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Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 03:47 PM Oct 2018

A darker reason why Trump chose Kavanaugh. Much darker.

Look. Eyes wide open.

Kavanaugh was deliberately chosen TO RILE women and the left.

Kavanaugh was coached to go berserk TO RILE women and the left.

It was the plan.

What happened next?

Plotters (old men) throw fuel on the fire. From the playbook of abusive men. Women=hysterical. Dems=ungovernable.

Trump and the base now assume the victim status. It's his go-to, and it riles the base.

He's building rationale for Act Two. Watch.

And Kavanaugh was the fire starter. His berserk rant set it all in motion.

JUST AS PLANNED. JUST AS F&^(ING PLANNED.

They played us from Kav's first sentence.



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A darker reason why Trump chose Kavanaugh. Much darker. (Original Post) Grasswire2 Oct 2018 OP
given all the maneuvering and dealing with Kennedy, and all the tie-ins with the son and shady bank anarch Oct 2018 #1
yes....he's the Michael Cohen on the bench. The FIXER. nt Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #3
+1. Note his history with Ken Starr and the Bush administration. issuesDemocrats Oct 2018 #17
yes, a man for all seasons Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #22
Kavanaugh is a vile political operative like... magicarpet Oct 2018 #27
yep Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #28
I'd wager that fucker hasn't seen the inside of a confessional since he had to go get the Merit Badg Volaris Oct 2018 #41
Kavanaugh is there to vote no on indictments for trump pbmus Oct 2018 #2
It's also about over-arching plans. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #6
KavaNOPE has made clear his eagerness to please MountCleaners Oct 2018 #12
I think Trump chose Kavanaugh to protect Trump's behind. LisaL Oct 2018 #4
It won't be long before they start suppressing dissent by violent means. Still In Wisconsin Oct 2018 #5
yes Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #7
Yes. Expect a modern-day equivalent of the Reichstag fire... Still In Wisconsin Oct 2018 #15
Yale holocaust historian Timothy Snyder forecasts it all. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #20
The Brownshirts wanted blood, too. Mister Ed Oct 2018 #33
And its no coincidence that they are pushing the lie that the K vote has energized the R base. Squinch Oct 2018 #8
yes -- we are in a whole new phase.. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #10
Notice that they're repeatedly calling Dems 'an angry mob' lately? pecosbob Oct 2018 #9
And whipping up the mobs of base. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #11
No manor321 Oct 2018 #13
Ken Starr, George W. Bush...etc. issuesDemocrats Oct 2018 #18
He also did it to please the Evangelicals...He needs them! BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #14
yes, of many reasons Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #16
Well, I can tell you that this normally peaceful, pacifist BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #24
We're not those things...we just VOTE. Volaris Oct 2018 #42
Yep. He was at the White House for days/weeks & rehearsed this. Reps keep saying this energized kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2018 #19
...and Don McGahn was deeply involved. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #23
I can't think of a reason why this most basic aspect wasn't part of the agreement, on our part. JudyM Oct 2018 #32
There are so many dots connecting, creates dark shadows empedocles Oct 2018 #21
You got it Grasswire njhoneybadger Oct 2018 #25
Careful, you will be called a defeatist here soon. lancelyons Oct 2018 #26
Phooey. nt Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #30
So there has to be a double cross somewhere Buckeyeblue Oct 2018 #29
that is an encouraging thought Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #31
Yes and I think Roberts has it in him to do it. Volaris Oct 2018 #44
i pray it is pyrrhic. may the moron be hoist upon his own petard. pansypoo53219 Oct 2018 #34
I just don't think they're that smart. UTUSN Oct 2018 #35
who do you mean when you say "they"? nt Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #37
"Trump and his base" and the Old White Male - who did you have in mind? UTUSN Oct 2018 #38
Just wondered if you meant Senate leadership, or someone in the WH, or....? Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #39
The whole ball of wax of them. I was responding to whom you cited. UTUSN Oct 2018 #40
He chose Kavanaugh because he would literally lock Hillary up if given the chance. Initech Oct 2018 #36
Ken Starr had to be paid off. (eom) StevieM Oct 2018 #43

anarch

(6,535 posts)
1. given all the maneuvering and dealing with Kennedy, and all the tie-ins with the son and shady bank
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 03:52 PM
Oct 2018

deals, etc., I was thinking there's also some measure of control the administration can expect to exert over Rapey Bart. I mean, he's their man, he will rule their way, no question; no other nominee would have had quite the same "qualifications."

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
22. yes, a man for all seasons
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:27 PM
Oct 2018

Not only did he craft the ugly questions that Starr asked Bill Clinton about Monica, but he was instrumental in stopping the Florida recount in 2000.

magicarpet

(14,150 posts)
27. Kavanaugh is a vile political operative like...
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 05:33 PM
Oct 2018

... the vipers Lee Atwater and Roger Stone. Go to guys when the Rethugs want filthy dirty tricks played to decimate the political opposition DemocRat Party. No ethics, no morality, no honesty,.. the most ruthless approach to win at all costs. Down and dirty at every bend and turn.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
41. I'd wager that fucker hasn't seen the inside of a confessional since he had to go get the Merit Badg
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 01:11 AM
Oct 2018

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
2. Kavanaugh is there to vote no on indictments for trump
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 03:53 PM
Oct 2018

And staff...this is all about criminality...it’s been about criminal behavior since nixon....Reagan, bush, trump....repukes are always trying to cover there shit and most of the time they can’t even shit in the litter box...

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
6. It's also about over-arching plans.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 03:57 PM
Oct 2018

Trump can go the full Mussolini at any time he sees it as an advantage.

