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MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 12:44 PM Oct 2018

At the Gyro Store

We have a great Mediterranean deli three blocks away from our house. I'm addicted to their gyros, which are very traditional and affordable. I go in there often enough that the guys in the kitchen area know my order and start making my two gyros and an order of fries before I even get to the clerk at the register. I always have the same order, and I always tip the jar.

Anyhow, I went there yesterday evening. As usual, the clientele reflected the diversity of my neighborhood. As I stood behind a older black guy, waiting to place my order, one of the Hispanic cooks nodded to me to indicate that he saw me and was working on it.

But then, a 20-something white guy in a Minnesota Wild hockey jersey strode through the front door, marched right up to the counter and started saying what he wanted. Never mind the black guy already talking to the order taker. Never mind the 73-year-old bearded white guy waiting behind him to give his order and pay. Nope. The young white guy was in a hurry, see, and stepped up to the front of the line and just started ordering.

The older black guy looked at the kid and slightly shook his head. I said, speaking directly to the young guy, "Wait your turn, dude." He gave me a glaring look, as though he was about to read me off for even speaking to him. I gave him my best, cold, "Really?" glare.

Finally, Mr. Young Privileged White Guy stepped back and got in line. The older black guy threw me a nod. Anyhow, by the time I got to the register and paid for my order, the kitchen guys had my order up on the pass-through, so I took it and left. I got a nod from them, too.

And so life goes in the city. Dumbass Privileged White Kid!

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At the Gyro Store (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2018 OP
Don't be surprised if you get a phone call from his mother Snake Plissken Oct 2018 #1
Nah. He doesn't know me. MineralMan Oct 2018 #2
I bet his mother is driving around right now looking for you Snake Plissken Oct 2018 #3
His Mama can't save him from being an idiot. MineralMan Oct 2018 #4
What about the order taker? sdfernando Oct 2018 #5
I was wondering what a privileged white guy was doing in an ethnically diverse gyro take out in Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #6
She didn't. She's new there. She's a Hispanic woman MineralMan Oct 2018 #8
His Mama may be someone who gave him the notion that he IS privileged. llmart Oct 2018 #7
My father taught me to speak up in defense of others. MineralMan Oct 2018 #10
So did both of my parents. llmart Oct 2018 #12
You had good parents! MineralMan Oct 2018 #13
Or maybe his mother and father would be appalled at their sons behavior... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2018 #21
LOL! llmart Oct 2018 #25
Ken Osmond became a LA cop A HERETIC I AM Oct 2018 #35
OMG BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #32
If it was me that number would get taken down and given to the police 47of74 Oct 2018 #33
You should be kinder to the disabled, Mineral.... AZ8theist Oct 2018 #9
I know. I hope I didn't hurt his feelings or anything. MineralMan Oct 2018 #11
I hear you MM Ohiogal Oct 2018 #14
Older Trumpanzees are pretty rude and menacing dalton99a Oct 2018 #19
I shop at a store like that in Pittsburgh FakeNoose Oct 2018 #15
My gyro shop isn't that busy, really. MineralMan Oct 2018 #18
Sounds like a cool & great place FakeNoose Oct 2018 #22
Well, I'm glad it's nearby, for sure. MineralMan Oct 2018 #26
If I'm reading this correctly ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #16
I guess I did. Sorry... MineralMan Oct 2018 #17
Conjured up a fav movie scene... absyntheminded Oct 2018 #20
Well, that's taking it a bit too far, I'm thinking. MineralMan Oct 2018 #23
Mannerless white dude marieo1 Oct 2018 #24
Oh, they've always been around. MineralMan Oct 2018 #27
I saw that all the time at the new grocery store. kstewart33 Oct 2018 #28
That's interesting, and reflects my own experience. MineralMan Oct 2018 #29
all the 20 somethings are privileged these days. See it all the time. 7962 Oct 2018 #30
No. Not all of them, by any means. MineralMan Oct 2018 #31
Well of course not 100%. But I deal with them weekly & many can be a PAIN 7962 Oct 2018 #34

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
1. Don't be surprised if you get a phone call from his mother
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 12:49 PM
Oct 2018

demanding to know why you made her son wait in line like everyone else.

After he wakes up this afternoon and tells his parents about it.

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
2. Nah. He doesn't know me.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 12:52 PM
Oct 2018

I'm just a faceless old man who got there ahead of him. I hope he enjoyed his sandwich. Really I do.

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
4. His Mama can't save him from being an idiot.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:07 PM
Oct 2018

You know what gripes my ass even more, though? I'm privileged enough to be able to back the kid down and make him take his turn. The old black guy? He probably doesn't feel that privilege. That's wrong. I recognize the difference. I'm old, so I don't matter to that kid, unless I speak up and shame him back to the end of the line.

