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For the health of our Republic... (Original Post)
pbmus
Oct 2018
OP
Grasswire2
(13,570 posts)1. scorched earth
One tactic might be to force "moderate" Republicans to step out.
Call them out by name and ask them if they stand with Trump or the Constitution.
Colin Powell
Tom Brokaw
where are they?
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)2. What's a "moderate" Republican?
None left in Congress, that's for sure.
Grasswire2
(13,570 posts)4. the ones who used to be leaders of the party but now are silent.
How long since we heard from Colin Powell?
Grasswire2
(13,570 posts)5. from the article in the OP
MB: There is a small group of Never Trump conservatives. But it is a small group, and Ive actually been surprised that there are not more of us. Theres enough of us for a dinner party, not a political party. I wish there were more. Within the grassroots, a lot of people really love the Trump message, the racism, the xenophobia, the nonstop insults against liberals. Thats actually what they like most about him. And in Washington, there are a lot of cynical people who say, Well, Trump has the support of 84 percent of Republicans, so we cant get on his bad side. These people that I used to admire have sold out their principles. Nobodys more shocked and surprised than I am. This is a movement to which I dedicated my whole life. And now I realize, what the hell was that about? Who were these people? Theyre not who I thought they were.
DC: But what does it mean for you, personally, to be untethered in this way?
MB: It makes me realize how much of American politics is tribal and how little of it has to do with principles or ideas. The reason why so many people are Republicans is because they hate Democrats; the actual substance of what Republicans stand for almost doesnt matter. And thats been a shocking realization. I reregistered as an independent the day after the election and no longer think of myself as a member of that community. On a personal level, its been a difficult experience because much of my identity was tied up in the conservative movement. And its hard for me to talk to a lot of my friendsthe gap between us is so wide. But Ive also realized the extent to which I had tailored my public statements to what the movement would find acceptable. I didnt say anything I didnt believe in, but there was a lot of stuff that I just didnt comment on. I think its crazy that Republicans are opposed to all gun control when we have such a rampant problem with gun violence. But I just never tackled it. Or when Republicans deny climate change, which is a scientific fact, I didnt deal with it. I just stayed in my lane, foreign policy and national security policy, and ignored the craziness all around me. I went with the tribe. I took the path of least resistance, and now its making me realize, no, Ive got to think for myself, and thats something very few people do, because being part of one of these political tribes, as much as anything, is a substitute for thought. So its been both chastening and liberating to escape from that stifling orthodoxy.
DC: In the book, you write, Only if the GOP as currently constituted is burned to the ground will there be any chance to build a reasonable center-right political party out of the ashes. So your position now, Max, is burn, baby, burn. It sounds like the old Marxists.
Ive always believed in America and the goodness and greatness of Americathats really been my greatest faith, and that faith has been battered.
MB: I respect some of my friends trying to work on reforming the Republican Party, but at least for the time being, I think its a lost cause. So my hope is that the Republican Party will suffer massive and repeated drubbings at the ballot box. Thats why I urge everybody to vote straight-ticket Democratic even though I have a lot of disagreements with Democrats. Im not a Democrat; Im an independent. But for the health of our republic, I think we need to destroy the Republican Party. We need congressional oversight of Donald Trump, which youre never going to get out of Republicans. I think you need to punish the Republicans for taking these appalling positions, abusing minorities, championing white nationalism, isolationism, protectionism. The only way to wean them from that is to punish them electorally.