Riling the base to the point of berserkery is a distinct advantage for him.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
12. KavaNOPE has made clear his eagerness to please
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:06 PM
Oct 2018

It could be partly or wholly because of his past, but he will do anything for his masters.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
5. It won't be long before they start suppressing dissent by violent means.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 03:57 PM
Oct 2018

Think attack dogs and firehoses at Progressive rallies and demonstrations. Think private riot police at MAGA rallies. Think mass incarceration of protesters against the TRUMP regime. Execution of political leaders who oppose TRUMP.

Think it won't happen? So did many Germans in the 1920s and 30s.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
15. Yes. Expect a modern-day equivalent of the Reichstag fire...
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:16 PM
Oct 2018

followed by a modern-day Kristallnacht. It's coming. The MAGAs are coming, and they want blood.

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
20. Yale holocaust historian Timothy Snyder forecasts it all.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:25 PM
Oct 2018

His slim book "On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From The Twentieth Century" as well as his subsequent book "The Road To Unfreedom" and his wife Marci Shore's book "The Ukrainian Night" -- she's a scholar of Eastern European pre-totalitarian and totalitarian era history.

Mister Ed

(5,934 posts)
33. The Brownshirts wanted blood, too.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 06:18 PM
Oct 2018

And blood there was. More than the world had ever seen.

But not just the blood of the Brownshirts' intended victims. No, it was their own blood as well, and that of millions of others.

I feel it in my bones: November 6th is the last, best hope to ward off such a disaster as that, for the sake of all.


Squinch

(50,949 posts)
8. And its no coincidence that they are pushing the lie that the K vote has energized the R base.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:00 PM
Oct 2018

There is no data to support this, but they will use this as the explanation when the voting results completely contradict every poll that was done before the election.

I am truly afraid.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
9. Notice that they're repeatedly calling Dems 'an angry mob' lately?
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:00 PM
Oct 2018

That's just what the ****s did before they outlawed political parties (other than theirs). I think they're moving to criminalize all types of protest and increase the use of private mercenaries for domestic law enforcement in situations such as they did at the pipeline protests in Dakota...modern age Pinkertons breaking up strikes.

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
14. He also did it to please the Evangelicals...He needs them!
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:13 PM
Oct 2018

He promised them a anti- abortion, anti - gay rights judge.

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
16. yes, of many reasons
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:22 PM
Oct 2018

But Kavanaugh was coached to go berserk to light the fire that allows Trump et al RIGHT NOW to characterize women and Dems as ungovernable and violent.

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
24. Well, I can tell you that this normally peaceful, pacifist
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:37 PM
Oct 2018

female feels pretty violent towards the GOP right now!

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
42. We're not those things...we just VOTE.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 01:16 AM
Oct 2018

And THATS what scares the fuck out of him...he KNOWS that even if we just take the house, what the investigations will kick loose WILL ensure he dies in prison

He should be afraid.
The worthless fucker.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
19. Yep. He was at the White House for days/weeks & rehearsed this. Reps keep saying this energized
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:25 PM
Oct 2018

their base. The way poor Rapey Brett was victimized by these women and the lefties. Let's face it, these men are deathly afraid of any woman who might stand up to them. I don't know if their calculations will be correct.

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
23. ...and Don McGahn was deeply involved.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:29 PM
Oct 2018

It was a plot. DiFi and her futzing around when Grassley offered an "impromptu" "gentleman's agreement." She should have immediately insisted on parameters. It was a plot.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
32. I can't think of a reason why this most basic aspect wasn't part of the agreement, on our part.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 06:18 PM
Oct 2018

When we were shocked at their not even bare bones effort, we then played into their complaint that we were whiners and would never be satisfied. They are playing chess to our checkers every time, we need more shrewd moves. They play us and play us, how come our legislators end up flat footed? Even Obama with getting his arm twisted. They are devious and we need to start seeing just how devious they are and outplaying them.

When we had both houses and the White House we damn well should’ve set some legislation to protect the integrity of the vote.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
21. There are so many dots connecting, creates dark shadows
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:27 PM
Oct 2018

in a lot of places. Even more 'grey' bed day areas.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
25. You got it Grasswire
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:54 PM
Oct 2018

They're the victims, democrats are an out of control mob.
We should not mention going after Kavanaugh or impeaching the Orange one.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
29. So there has to be a double cross somewhere
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 06:04 PM
Oct 2018

Old guard Repugs will not allow 45 to succeed. He spit on them. He continues to thumb his nose at them. And he is anti free trade which runs counter to the Regan wing's trade policy. Mostly, they just don't like him.

So one of the five Repug appointed justices will not look like the others. I say it will be Roberts. It's his court. And his legacy.

Alito is not courageous. Thomas is part of them. The other two are beholden.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
44. Yes and I think Roberts has it in him to do it.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 01:23 AM
Oct 2018

But be warned ..the man is NOT a liberal. In the correct order of importance he is a

CHEIF JUSTICE
CORPROTIST
republican
conservative
catholic

He won't let the overall legacy of the court be fuckered around with TOO much, but that does not mean he's gonna be on our side.
Citizens United, anyone?

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
38. "Trump and his base" and the Old White Male - who did you have in mind?
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:17 PM
Oct 2018

Am I suddenly on the wrong side? Well, I'm not.






Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
39. Just wondered if you meant Senate leadership, or someone in the WH, or....?
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:33 PM
Oct 2018

Some people say Bill Shine and Sean Hannity are the strategists advising the WH. Some say it's Giuliani. Some say Jared and family. Some say .... well, there are many possibilities. Trump himself too stupid, although canny. Could even be Putin. He asks Putin for advice sometimes.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
36. He chose Kavanaugh because he would literally lock Hillary up if given the chance.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 07:56 PM
Oct 2018

And you know Trump will attempt to go there.

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