The black guy? He doesn't matter to that kid either, but probably would not do that. That's the difference. It shouldn't exist, but it does. We're both men, but we have different life experiences, based on unearned privileges. My privilege lets me speak out. His might not. We both understand the young privileged white guy, but I'm the one who can tell the kid to back off and do right.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. I was wondering what a privileged white guy was doing in an ethnically diverse gyro take out in
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:17 PM
Oct 2018

the first place?

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
8. She didn't. She's new there. She's a Hispanic woman
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:21 PM
Oct 2018

about 25 years old. What would she say? Nope. She has the least privilege in the room, see. She has waited on me before, and her command of English isn't that good. I speak Spanish to her when I'm there. It feels friendlier.

As soon as Mr. Young Privileged Whiteboy started talking, she looked away from the customer she was helping and was ready to take the kid's order. That's when I spoke up.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
7. His Mama may be someone who gave him the notion that he IS privileged.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:18 PM
Oct 2018

Or maybe his father or both.

Kudos to you for speaking up. Age sometimes does give us the courage to be more outspoken. I took the from the scenario exactly what you did - that the black guy would not feel comfortable speaking up.

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
10. My father taught me to speak up in defense of others.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:22 PM
Oct 2018

That's one of the important things I learned from him. So, I do. I also got the "cold look" from him. It hasn't failed me yet.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
12. So did both of my parents.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:27 PM
Oct 2018

I've lived my life like that. We were taught to stand up for what's right even if it is the most difficult thing you've ever done. And you know what? I taught my son and daughter that also. It is always so rewarding to me when I see what wonderful adults they both turned into. I can go to my grave being satisfied that I passed along moral principles to my children. I always felt as if there wasn't a thing that was more important for me to do than that.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
21. Or maybe his mother and father would be appalled at their sons behavior...
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:55 PM
Oct 2018

And smack him upside the head for being so rude

llmart

(15,540 posts)
25. LOL!
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 02:03 PM
Oct 2018

Maybe he's like Eddie Haskell on "Leave it to Beaver". There's always been the Eddie Haskells of the world.

P.S. I guess you have to be old enough to remember what Eddie Haskell represented on the show.

BumRushDaShow

(129,017 posts)
32. OMG
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 03:43 PM
Oct 2018

I am just seeing this post and am munching on some cheese and crackers and just spewed them on my keyboard!



 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
33. If it was me that number would get taken down and given to the police
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 03:47 PM
Oct 2018

With the demand that she be prosecuted for harassment to the fullest extent of the law.

Ohiogal

(32,000 posts)
14. I hear you MM
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:35 PM
Oct 2018

Your observations are all spot on. I'm glad you told that young buck to wait his turn. Me, as a woman, I probably wouldn't have the nerve to do that. He probably would have loudly told me to shut up and called me a word that rhymes with "itch".

Yesterday I went to the prescription counter at my grocery store to pick up a scrip. They funnel everyone into the same line with ropes, and the first person in the line gets waited on at two different stations at the counter. Like banks used to. Well, they have a big sign at the entrance to the rope lane "NO CARTS PLEASE". Aside from the fact that it was too big to be missed, anyone with half a brain would realize that if you took a cart in there with you, you'd be blocking access for the person behind you to get to the counter.

Well, there were these two MAGAt types there, and, of course, they brought their fully loaded and hard to maneuver cart into the roped off lanes. And when it was their turn to be waited on at the counter, the woman parked the cart smack dab in the middle of the two checkout stations at the pharmacy. I happened to be next, and the woman at the counter announced "I can help whoever is next". I made a dramatic effort to push that cart out of my way so I could get through, and got a long hard stare from the MAGAt woman. How dare I touch her cart! I just smiled sweetly and proceeded to make my way. The woman at the checkout rolled her eyes but said nothing. My son used to work at that store and they were always told by management NEVER to say anything back to a rude customer because that's "bad customer relations".

Anyway, I see this all the time. And, contrary to your experience, MM, I see it much more often involving older people. Do the older MAGAts think they have special privileges just because they are older? Now, I would gladly assist an older person who was having trouble physically if need be, or let one ahead of me in line if they were having trouble standing, etc., but these older "I'm old and I'll be rude if I want to" types really frost my flakes!

dalton99a

(81,505 posts)
19. Older Trumpanzees are pretty rude and menacing
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:50 PM
Oct 2018

There is ample evidence in social media of their deplorable behavior in stores, hospitals, airports

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
15. I shop at a store like that in Pittsburgh
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:37 PM
Oct 2018

Customers are a mixture of young, old, white, black, whatever race. It's a specialty bakery with a small counter and everybody has to wait their turn. So on a busy day (like a Saturday morning) there could easily be 10 or 12 people waiting and no discernible line because there's not enough room to queue up. Sometimes people wait outside until customers leave and there's more room inside the store.

