowa vanity project rather than meddling in Supreme Court fights," a senior Senate Democratic aide fumed, referring to Avenatti toying with the idea of seeking the Democratic presidential nomination. "His involvement set us back, absolutely."
A Democratic senator, who asked to remain anonymous to speak candidly, said: "Not helpful at all. I think Susan was always yes, but Avenatti was a useful foil."

[triron]

42. Even so I disagree with your assertion and I am not happy with any democrats that blame Avenatti.

He is a fighter. They bring butter knives to a gunfight.

[fallout87]

43. Agreed that he's a fighter...

But his tactics and his love for the spotlight are costing us. Did he contact Feinstein or anyone from our party with Swetnicks claims, or did he run straight to the media/twitter?

[bucolic_frolic]

29. Avenatti has the freedom to bite back

Booker has a party and an elected position to consider

So I have no problems with either of them.

[FakeNoose]

35. Right - Cory Booker has more on the line right now

I don't blame him for trying to play as smart as possible. Avenatti can afford to be more aggressive because he doesn't have a Senate seat he can lose. We need both of these guys, and many more!

[Vinca]

30. This is not a time to be Corey Milquetoast.

It should be clear where being nice guys gets us: nowhere.

[Pepsidog]

36. I want a bare knuckle brawler who can take a punch and deliver a knockout counter-punch

[reACTIONary]

38. I believe most Americans ....

.., even quite a few repugs, have had it with the Dotard's mud wrestling. Why would we want a cadidate that acts like a Dotard?