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wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 05:25 PM Oct 2018

Why Joe Manchin had an easy primary? Don Blankenship

We were all distracted by Blankenship's "Chinaperson" remarks to really pay attention to Manchin's primary challenger. Seriously, against a racist, criminal, murdering coal baron, even Patrick Morrisey looks good in comparison.

Still pissed about the way he treated Ford, but I'll just blame the state of W. Virginia for producing Manchin.

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Why Joe Manchin had an easy primary? Don Blankenship (Original Post) wellst0nev0ter Oct 2018 OP
No. His primary challenger was an immature, dishonest wackjob. phleshdef Oct 2018 #1
also what are those not in wv supposed to do JI7 Oct 2018 #4
Manchin sounds like Mancha, and mancha means stain. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2018 #2
are you in west virginia ? JI7 Oct 2018 #3
Reminds me of Chris Bowers on MyDD circa 2006 Awsi Dooger Oct 2018 #5
Don't forget Ojeda peggysue2 Oct 2018 #6
Blakenship isn't the only Mendocino Oct 2018 #7
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
1. No. His primary challenger was an immature, dishonest wackjob.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 05:29 PM
Oct 2018

I've no love for Manchin at this point. Zero. But Swearingen is a piece of work.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
4. also what are those not in wv supposed to do
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 05:37 PM
Oct 2018

west virginia is a place where people wouldn't care what those out of the state wanted and might actually work against that candidate.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
5. Reminds me of Chris Bowers on MyDD circa 2006
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 05:55 PM
Oct 2018

Determined to force his ideology everywhere, even in states where it would be rejected with a laugh.

I warned Bowers repeatedly that the push from the extreme of both parties could only benefit Republicans, since it would be exponentially easier for them to get their wing nuts elected in state after state, and once that happened not only would the numbers tilt in the wrong direction but there would be a seismic shift of what is considered midstream moderate and what is considered midstream conservative.

Bowers responded by giving me a warning, saying I was disrupting the website.

Gillum vs DeSantis is an interesting example of what I was referring to in 2006. We have a very good chance because that is Florida, a state not overly red, and with 2018 a pro-blue year nationally. But run that type of race in the vast majority of states and DeSantis is going to be the clear winner. Republicans previously did not dare nominate someone that far to the extreme. Now they are emboldened to do it time and again, and they would absolutely win that race in Florida in 2018 if let's say Hillary had been elected in 2016. The same mindset emboldens then to nominate and push through someone like Brett Kavanaugh.

Situational analysis is never a strength of our party. But that variable is everything. I seriously doubt the people who want to challenge Joe Manchin va primary have ever driven through states like West Virginia, or anywhere in the south or the conservative rural states, and listened to talk radio or conversation in a local eatery.

The demographic shifts are in our favor but this aspect of internet and activist involvement in the nomination process is an absolute disaster for our side. We were far better off when actual moderates were in play on both sides.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
6. Don't forget Ojeda
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 07:12 PM
Oct 2018

Think he's running in the 3rd district, Dem candidate for the House. He's a firebreather. A former coal miner, Marine and Trump voter, who was beaten savagely during one of his state/primary elections. He gave up on Trump and came home to the Democratic Party with a strong working-class message on jobs, education, salary and healthcare.

He should be interesting to watch. He's also been leading in most polls. If we want to turn states like WVa around it's going to be with candidates like Ojeda: of the people and of the land. He speaks their language. And the man is tough as nails.

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