The way this store handles the crowd - they have a little machine where everybody takes a number. The regular customers all do this, and there is never an unpleasant word. I've been shopping at this little bakery for over 10 years, but some of the customers have been coming their entire lives. That little "take a number" machine keeps everything friendly and manageable.

When a new customer walks in, they don't get how it works so they just walk up to the counter and try to be the first in line. That's when the store employees, or other regular customers, tell these new folks they have to take a number. Taking a number means you're last in line, because everybody else got numbers ahead of you. It's very democratic and I've never seen an argument over this.

Maybe you might want to suggest this to your friends.



MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
18. My gyro shop isn't that busy, really.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:45 PM
Oct 2018

The most I've seen in line ever was four. It's a pretty friendly place. Its trade all comes from the neighborhood, and I often see the same people in there when I go.

This was a very unusual thing to happen. Not at all like a normal visit to get my gyros.

They sell a lot of other food, too, but I'm a gyro guy. It's a Chicago-style place, so you can get your Chicago dog there, or a Polish sausage sandwich. They have wings, too, and even a fish and chips basket. But, I always order the same thing. The gyros are why I go there. Yum!

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
26. Well, I'm glad it's nearby, for sure.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 02:04 PM
Oct 2018

That's one of the best things about living in a city neighborhood. Generally, there are several decent places to eat close-by. My neighborhood has several within walking distance. There's even a really good Chinese place. It only has a couple of tables, so I use it as a takeout place. If you call in, you can drive over to it and the food's ready to pick up by the time you get there. Once you figure out what they do best, the food's great.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
16. If I'm reading this correctly
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:38 PM
Oct 2018
Never mind the 73-year-old bearded white guy waiting behind him to give his order and pay.


You menaced the poor little fella with your beard.

May I suggest for next time that you part your beard and place bells on either side. That is sure to make privileged white boys move their scrawny butts to the back of the line!

Kidding aside, good job!

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
17. I guess I did. Sorry...
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:40 PM
Oct 2018

I like the parted beard with bells idea, though. Right now, it's not long enough to do that, but soon it will be. I'll try that.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
24. Mannerless white dude
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 02:02 PM
Oct 2018

Oh, this is the glaring truth of life with DJT and the repugs in power. Way to go, mineral man!

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
27. Oh, they've always been around.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 02:05 PM
Oct 2018

They're just feeling all empowered and stuff right now. The trick is in recognizing which ones you can safely deal with. There are some I wouldn't try that with.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
28. I saw that all the time at the new grocery store.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 02:45 PM
Oct 2018

The store opened recently and is much closer to my home than the store I've used for over 20 years. The new store caters to a higher-income market segment. I noticed immediately a big change from my experience at my prior store. So many people were demanding and rude. The young woman at the cheese department and I got to talking and she said she was so tired of it all.

I went back to my old store. Working class and middle class clientele. Much nicer and I've never not once seen someone treat the store staff rudely. It's just fine here.

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
29. That's interesting, and reflects my own experience.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 03:03 PM
Oct 2018

There's an upscale supermarket about the same distance from my house as the supermarket I normally use. I go to the upscale one occasionally, but I find the people to be much ruder and less considerate of the employees there. So, I prefer the other market, generally. Just looking at the cars in the parking lots of the two stores makes it clear which one you're at. And if you see a Lexus parked at an angle, using up two spaces, just don't bother shopping in that store.

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
31. No. Not all of them, by any means.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 03:35 PM
Oct 2018

I know several who are engaged, active politically, and far from behaving as though they're privileged. And i don't know that many people in that age group. As a geezer, I just don't run into them as often as I used to.

I think you're overstating things.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
34. Well of course not 100%. But I deal with them weekly & many can be a PAIN
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:19 PM
Oct 2018

And I'm just one person, so its not universal.
One of my jobs is coordinating different work on real estate projects. Biggest problem is the younger ones and their lack of work ethic. Calling out for the lamest of reasons. And not just one trade, several of them. Skilled and unskilled work. And good paying (for where I live). 13-25.00 an hr. We've got guys in their 50s outworking these youngsters by a country mile. TWICE have had a PARENT come to complain to a supervisor about how their baby was being treated. And the guys were 24 & 26 yrs old. They were let go after that nonsense.
Our plumber started doing payroll on Saturdays because so many would call in after Friday night. Amazing how many will show up for Saturday work when theres a check waiting!!
I'm sure there are also some who work their asses off for their job or their cause, but my experience and others who do what I do shows an awfully "entitled" bunch.
But then I bet my dad said the same thing about MY age group too!!

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